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Hurricane Sandy Victims: 'We are living like animals'

 
El Tiburon

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if they put the powerlines underground, nobody would have lost power. Plus, they don't gotta cut down all the trees a long the roads. It's expensive to bury the powerlines though, so they don't do it. I don't know too much about it, maybe it's expensive because they don't have enough equipment to do it on a large scale.

I can't imagine though, it's less expensive when they have to replace all those transformers. Here the underground lines just have metal boxes on the ground, I've never seen anyone do maintenance on them in 20 years. They are built to last decades with virtually no maintenance.

Nobody strings fiber optic cables along telephone poles, why do it with power lines?
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A lot of the wiring was underground but these areas flooded and the wiring was destroyed.
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Sorry but you are WRONG!
Underground Power and data cables are pressurized...
This low pressure is applied at a constant rate to keep moisture out...
How do I know this?
Because I used to work for Ma Bell..

Air pressure for data cables and oil pressure for HV or high voltage cables.

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And YET so many of those in the worst affected areas managed to vote for Obama.

Unbelievable.
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You need to keep something in mind. Tropical weather may be very unpleasant and uncomfortable. But if you are wet and the temperatures drop into the teens and 20s you WILL freeze to death, plain and simple.

Stop comparing a few mosquitos and sweaty hot nights to being put into a freezer to die.

Get a grip. Like to see you survive a 10 degree night in a sleeping bag. LMAO.
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Very good point. However, many people die of heatstroke also, and it was African hot.
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lol, ^ this crap coming from a mexican??????? lololol you moron, israel ranks fourth in the world in scientific activity. israeli scientists have contributed to the advancement of agriculture, computer sciences, electronics, genetics, medicine, optics, solar energy and various fields of engineering. israel is home to major players in the high-tech industry and has one of the world's most technologically-literate populations.

so mex, other than drug cartels what has been your contribution to the world? skip along pedro, half of your population lives in the USA and receives benefits.
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It's still a parasite. And by extension, so are you..
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lolol, that's it? that is your best come back? do you need more time? i am very patient.

:acally:
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You already receive a huge guaranteed subsidy from the US taxpayer. What more do you want? Stop complaining...
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i am not complaining you made the accusation and got slapped down for it. now you are whining like a girl?
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I talked to someone whose working for national grid and is down there on long island.

The reason for the delay is that miles and miles of poles are down

Also the streets are clogged with rocks and debris. He said that even if he had a crew of 1,000 working 24/7, which they are it would take 1-2 months just to set up the poles, never mind putting the wires on them.

he said he turned down a street, putting poles up and they couldn't go any further, because someone's yacht had washed up in the middle of the street.

This is such an epic disaster, due to all the downed poles, the wiring, the entire grid.
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I talked to someone whose working for national grid and is down there on long island.

The reason for the delay is that miles and miles of poles are down

Also the streets are clogged with rocks and debris. He said that even if he had a crew of 1,000 working 24/7, which they are it would take 1-2 months just to set up the poles, never mind putting the wires on them.

he said he turned down a street, putting poles up and they couldn't go any further, because someone's yacht had washed up in the middle of the street.

This is such an epic disaster, due to all the downed poles, the wiring, the entire grid.
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yes that and the fact that lipa ran out of new poles. yea really they did. lol
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Another day with absolutely no plans to use calculus.

In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until after it graduates from medical school.

Goodbye sweet friend, we miss you.

Do you realize that in about forty years, we'll have millions of old ladies and old men running around with tattoos and piercings? Ew...
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Weird... Hurricane hit South Texas and it was back up and running in no time. Katrina fucked up Ole Miss, too, but it got back up in short order.

How come the democrats can't fix shit?
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New York is hated by most of the country.
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Especially the Confederate states!

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A few years back a big transformer blew in a storm in minus 36 here in BC. I was at the end of the line. It took 5 days for the power to be restored. The people in town got there's first and us rural property's were last.

We did not have all the destruction that area did and it still took 5 days. That area got ripped apart. I have seen the satelite footage of it. Its not going to get fixed in a blink on an eye. When you live in a high hazard danger zone sooner or later this stuff happens. You have to accept things for what they are or make a move out of harms way.

There is bound to be more of this over time as we go along here. People need to rethink where they live and not live. Make some changes. if it means starting over then you do just that. They still have their lives. Others lost theirs.

Not an easy situation.
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good post
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I live in the middle of long island. Some area have power lines under ground. Some older areas do not. I'd say about 25% is under ground. And people along the shore run the risk of flooding. That is known to anyone who lives in those areas. I agree that if they consider re building it really is their own fault. I do feel horrible what people are going through. It is surreal when it's in your own backyard literally. Welcome to 2012. I'm waiting on a meteor to crash land any minute
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And YET so many of those in the worst affected areas managed to vote for Obama.

Unbelievable.
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No, the ones adversely affected voted for Romney. Remember HAARP is accurate to within 10 feet. That'll teach their sorry asses for voting for that asshat.
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if they put the powerlines underground, nobody would have lost power. Plus, they don't gotta cut down all the trees a long the roads. It's expensive to bury the powerlines though, so they don't do it. I don't know too much about it, maybe it's expensive because they don't have enough equipment to do it on a large scale.

I can't imagine though, it's less expensive when they have to replace all those transformers. Here the underground lines just have metal boxes on the ground, I've never seen anyone do maintenance on them in 20 years. They are built to last decades with virtually no maintenance.

Nobody strings fiber optic cables along telephone poles, why do it with power lines?
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clappa
Plus it will put a lot of people back to work!
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It's still a parasite. And by extension, so are you..
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lolol, that's it? that is your best come back? do you need more time? i am very patient.

:acally:
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You already receive a huge guaranteed subsidy from the US taxpayer. What more do you want? Stop complaining...
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i am not complaining you made the accusation and got slapped down for it. now you are whining like a girl?
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What possible reason would you complain about for getting FREE billions? Continue to be a good patriotic Israeli, sucking up mo' money from Uncle Sammy...
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No, people who care for animals have feed put up for the winter. NY and NJ did nothing to prepare.

I find it hilarious that they would protest. Are they missing all common sense? What do they think they will accomplish? If they were protesting the Unions kicking out non union crews, I could understand it. But they weren't, they were protesting the government not taking care of them.

When true trouble comes, how many hundreds of millions will be dead in this country because they will expect to be cared for by people who never come???
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I talked to someone whose working for national grid and is down there on long island.

The reason for the delay is that miles and miles of poles are down

Also the streets are clogged with rocks and debris. He said that even if he had a crew of 1,000 working 24/7, which they are it would take 1-2 months just to set up the poles, never mind putting the wires on them.

he said he turned down a street, putting poles up and they couldn't go any further, because someone's yacht had washed up in the middle of the street.

This is such an epic disaster, due to all the downed poles, the wiring, the entire grid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13051740


yes that and the fact that lipa ran out of new poles. yea really they did. lol
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And that asshole Cuomo is bitching at them for not being prepared.

There is no utility that is prepared for an epic disaster like this. These guys working so hard to repair things, and Cuomo comes along and whacks them for not having done well enough.

The one whose performance was inadequate was Cuomo, and the more he tries to deflect the blams onto other scapegoats, the more blame he earns himself.

I hope we can throw out Cuomo in the next election. His performance is disgusting.
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What exactly is the fucking problem?
we on the Gulf Coast have went MONTHS and more without power...we didn't have ANYONE to BITCH AND MOAN TO...no fucking NYC powerboy.....no UNIONIZED whiney-bastards came here to help untangle THOUSANDS OF MILES OF LINES or chop up tree branches.
Ya think your shit smells better yankee?
LET OBAMA FIX IT FOR YOU.

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Thereis a government department to which we pay millions to help people like you, and that is all they do, help disaster victims. I hardly think your politicians didnot apply for and get the money. What do you suppose happened to your money?

Back in the old days Hollywood used to make movies about the corrupt, southern politicians that ran your government, and the corruption was so bad Hollywood started making comedies of it. Now nothing, and i think it was because they switched to the Mafia movies.
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And YET so many of those in the worst affected areas managed to vote for Obama.

Unbelievable.
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No, the ones adversely affected voted for Romney. Remember HAARP is accurate to within 10 feet. That'll teach their sorry asses for voting for that asshat.
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That's true of the Jersey shore. But I saw pictures from the Rockaways on Long Island, and the public housing residents there sure looked like Obama's kind of folks.
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i thought east coasters were the evolutionar gap between goriilas and homo sapiens already???
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I talked to someone whose working for national grid and is down there on long island.

The reason for the delay is that miles and miles of poles are down

Also the streets are clogged with rocks and debris. He said that even if he had a crew of 1,000 working 24/7, which they are it would take 1-2 months just to set up the poles, never mind putting the wires on them.

he said he turned down a street, putting poles up and they couldn't go any further, because someone's yacht had washed up in the middle of the street.

This is such an epic disaster, due to all the downed poles, the wiring, the entire grid.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13051740


yes that and the fact that lipa ran out of new poles. yea really they did. lol
 Quoting: davvi


And that asshole Cuomo is bitching at them for not being prepared.

There is no utility that is prepared for an epic disaster like this. These guys working so hard to repair things, and Cuomo comes along and whacks them for not having done well enough.

The one whose performance was inadequate was Cuomo, and the more he tries to deflect the blams onto other scapegoats, the more blame he earns himself.

I hope we can throw out Cuomo in the next election. His performance is disgusting.
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yea, i know. the louder he whines the more people think he is doing something, but like all politicians the only thing they do worry about is self-preservation and passing the blame to others. but he will be re-elected, we both know that.
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In Jewish tradition, the fetus is not considered viable until after it graduates from medical school.

Goodbye sweet friend, we miss you.

Do you realize that in about forty years, we'll have millions of old ladies and old men running around with tattoos and piercings? Ew...
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if they put the powerlines underground, nobody would have lost power. Plus, they don't gotta cut down all the trees a long the roads. It's expensive to bury the powerlines though, so they don't do it. I don't know too much about it, maybe it's expensive because they don't have enough equipment to do it on a large scale.

I can't imagine though, it's less expensive when they have to replace all those transformers. Here the underground lines just have metal boxes on the ground, I've never seen anyone do maintenance on them in 20 years. They are built to last decades with virtually no maintenance.

Nobody strings fiber optic cables along telephone poles, why do it with power lines?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27433840


A lot of the wiring was underground but these areas flooded and the wiring was destroyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25664589


Sorry but you are WRONG!
Underground Power and data cables are pressurized...
This low pressure is applied at a constant rate to keep moisture out...
How do I know this?
Because I used to work for Ma Bell..

Air pressure for data cables and oil pressure for HV or high voltage cables.
 Quoting: El Tiburon




Let me explain this before Facebook becomes a million people posting how all electric wires should be underground. Flooding can get into electric conduits underground, underground line blows up, melts inside conduit. Takes multiple crews digging up the street and redoing conduit to fix at a minimum. If an Overhead wire gets knocked down. One crew with a bucket truck can fix in a couple hours. And don't get me started with the reactive power implications of an entirely underground system......

This was taken from my cousin's husbands Facebook status, he works for Los Angeles power and water, I believe he is an engineer.
Also during hurricane Issac , I lost power for 5 days and the lines in my neighborhood are underground.
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The democrats elected Obama and now he is off playing golf.
He has four more years as emperor at the table and Michelle and the kids' vacations. Do you think he cares?

As he said before. campaign rhetoric is just words to get elected. There is never any intent to keep them. He knows if he told the truth he would not be elected.

He is genuinely surprised anyone would think he meant to keep any of them.

I hate to say it, but you guys are on your own. You are his "white" Katrina.

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if they put the powerlines underground, nobody would have lost power. Plus, they don't gotta cut down all the trees a long the roads. It's expensive to bury the powerlines though, so they don't do it. I don't know too much about it, maybe it's expensive because they don't have enough equipment to do it on a large scale.

I can't imagine though, it's less expensive when they have to replace all those transformers. Here the underground lines just have metal boxes on the ground, I've never seen anyone do maintenance on them in 20 years. They are built to last decades with virtually no maintenance.

Nobody strings fiber optic cables along telephone poles, why do it with power lines?
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You need to stop acting like you have any idea what you are talking about.

You have made people here stupider by subjecting them to your comment.

So please
stfu
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if they put the powerlines underground, nobody would have lost power. Plus, they don't gotta cut down all the trees a long the roads. It's expensive to bury the powerlines though, so they don't do it. I don't know too much about it, maybe it's expensive because they don't have enough equipment to do it on a large scale.

I can't imagine though, it's less expensive when they have to replace all those transformers. Here the underground lines just have metal boxes on the ground, I've never seen anyone do maintenance on them in 20 years. They are built to last decades with virtually no maintenance.

Nobody strings fiber optic cables along telephone poles, why do it with power lines?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27433840


A lot of the wiring was underground but these areas flooded and the wiring was destroyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25664589


Sorry but you are WRONG!
Underground Power and data cables are pressurized...
This low pressure is applied at a constant rate to keep moisture out...
How do I know this?
Because I used to work for Ma Bell..

Air pressure for data cables and oil pressure for HV or high voltage cables.
 Quoting: El Tiburon




Let me explain this before Facebook becomes a million people posting how all electric wires should be underground. Flooding can get into electric conduits underground, underground line blows up, melts inside conduit. Takes multiple crews digging up the street and redoing conduit to fix at a minimum. If an Overhead wire gets knocked down. One crew with a bucket truck can fix in a couple hours. And don't get me started with the reactive power implications of an entirely underground system......

This was taken from my cousin's husbands Facebook status, he works for Los Angeles power and water, I believe he is an engineer.
Also during hurricane Issac , I lost power for 5 days and the lines in my neighborhood are underground.
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In my small colonial city, in the downtown all transmission lines are underground,,,, In rainy season it floods continuously. They're strung inside plastic tubing and are unaffected.
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Red Cross pushes back on Sandy response, calls it 'near flawless'

[link to usnews.nbcnews.com]
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A lot of the wiring was underground but these areas flooded and the wiring was destroyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25664589


Sorry but you are WRONG!
Underground Power and data cables are pressurized...
This low pressure is applied at a constant rate to keep moisture out...
How do I know this?
Because I used to work for Ma Bell..

Air pressure for data cables and oil pressure for HV or high voltage cables.
 Quoting: El Tiburon




Let me explain this before Facebook becomes a million people posting how all electric wires should be underground. Flooding can get into electric conduits underground, underground line blows up, melts inside conduit. Takes multiple crews digging up the street and redoing conduit to fix at a minimum. If an Overhead wire gets knocked down. One crew with a bucket truck can fix in a couple hours. And don't get me started with the reactive power implications of an entirely underground system......

This was taken from my cousin's husbands Facebook status, he works for Los Angeles power and water, I believe he is an engineer.
Also during hurricane Issac , I lost power for 5 days and the lines in my neighborhood are underground.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17618635


In my small colonial city, in the downtown all transmission lines are underground,,,, In rainy season it floods continuously. They're strung inside plastic tubing and are unaffected.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624


I remember reading his post and being surprised. But then again I was surprised when my area ( outside New Orleans ) was w/o electricity for 5 days too, because of flooding. Just glad I was all stocked up.
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No, people who care for animals have feed put up for the winter. NY and NJ did nothing to prepare.

I find it hilarious that they would protest. Are they missing all common sense? What do they think they will accomplish? If they were protesting the Unions kicking out non union crews, I could understand it. But they weren't, they were protesting the government not taking care of them.

When true trouble comes, how many hundreds of millions will be dead in this country because they will expect to be cared for by people who never come???
 Quoting: samanthasunflower


I find the unions disgraceful. I live in NJ and am sickened beyond belief about anyplace in our state turning away workers. I am seriously considering selling and moving. Seems like the whole tri-state area could get worse. I voted for true hope, I voted for Romney. Knew most of my state was liberal, but wanted to run when Christie kissed osbama's ass and unions pulled this crap. Can't run yet - but planning an exit strategy - isn't easy and now who wants to buy in jersey? have a house at the shore and not getting handout - it is up to me if I repair/rebuild not sure if I will - direct neighbors might lose their houses - yikes - mantoloking just south is trashed - don't know how they will rebuild
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THIS IS MAKING ME ANGRY!!!!
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This was taken from my cousin's husbands Facebook status, he works for Los Angeles power and water, I believe he is an engineer.
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That's a comforting thought. That city's utility is notorious for not spending even chump change on upgrading their system. So LA is one of the biggest cities in the world with so many of its power lines strung on poles and kept overhead. Even minor winds and cars running into poles are known to disrupt service there.

Welcome to the third world.
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if they put the powerlines underground, nobody would have lost power. Plus, they don't gotta cut down all the trees a long the roads. It's expensive to bury the powerlines though, so they don't do it. I don't know too much about it, maybe it's expensive because they don't have enough equipment to do it on a large scale.

I can't imagine though, it's less expensive when they have to replace all those transformers. Here the underground lines just have metal boxes on the ground, I've never seen anyone do maintenance on them in 20 years. They are built to last decades with virtually no maintenance.

Nobody strings fiber optic cables along telephone poles, why do it with power lines?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27433840


A lot of the wiring was underground but these areas flooded and the wiring was destroyed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25664589


Sorry but you are WRONG!
Underground Power and data cables are pressurized...
This low pressure is applied at a constant rate to keep moisture out...
How do I know this?
Because I used to work for Ma Bell..

Air pressure for data cables and oil pressure for HV or high voltage cables.
 Quoting: El Tiburon


what crap.

we have underground power , they run it under floodplains and even rivers.
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Re: Hurricane Sandy Victims: 'We are living like animals'
Katrina all over again.
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Except that the racist liberal media is praising Obama for failing.
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Governor Christie did the smart thing by aligning with Obama and being out in front with the people and the damage. As the only Republican governor in the area, he knew he was the one the media would pick on otherwise.

News