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When I tell Christians I don't believe in Jesus, they say i am going to hell and then I tell them i want to go to hell!!!

 
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Eternal damnation means just that.
"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here!"
Doorsign over the gates of hell.

Seriously, if you are thrown into the
Lake of Fire, you will be eternally lost
and in torment forever.

NOBODY wants to go there.
But guess what, NOBODY HAS TO GO THERE!


Jesus Christ, the Word of God, God Almighty,
Creator of Heaven and Earth stepped off the
throne of Heaven, became flesh, and died in
YOUR PLACE, so that you would NOT HAVE to go
there.


That is how much God loves you, and how badly
He wants to keep EVERYONE out of that place
prepared for Lucifer and his demon angels.

It is YOUR CHOICE. Accept His death burial
and resurrection in your place,
or accept your punishment along with Satan.
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As to people that see "hell" in NDE's, dreams etc, this is from the power of their own imagination.

As to Heaven, most people on earth return the astral realms with death of the body and the astral realms are a place for those who have not earned 5d consciousness net, and are not heaven.

If by the time of passing from the body in the latest life time, one has reached 5- d consciousness one is resurrected on mansion world #1 on the 3rd day after death. This is of your soul and not the meat suit. You are provided a new body for the mansion worlds.

Until man controls his mind he must remain on this planet or similar planets, for the mind is so strong he can make a hell to see and a heaven to see.

There are higher worlds, that not like earth that are "heaven" but ones of earth are unaware of them, and of course this unawareness shows up as believing the bible lie of Thal.... sorry, don't have it next to me that talks of people rising to meat Jesus in the clouds. This is not rapture, nor is heaven the clouds.
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As to people that see "hell" in NDE's, dreams etc, this is from the power of their own imagination.

As to Heaven, most people on earth return the astral realms with death of the body and the astral realms are a place for those who have not earned 5d consciousness net, and are not heaven.

If by the time of passing from the body in the latest life time, one has reached 5- d consciousness one is resurrected on mansion world #1 on the 3rd day after death. This is of your soul and not the meat suit. You are provided a new body for the mansion worlds.

Until man controls his mind he must remain on this planet or similar planets, for the mind is so strong he can make a hell to see and a heaven to see.

There are higher worlds, that not like earth that are "heaven" but ones of earth are unaware of them, and of course this unawareness shows up as believing the bible lie of Thal.... sorry, don't have it next to me that talks of people rising to meat Jesus in the clouds. This is not rapture, nor is heaven the clouds.
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This question, will answer your question.

When you walked outside your door, do you see Japan?

If you don't, does this mean, that Japan does not exist?
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Do you think you're clever by ignoring my straightforward question and trying to deflect attention away from the fact that I presented you with the 'evidence' that you asked for? Please answer my question. Your posts on GLP wish to convince people that the only real NDE's of heaven all involve 'Jesus', and I presented you with a well respected case that didn't feature Jesus, so please tell me why you continue to disregard these cases that do not fit your agenda. Does Pam Reynolds, having experienced her NDE and having met her deceased family members, need to now turn to Christianity and accept 'Jesus Christ' as her lord and savior???

As I said from the beginning, you also fail to mention any of the NDE's in which the individuals experienced their 'life review' and were the judge of their own life experiences. Jesus wasn't judging them, 'God' wasn't judging them, they were doing the evaluating. Does this not fit into your agenda to scare people about 'hell' and try to convince them to embrace Christianity??? Does the evidence for reincarnation and people having lived multiple lives not fit into your agenda either? The fact that people could be incarnating multiple times doesn't fit too well with your black & white presentation of heaven or hell, does it?

As long as you continue to disregard the 'evidence' which does not support your agenda, I will continue to call you out on it. I don't personally care what you believe, but if you're going to attempt to 'educate' others and continue to intentionally disregard evidence which contradicts your one-sided presentation, I will speak up about it. You are trying to scare people into accepting your belief system, which is exactly what the churches have done for thousands of years. It's disturbing and one day you will hopefully find the awareness to understand why you should not be engaging in such behavior.
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How many times do I need to repeat myself regarding reincarnation.

I'm not ruling this out. There's a case of a Christian woman, who came across a tremendous amount of veridical information, proving her experience was not imagined.

This woman, stated, there's cases, in which if a person didn't fulfill his / her destiny, that they may return to another body.
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So why are you trying to scare people about 'HELL' if you understand that people can fuck up in one life time and redeem themselves in another???

And AGAIN, you are not being judged by a force external to you, so no one is 'sending' you anywhere. Please show me the 'evidence' where someone reviewed their life experiences and was then judged by a force or source external to their own consciousness? Once you can grasp this concept you will understand that the fate of your consciousness is not contingent on any particular religious belief system nor is it contingent on having accepted or not accepted a so called 'savior'.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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As to people that see "hell" in NDE's, dreams etc, this is from the power of their own imagination.
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This is false, for this reason.

There's cases now, of people being taken out of the body (e.g. in a NDE), and then learning of information about the deceased, that was previously unknown, but was then proven to be true down to the exact details.

This shows the experience was not imagined, and in this experience, hell was also confirmed to be real.
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As to people that see "hell" in NDE's, dreams etc, this is from the power of their own imagination.
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This is false, for this reason.

There's cases now, of people being taken out of the body (e.g. in a NDE), and then learning of information about the deceased, that was previously unknown, but was then proven to be true down to the exact details.

This shows the experience was not imagined, and in this experience, hell was also confirmed to be real.
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Demonic spirits know about information about the deceased, and so people can receive information from demonic spirits about what "was previously unknown, but was then proven to be true down to the exact details." Same thing that happens with the "channelers" who put people "in touch" with their dead departed. The fallen angels (demons) have been here throughout mankind, and so they know what the departed have experienced.
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Eternal damnation means just that.
"Abandon all hope, ye who enter here!"
Doorsign over the gates of hell.

Seriously, if you are thrown into the
Lake of Fire, you will be eternally lost
and in torment forever.

NOBODY wants to go there.
But guess what, NOBODY HAS TO GO THERE!


Jesus Christ, the Word of God, God Almighty,
Creator of Heaven and Earth stepped off the
throne of Heaven, became flesh, and died in
YOUR PLACE, so that you would NOT HAVE to go
there.


That is how much God loves you, and how badly
He wants to keep EVERYONE out of that place
prepared for Lucifer and his demon angels.

It is YOUR CHOICE. Accept His death burial
and resurrection in your place,
or accept your punishment along with Satan.
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this is all complete and total bullshit. Do you know the origin of the lake of fire story? it was the destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. Did you know that Abraham had nuclear weapons?

Sodom and Gomorrah were not destroyed by "god". They were destroyed by the people from Jehovah, a planet that orbits Alcyone. You can look up Alcyone. Now that place had usage of gas and oil as we do now, and then it was destroyed, the gas and oil went out on the water of the dead sea, and burned and that is the story of the Lake of Fire. YOu bible has much left out and you cannot have accurate understanding of ancient books that have become decrepit over time.

Now the souls of those ones that were destroyed, the story of Lot is more or less true, certain ones were ordered to leave that cities of sodom and gomorrah, by PEOPLE not angels. from Jehovah. And even your bible goes back and forth between calling them people, men, and angels of the Lord.

Anyway, I mucked my sentence above. The ones destroyed, their souls were destroyed by the plasma beams use to destroy those cities. I think the bible describes them to some degree but I can't remember. Plasma beams and NUCLEAR energy can destroy the soul, so certainly the souls there perished in that event. That event does mine mean there is an eternal hellfire. It is a legend that has become misunderstood. Those folks experienced thus the 2nd death, meaning the soul and of course if your soul is destroyed, you cannot ever exist again, its eternal.

NOW GROW UP and THINK.

The same people also helped moses and gave 20 commandments to him, using lasers to cut the plates.
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Re: When I tell Christians I don't believe in Jesus, they say i am going to hell and then I tell them i want to go to hell!!!
This question, will answer your question.

When you walked outside your door, do you see Japan?

If you don't, does this mean, that Japan does not exist?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


Do you think you're clever by ignoring my straightforward question and trying to deflect attention away from the fact that I presented you with the 'evidence' that you asked for? Please answer my question. Your posts on GLP wish to convince people that the only real NDE's of heaven all involve 'Jesus', and I presented you with a well respected case that didn't feature Jesus, so please tell me why you continue to disregard these cases that do not fit your agenda. Does Pam Reynolds, having experienced her NDE and having met her deceased family members, need to now turn to Christianity and accept 'Jesus Christ' as her lord and savior???

As I said from the beginning, you also fail to mention any of the NDE's in which the individuals experienced their 'life review' and were the judge of their own life experiences. Jesus wasn't judging them, 'God' wasn't judging them, they were doing the evaluating. Does this not fit into your agenda to scare people about 'hell' and try to convince them to embrace Christianity??? Does the evidence for reincarnation and people having lived multiple lives not fit into your agenda either? The fact that people could be incarnating multiple times doesn't fit too well with your black & white presentation of heaven or hell, does it?

As long as you continue to disregard the 'evidence' which does not support your agenda, I will continue to call you out on it. I don't personally care what you believe, but if you're going to attempt to 'educate' others and continue to intentionally disregard evidence which contradicts your one-sided presentation, I will speak up about it. You are trying to scare people into accepting your belief system, which is exactly what the churches have done for thousands of years. It's disturbing and one day you will hopefully find the awareness to understand why you should not be engaging in such behavior.
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How many times do I need to repeat myself regarding reincarnation.

I'm not ruling this out. There's a case of a Christian woman, who came across a tremendous amount of veridical information, proving her experience was not imagined.

This woman, stated, there's cases, in which if a person didn't fulfill his / her destiny, that they may return to another body.
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So why are you trying to scare people about 'HELL' if you understand that people can fuck up in one life time and redeem themselves in another???

And AGAIN, you are not being judged by a force external to you, so no one is 'sending' you anywhere. Please show me the 'evidence' where someone reviewed their life experiences and was then judged by a force or source external to their own consciousness? Once you can grasp this concept you will understand that the fate of your consciousness is not contingent on any particular religious belief system nor is it contingent on having accepted or not accepted a so called 'savior'.
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Read again and let me elaborate.

This woman, stated, there's cases [this doesn't apply to everyone], in which if a person didn't fulfill his / her destiny, that they may return to another body.

This does not mean that hell does not exist, this same woman, was also shown hell, and saw people being tormented there. Again, she was revealed a tremendous amount of veridical info, to show, this experience was not imagined.

Regarding the life review, the former college professor and atheist, from what he was stating, the judgement did come from his own consciousness. But this does not mean, that hell does not exist. Howard Storm in his NDE, was stating he was being led to hell, and the demonic entities were beginning to torture him, by ripping and biting into him.
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
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As to people that see "hell" in NDE's, dreams etc, this is from the power of their own imagination.
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This is false, for this reason.

There's cases now, of people being taken out of the body (e.g. in a NDE), and then learning of information about the deceased, that was previously unknown, but was then proven to be true down to the exact details.

This shows the experience was not imagined, and in this experience, hell was also confirmed to be real.
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Demonic spirits know about information about the deceased, and so people can receive information from demonic spirits about what "was previously unknown, but was then proven to be true down to the exact details." Same thing that happens with the "channelers" who put people "in touch" with their dead departed. The fallen angels (demons) have been here throughout mankind, and so they know what the departed have experienced.
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People who sees and experience hell, will almost always do the following:

1) Convert to Christianity

2) Become a much better person (e.g. one man stopped using drugs, and began helping people in his community, and also converted to Christianity).

3) If the Christian was back-slidden, they recommit their lives to Christ.

So why would demons, trick people into converting to Christianity, becoming a better person, and / or then recommitting their lives to Christ?
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ANHEDONIC I admire your work and doing great with them in this thread. I am away and not logged in tonight, don't want to leave the energy here on somebody's elses computer, but when I am home, I will send another green thumb you way. Candace/Nip/God Loves All.
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
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In the NDE cases, where information was learned about the deceased in heaven, and then proven to be true after research. This shows the experience was not imagined.

These people have confirmed seeing the crucifixion wounds of Jesus.

Also, Jesus himself stated:

Mathew 25:46 "And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
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In the NDE cases, where information was learned about the deceased in heaven, and then proven to be true after research. This shows the experience was not imagined.

These people have confirmed seeing the crucifixion wounds of Jesus.

Also, Jesus himself stated:

Mathew 25:46 "And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
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I did NOT say he had no wounds, I said he did NOT DIE, he was in a coma. I pointed out Doubting thomas even, that should have clarified it.

These bodies do not go to heaven, and to everyone here tonight that is working against the truth of OP and myself and others, you are basing your reasoning on LIES you have memorized.

Also, there were 4 people from the Planet Jehovah incanrate at that time. One of them was also nailed to the cross and pierced in the rib cage. Jesus was pierced in the THIGH. don't you see how stories get messed up over time and telling.

My goodness, people experiencing watching and being IN a car accident will tell different versions often of the same even. Why can you not consider your bible and also your modern day preachers are mucked up some? The book is not anywhere in it, authored by God the FAther. God the Father does not directly author any of man's books.
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
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That is some serious fresh babble. Never heard that one before. Hell is real. The devil is real. Heaven is real.
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8017901


In the NDE cases, where information was learned about the deceased in heaven, and then proven to be true after research. This shows the experience was not imagined.

These people have confirmed seeing the crucifixion wounds of Jesus.

Also, Jesus himself stated:

Mathew 25:46 "And they will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous will go into eternal life."
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I did NOT say he had no wounds, I said he did NOT DIE, he was in a coma. I pointed out Doubting thomas even, that should have clarified it.

These bodies do not go to heaven, and to everyone here tonight that is working against the truth of OP and myself and others, you are basing your reasoning on LIES you have memorized.

Also, there were 4 people from the Planet Jehovah incanrate at that time. One of them was also nailed to the cross and pierced in the rib cage. Jesus was pierced in the THIGH. don't you see how stories get messed up over time and telling.

My goodness, people experiencing watching and being IN a car accident will tell different versions often of the same even. Why can you not consider your bible and also your modern day preachers are mucked up some? The book is not anywhere in it, authored by God the FAther. God the Father does not directly author any of man's books.
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The NDEs, or in cases where God took the people out of the body, they learned of information about the deceased in a heavenly location, that was previously unknown, but again, was researched to be true down to the exact details. Showing this experience was not imagined.

Anyways, when they saw the crucifixion wounds, it was not at the thighs. It was at the hands and feet.
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
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That is some serious fresh babble. Never heard that one before. Hell is real. The devil is real. Heaven is real.
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lol, probably partly based off the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. That stated, Jesus was never crucified.
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jeus H christ, He had wounds of the hands and feet. I am not denying that, but not the chest. He himself Knows and has covered this since his return. YOu ones will not read the corrected information that has been given.

There is NO HELL. and Jesus taught that heaven was WHERE? Within YOU. There are advanced CUSTOM BUILT WORLDS that are heaven. Our astral realms are NOT. I susgest you go back and read my teaching in this thread, the little blue up arrow will take you ones to them. They are the truth. the facts , the what is.

even People in NDEs see hell people if they want to see hell. ditto "heaven" . Jesus is not risiding in the astral. He is returned and on a craft, so they are probably seeing also what they want to see at least some of the time. His body is buried in srinagar Kasmir. These do not go to heaven, but these things ARe record in the akashic records which some people also see then, the books of earth. There were two hung on the cross, Jesus was one, and then this other, and the other was a great soul here also and stories get confused. Another confused as Jesus went to Japan, so in Japan they think Jesus visited there. OK. The 4th didn't make any waves, so there was no confusion. God did not become his self as thus his "son". It doesn't work that way, to those making that statement.

What you are required to do to get to the higher realms is grow your soul and wisdom and your heart. It is done no other way. And your growth into wisdom around that bible, is yet to begin for most of you, for it is not wisdom and he has lots of stories that may be true but not understood and man deliberate changes in it.

There were no Jews for example. Not a single one then. The Khazars from MONGOLIA created that world for themselves in order to steal Israel and put it in the bible, plus other lies about Israel, so you ones would support the very antichirst plants on this world and you do.

Your preaching hell fire will be on your akashic record until you remove it by learning truth.
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
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That is some serious fresh babble. Never heard that one before. Hell is real. The devil is real. Heaven is real.
 Quoting: Borian


lol, probably partly based off the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. That stated, Jesus was never crucified.
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The Gospel of Thomas is a found book, and it is wrong.
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jeus H christ, He had wounds of the hands and feet. I am not denying that, but not the chest. He himself Knows and has covered this since his return. YOu ones will not read the corrected information that has been given.

There is NO HELL. and Jesus taught that heaven was WHERE? Within YOU. There are advanced CUSTOM BUILT WORLDS that are heaven. Our astral realms are NOT. I susgest you go back and read my teaching in this thread, the little blue up arrow will take you ones to them. They are the truth. the facts , the what is.

even People in NDEs see hell people if they want to see hell. ditto "heaven" . Jesus is not risiding in the astral. He is returned and on a craft, so they are probably seeing also what they want to see at least some of the time. His body is buried in srinagar Kasmir. These do not go to heaven, but these things ARe record in the akashic records which some people also see then, the books of earth. There were two hung on the cross, Jesus was one, and then this other, and the other was a great soul here also and stories get confused. Another confused as Jesus went to Japan, so in Japan they think Jesus visited there. OK. The 4th didn't make any waves, so there was no confusion. God did not become his self as thus his "son". It doesn't work that way, to those making that statement.

What you are required to do to get to the higher realms is grow your soul and wisdom and your heart. It is done no other way. And your growth into wisdom around that bible, is yet to begin for most of you, for it is not wisdom and he has lots of stories that may be true but not understood and man deliberate changes in it.

There were no Jews for example. Not a single one then. The Khazars from MONGOLIA created that world for themselves in order to steal Israel and put it in the bible, plus other lies about Israel, so you ones would support the very antichirst plants on this world and you do.

Your preaching hell fire will be on your akashic record until you remove it by learning truth.
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Veridical info, shows that the experience was not merely imagined and / or based on the person's expectations.

There's two accounts, I can think of right off hand, in which the person felt like they were overall good people, but both still saw and didn't expect to see hell, in their NDE.

This proves your assumption:

even People in NDEs see hell people if they want to see hell. ditto "heaven"

is false.
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'going to hell' is the end (John 3:16)
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and to the above person, Jesus did not die on the cross, even your bible tells you that!!!!!! He was in a coma, his family and friends and apostles knew he would not be allowed body death on the cross. He later met them and that story is reasonably true of the doubting thomas etc, and he ascended into a CRAFT and went to Damascus. AFter confronting Saul, who never became his apostle, he was a confused man, he and Judas and others went on eventuarlly to India and he settled IN kashmir and his body is buried there, he died at about 115 years of age.

This is fact. Jesus never taught hell, it does not exist. If it did, it would be in nature. Some people sure have hellish minds though. It was desired that he was thought dead, so ones there would not pursue him

Now again grow up and use your reasoning mind and stop believing BS fairy tales the antichrist ones created for you.
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That is some serious fresh babble. Never heard that one before. Hell is real. The devil is real. Heaven is real.
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lol, probably partly based off the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. That stated, Jesus was never crucified.
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The Gospel of Thomas is a found book, and it is wrong.
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Based on my research, and all evidence I came across, I agree.
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That is some serious fresh babble. Never heard that one before. Hell is real. The devil is real. Heaven is real.
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lol, probably partly based off the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. That stated, Jesus was never crucified.
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The Gospel of Thomas is a found book, and it is wrong.
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Based on my research, and all evidence I came across, I agree.
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It was predicted a few years back, and now here it it. False teachings are just that.
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Do you think you're clever by ignoring my straightforward question and trying to deflect attention away from the fact that I presented you with the 'evidence' that you asked for? Please answer my question. Your posts on GLP wish to convince people that the only real NDE's of heaven all involve 'Jesus', and I presented you with a well respected case that didn't feature Jesus, so please tell me why you continue to disregard these cases that do not fit your agenda. Does Pam Reynolds, having experienced her NDE and having met her deceased family members, need to now turn to Christianity and accept 'Jesus Christ' as her lord and savior???

As I said from the beginning, you also fail to mention any of the NDE's in which the individuals experienced their 'life review' and were the judge of their own life experiences. Jesus wasn't judging them, 'God' wasn't judging them, they were doing the evaluating. Does this not fit into your agenda to scare people about 'hell' and try to convince them to embrace Christianity??? Does the evidence for reincarnation and people having lived multiple lives not fit into your agenda either? The fact that people could be incarnating multiple times doesn't fit too well with your black & white presentation of heaven or hell, does it?

As long as you continue to disregard the 'evidence' which does not support your agenda, I will continue to call you out on it. I don't personally care what you believe, but if you're going to attempt to 'educate' others and continue to intentionally disregard evidence which contradicts your one-sided presentation, I will speak up about it. You are trying to scare people into accepting your belief system, which is exactly what the churches have done for thousands of years. It's disturbing and one day you will hopefully find the awareness to understand why you should not be engaging in such behavior.
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How many times do I need to repeat myself regarding reincarnation.

I'm not ruling this out. There's a case of a Christian woman, who came across a tremendous amount of veridical information, proving her experience was not imagined.

This woman, stated, there's cases, in which if a person didn't fulfill his / her destiny, that they may return to another body.
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So why are you trying to scare people about 'HELL' if you understand that people can fuck up in one life time and redeem themselves in another???

And AGAIN, you are not being judged by a force external to you, so no one is 'sending' you anywhere. Please show me the 'evidence' where someone reviewed their life experiences and was then judged by a force or source external to their own consciousness? Once you can grasp this concept you will understand that the fate of your consciousness is not contingent on any particular religious belief system nor is it contingent on having accepted or not accepted a so called 'savior'.
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Read again and let me elaborate.

This woman, stated, there's cases [this doesn't apply to everyone], in which if a person didn't fulfill his / her destiny, that they may return to another body.

This does not mean that hell does not exist, this same woman, was also shown hell, and saw people being tormented there. Again, she was revealed a tremendous amount of veridical info, to show, this experience was not imagined.

Regarding the life review, the former college professor and atheist, from what he was stating, the judgement did come from his own consciousness. But this does not mean, that hell does not exist. Howard Storm in his NDE, was stating he was being led to hell, and the demonic entities were beginning to torture him, by ripping and biting into him.
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So if you understand that the judgement comes from one's own consciousness, how do you get to 'hell'???

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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lol, probably partly based off the Gnostic Gospel of Thomas. That stated, Jesus was never crucified.
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The Gospel of Thomas is a found book, and it is wrong.
 Quoting: Borian


Based on my research, and all evidence I came across, I agree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


It was predicted a few years back, and now here it it. False teachings are just that.
 Quoting: Borian


Too bad people don't recognize the other false teachings they are immersed in.

"You will not be punished for your anger, you will be punished by your anger"
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How many times do I need to repeat myself regarding reincarnation.

I'm not ruling this out. There's a case of a Christian woman, who came across a tremendous amount of veridical information, proving her experience was not imagined.

This woman, stated, there's cases, in which if a person didn't fulfill his / her destiny, that they may return to another body.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


So why are you trying to scare people about 'HELL' if you understand that people can fuck up in one life time and redeem themselves in another???

And AGAIN, you are not being judged by a force external to you, so no one is 'sending' you anywhere. Please show me the 'evidence' where someone reviewed their life experiences and was then judged by a force or source external to their own consciousness? Once you can grasp this concept you will understand that the fate of your consciousness is not contingent on any particular religious belief system nor is it contingent on having accepted or not accepted a so called 'savior'.
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Read again and let me elaborate.

This woman, stated, there's cases [this doesn't apply to everyone], in which if a person didn't fulfill his / her destiny, that they may return to another body.

This does not mean that hell does not exist, this same woman, was also shown hell, and saw people being tormented there. Again, she was revealed a tremendous amount of veridical info, to show, this experience was not imagined.

Regarding the life review, the former college professor and atheist, from what he was stating, the judgement did come from his own consciousness. But this does not mean, that hell does not exist. Howard Storm in his NDE, was stating he was being led to hell, and the demonic entities were beginning to torture him, by ripping and biting into him.
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So if you understand that the judgement comes from one's own consciousness, how do you get to 'hell'???
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A person's own judgement, is different from God's judgement.
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The Gospel of Thomas is a found book, and it is wrong.
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Based on my research, and all evidence I came across, I agree.
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It was predicted a few years back, and now here it it. False teachings are just that.
 Quoting: Borian


Too bad people don't recognize the other false teachings they are immersed in.
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Nice ad hominem attack. People who lose an argument, resort to this childish tactic.
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Based on my research, and all evidence I came across, I agree.
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It was predicted a few years back, and now here it it. False teachings are just that.
 Quoting: Borian


Too bad people don't recognize the other false teachings they are immersed in.
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Nice ad hominem attack. People who lose an argument, resort to this childish tactic.
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The Gospel of Thomas is a found book, and it is wrong.
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Based on my research, and all evidence I came across, I agree.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


It was predicted a few years back, and now here it it. False teachings are just that.
 Quoting: Borian


Too bad people don't recognize the other false teachings they are immersed in.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


People will be people. They seem to love the dramatic, so here it is. Base it on a core. really.
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Based on my research, and all evidence I came across, I agree.
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It was predicted a few years back, and now here it it. False teachings are just that.
 Quoting: Borian


Too bad people don't recognize the other false teachings they are immersed in.
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Nice ad hominem attack. People who lose an argument, resort to this childish tactic.
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Sorry about this comment. Getting tired, and thought you made this comment about another comment.

I do apologize.

I do enjoy your questions. Your bring up good questions.
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A person's own judgement, is different from God's judgement.
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Why would a person conduct their own life review if ultimately it's up to 'God's judgement'? You don't see the contradiction in this? You pray to a 'God' that sentences people to eternal punishment in 'hell' for making mistakes in a single lifetime?

Where is your 'evidence' that 'God' does this to people?

Last Edited by ANHEDONIC on 11/11/2012 10:40 PM

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