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Message Subject When I tell Christians I don't believe in Jesus, they say i am going to hell and then I tell them i want to go to hell!!!
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Why would a person conduct their own life review if ultimately it's up to 'God's judgement'? You don't see the contradiction in this? You pray to a 'God' that sentences people to eternal punishment in 'hell' for making mistakes in a single lifetime? Wow what a loving 'God'.

Where is your 'evidence' that 'God' does this to people?
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


This is only speculation. Because I amdit don't know for certain.

Let's say a boss is about to fire, or promote you.

He may show you things you did right / wrong [life review].

As you're boss is showing / telling you this, your conscious may then feel good / bad about this [self-judgement]. However, this doesn't mean, the boss isn't also judging you at the same time, but you don't know your boss's feelings / decision / judgment about you.

This could also be used, as a warning / caution. For example, when Howard Storm, was given his life review. He saw scenes of things he did both right and wrong. From this, he learned from the experience / life-review, and then corrected the bad choices he made in the past.

Hell is not an easy concept for me to come to terms with. However, as already stated, some of the strongest and best NDE cases, where veridical is obtained from deceased family members, confirms the existence of hell.

These cases are even stronger, in my opinion, than Pam's case, in which veridical was not obtained about the deceased but rather limited to her surroundings.

There's a good NDE by a lawyer, Nanci Danison (she's a non-Christian and wrote 'Backwards: returning to our source for answers'. From what she found, the realm was influenced by her thoughts. For example, as she thought of a pasture, a pasture then appeared.

This is why, I believe the veridical info about the deceased in the NDE is so important. This helps rule out, that the experience was not merely based on beliefs / expectations.

Not only this, but other areas of study, such as Demonology confirms hell. Again, I use the same high criteria (veridical info), when examining legit possessions, to rule out the person isn't merely suffering from a mental illness. In these legit cases, hell is further confirmed.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


What I am trying to convey to you is that 'heaven' and 'hell' are not specific places/locations, they are generalized terms for states of consciousness. Please reference this post of mine for a detailed explanation of what I mean by this:

Thread: REVERSED KUNDALINI (Page 4)
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


After examining multiple cases, I say it's indeed a specific location, due to highly unique details, that all people are seeing.

For example, when many saw hell in their NDEs, and oftentimes also seeing demons tormenting people. They all stated, they smelled a foul sulfur stench.

In addition, from my study of demonology, exorcists and even paranormal investigators, state that demons smelled like sulfur.

The Bible speaks of a lake of fire burning with sulfur, and people would be tormented with sulfur.

A lady after her suicide attempt, stated she was taken to hell. As she felt the fires of hell, she stated if felt like burning sulfuric acid.

When many seen heaven, including some of the very best and strongest NDE cases, where veridical info is obtained, they stated, the flowers were singing. And many added, the flowers were singing praises to God.

From all these elements aligning perfectly and people seeing the same thing, is statistically beyond chance. And is strong evidence that this is an actual location.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27527707


Let me also add, two of the very best cases, that contained a lot of veridical about the deceased. In these two cases (although there's even more than than these two), both saw the four living creatures around God, as described in no other religion or book, except the the Bible, and in the book of Ezekial.
 
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