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if there were no police forces...

 
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11/11/2012 05:03 PM
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if there were no police forces...
barbarian savages would try to kill you, rape your wife, and seize your property and possessions.

in a police free state, shit would soon become like Mad Max.

would you prefer the protection of police / armed forces or would you prefer to defend yourself, family and property?

i think the latter option would eventually prove futile.

i know things could be better, but if we didn't pay taxes for police protection we'd be living in mogadishu-style conditions 24/7.

how bad that would be.
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11/11/2012 05:11 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
You are a friggin moron and a dumbass. Do you have any idea how long it takes around here for the cops to show up? They only time they're around is when you don't want em to be. Go buy another regulated baseball bat and let your Gestapo control you.
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11/11/2012 05:12 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
Come to my home town

Last 3times I had to call cops they never even showed up

I guess I have enough documentation that I can defend myself

Cops here are not like our patriot soldiers.

There IS a difference
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11/11/2012 05:15 PM

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Re: if there were no police forces...
But at least my dog would be alive and grandma wouldn't be tazed.
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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11/11/2012 05:19 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
yeh, folks, i know police can take time to respond (at times) but imagine how savage people would become in a lawless world. it would be like a perpetual zombie apocalypse, and you'd never have no rest for fending off waves of thugs.
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11/11/2012 05:19 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
If there were no cops, the people would do what they did before there were cops, protect themselves.
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11/11/2012 05:30 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
barbarian savages would try to kill you, rape your wife, and seize your property and possessions.

in a police free state, shit would soon become like Mad Max.

would you prefer the protection of police / armed forces or would you prefer to defend yourself, family and property?

i think the latter option would eventually prove futile.

i know things could be better, but if we didn't pay taxes for police protection we'd be living in mogadishu-style conditions 24/7.

how bad that would be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8415020



You DO realize how full of shit your premise and fallout is right?

Do you know how many successful bank robberies there were in the "Wild" west which had little to no government or law men?

Before 1900 there were no successful bank robberies in any of the major towns in Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas, Kansas, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Utah, or New Mexico with only a PAIR of them in California and Arizona.

Remember Dodge City? The one that was SOOOOOO violent? It's most violent year was 1878 where there were *GASP* FIVE murders.

Compare that today to our small towns and today we're far more violent WITH a police force than we ever were without one.

For a bit more information...

...by the late nineteenth
century, “the homicide rate for adult relatives was 0.3 to 0.6 per 100,000 adults per year
in the rural North, 0.4 to 1.8 per 100,000 in the rural South, 0.8 per 100,000 in rural
California, and 0.6 to 1 per 100,000 in northern, southern, and southwestern cities.” - viii. Roth, p. 290

In todays modern age with all the lack of morality and ethics and a percentage of the populace who knows nothing but "getting their's by any means necessary"... yeah, you'd have those problems in certain areas for a little while maybe. But the suggestion that if we didn't pay taxes for the police to keep us safe is complete bullshit. I don't even want to look it up because I KNOW it's worse than Afghanistan but go ahead and look up Detroit or Chicago's crime rates and see how well that tax for safety thing really works.

Americans have always protected themselves and their neighbors until rather recently (last half to full century)and have a much better response time and rate of lives saved than any police force.

The latter option guarantees your safety while the former ensures your slavery.

rant
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11/11/2012 05:42 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
barbarian savages would try to kill you, rape your wife, and seize your property and possessions.

in a police free state, shit would soon become like Mad Max.

would you prefer the protection of police / armed forces or would you prefer to defend yourself, family and property?

i think the latter option would eventually prove futile.

i know things could be better, but if we didn't pay taxes for police protection we'd be living in mogadishu-style conditions 24/7.

how bad that would be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8415020



You DO realize how full of shit your premise and fallout is right?

Do you know how many successful bank robberies there were in the "Wild" west which had little to no government or law men?

Before 1900 there were no successful bank robberies in any of the major towns in Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas, Kansas, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Utah, or New Mexico with only a PAIR of them in California and Arizona.

Remember Dodge City? The one that was SOOOOOO violent? It's most violent year was 1878 where there were *GASP* FIVE murders.

Compare that today to our small towns and today we're far more violent WITH a police force than we ever were without one.

For a bit more information...

...by the late nineteenth
century, “the homicide rate for adult relatives was 0.3 to 0.6 per 100,000 adults per year
in the rural North, 0.4 to 1.8 per 100,000 in the rural South, 0.8 per 100,000 in rural
California, and 0.6 to 1 per 100,000 in northern, southern, and southwestern cities.” - viii. Roth, p. 290

In todays modern age with all the lack of morality and ethics and a percentage of the populace who knows nothing but "getting their's by any means necessary"... yeah, you'd have those problems in certain areas for a little while maybe. But the suggestion that if we didn't pay taxes for the police to keep us safe is complete bullshit. I don't even want to look it up because I KNOW it's worse than Afghanistan but go ahead and look up Detroit or Chicago's crime rates and see how well that tax for safety thing really works.

Americans have always protected themselves and their neighbors until rather recently (last half to full century)and have a much better response time and rate of lives saved than any police force.

The latter option guarantees your safety while the former ensures your slavery.

rant
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interesting post popcorn
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11/16/2014 07:44 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
True story

As a young teenager in proudly peaceable Canada during the romantic 1960s, I was a true believer in Bakunin's anarchism. I laughed off my parents' argument that if the government ever laid down its arms all hell would break loose. Our competing predictions were put to the test at 8:00 A.M. on October 17, 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike. By 11:20 A.M. the first bank was robbed. By noon most downtown stores had closed because of looting. Within a few more hours, taxi drivers burned down the garage of a limousine service that competed with them for airport customers, a rooftop sniper killed a provincial police officer, rioters broke into several hotels and restaurants, and a doctor slew a burglar in his suburban home. By the end of the day, six banks had been robbed, a hundred shops had been looted, twelve fires had been set, forty carloads of storefront glass had been broken, and three million dollars in property damage had been inflicted, before city authorities had to call in the army and, of course, the Mounties to restore order.

If you think that it wouldnt be chaos, youre pretty naive. Things cant be compared to the past because so much has changed since the times of the "wild west." there so much more to crime than just stealing money and peoples horses. people would be shot in the super market for taking the last box of cereal. people aren't nearly as rational as they used to be especially with the wide spread use of heavy drugs.
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11/16/2014 08:16 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
barbarian savages would try to kill you, rape your wife, and seize your property and possessions.

in a police free state, shit would soon become like Mad Max.

would you prefer the protection of police / armed forces or would you prefer to defend yourself, family and property?

i think the latter option would eventually prove futile.

i know things could be better, but if we didn't pay taxes for police protection we'd be living in mogadishu-style conditions 24/7.

how bad that would be.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8415020



You DO realize how full of shit your premise and fallout is right?

Do you know how many successful bank robberies there were in the "Wild" west which had little to no government or law men?

Before 1900 there were no successful bank robberies in any of the major towns in Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, the Dakotas, Kansas, Nebraska, Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Nevada, Utah, or New Mexico with only a PAIR of them in California and Arizona.

Remember Dodge City? The one that was SOOOOOO violent? It's most violent year was 1878 where there were *GASP* FIVE murders.

Compare that today to our small towns and today we're far more violent WITH a police force than we ever were without one.

For a bit more information...

...by the late nineteenth
century, “the homicide rate for adult relatives was 0.3 to 0.6 per 100,000 adults per year
in the rural North, 0.4 to 1.8 per 100,000 in the rural South, 0.8 per 100,000 in rural
California, and 0.6 to 1 per 100,000 in northern, southern, and southwestern cities.” - viii. Roth, p. 290

In todays modern age with all the lack of morality and ethics and a percentage of the populace who knows nothing but "getting their's by any means necessary"... yeah, you'd have those problems in certain areas for a little while maybe. But the suggestion that if we didn't pay taxes for the police to keep us safe is complete bullshit. I don't even want to look it up because I KNOW it's worse than Afghanistan but go ahead and look up Detroit or Chicago's crime rates and see how well that tax for safety thing really works.

Americans have always protected themselves and their neighbors until rather recently (last half to full century)and have a much better response time and rate of lives saved than any police force.

The latter option guarantees your safety while the former ensures your slavery.

rant
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interesting post popcorn
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8415020


hesright
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11/16/2014 08:25 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
Says the un-armed SUBJECT of the Crown.
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11/16/2014 08:31 PM

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Re: if there were no police forces...
I prefer not to live in a police state.
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11/16/2014 08:37 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
yeh, folks, i know police can take time to respond (at times) but imagine how savage people would become in a lawless world. it would be like a perpetual zombie apocalypse, and you'd never have no rest for fending off waves of thugs.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 8415020


Ah yes, but without police the savages would be eliminated from the gene pool within a few months so you would only be fending off waves of thugs for a while.
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11/16/2014 09:00 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
It wouldn't make a nickel's worth of difference if all police were abolished other than making things freer and less repressive.
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11/16/2014 09:26 PM
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If there were no cops, the people would do what they did before there were cops, protect themselves.
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Yep.
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11/16/2014 09:36 PM
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Re: if there were no police forces...
that's just not true...

...criminals would still get what they've got coming to them...just a lot less paperwork.

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