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Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.

 
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Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
"Individuals in families characterized by longevity tend to have low levels of 25(OH) vitamin D, Dutch researchers found.

Offspring of parents who lived into their 90s had significantly lower levels of 25(OH) vitamin D compared with controls (64.3 nmol/L versus 68.5 nmol/L, P=0.002), according to Diana van Heemst, PhD, of Leiden University Medical Center in the Netherlands, and colleagues."

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I don't believe this for one second. Ive seen plenty of studies proving otherwise. Wonder who paid this "researcher" off to publish garbage
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Probably the same researchers that claimed plutonium is good for you.
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Plutonium is good for you. When Fukashima happened I was outside every day taking big breathes in for my health
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Yes , researchers also say that organic food is not better than gmo food!
I guess the medical industry is loosing too much money now that vitamin D3 is getting popular!
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Ive been taking Vitamin/Hormone D3 for a year and a half and I truly believe in its weight loss properties but hey thats just me. 10,000 UI a day and im feeling great
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someone gave you 1 star, ill give you 5!
Good find op!
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all right! I was just told by my Dr. last week that my vitamin D is really low. Just started an 8 week course of supplements.
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All cancer patients have ONE thing in common...they are vitamin D deficient.
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Ive been taking Vitamin/Hormone D3 for a year and a half and I truly believe in its weight loss properties but hey thats just me. 10,000 UI a day and im feeling great
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I take 25000 UI once a week and it works!
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Ive been taking Vitamin/Hormone D3 for a year and a half and I truly believe in its weight loss properties but hey thats just me. 10,000 UI a day and im feeling great
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Good lord that seems a bit much. Can you jump over a four story building yet?
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
"Individuals in families characterized by longevity tend to have low levels of 25(OH) vitamin D, Dutch researchers found.

Offspring of parents who lived into their 90s had significantly lower levels of 25(OH) vitamin D compared with controls (64.3 nmol/L versus 68.5 nmol/L, P=0.002), according to Diana van Heemst, PhD, of Leiden University Medical Center in the Netherlands, and colleagues."

[link to www.medpagetoday.com]



I don't believe this for one second. Ive seen plenty of studies proving otherwise. Wonder who paid this "researcher" off to publish garbage
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Yeah, this is an absolute crock... I have personally had low vitamin d levels in the past, and felt absolutely horrid until I got my levels back up. There's too much info, and too many studies out there that suggest the very opposite of this "research".
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
10,000 IU a day for LIFE
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10,000 IU a day for LIFE
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10,000 is too high. 5000 to maybe 8000 max. Vitamin D supplements accumulate in your body. You should take 5k and try to get some sun on top of it or go tanning.

My dog ate a bottle of my Vit D liquigels and almost died. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.
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raw milk is rich in vitamin d
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Since I started taking 5,000 IU's of vitamin D3 every day, I haven't been sick...not once...for nearly 4 years straight!

When research is funded by pharmaceutical companies, then it can't be trusted.
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10,000 IU a day for LIFE
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10,000 is too high. 5000 to maybe 8000 max. Vitamin D supplements accumulate in your body. You should take 5k and try to get some sun on top of it or go tanning.

My dog ate a bottle of my Vit D liquigels and almost died. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.
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This correlates with what I am finding. Vitamin D3 is great stuff and probably one of the most helpful supplements you can take (magnesium is, too). But do be careful with large amounts.

Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin meaning that it does accumulate in your body, unlike a water soluble vitamin such as B-12 which lasts less than week or so.

2,000 or 3,000 is plenty for most people with perhaps 5,000 in winter with less sunlight,

The only times I've heard of 10,000 + being advised is if you are really sick or starting to come down with the flu.

Research symptoms of Vit D3 overdose and cut back if you begin to experience any.

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Research obviously meant to reverse previous research on the benefits of Vitamin D for the purposes of population control.
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Ive been taking Vitamin/Hormone D3 for a year and a half and I truly believe in its weight loss properties but hey thats just me. 10,000 UI a day and im feeling great
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Good lord that seems a bit much. Can you jump over a four story building yet?
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thats not a lot
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
"Offspring of parents who lived into their 90s had significantly lower levels of 25(OH) vitamin D"

Huh?

The parents lived into their 90s...

Life was very different for people who have already lived into their 90s.
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
The study seems to lean a certain way seen as its twisting the levels around, its saying that 64.3 nmol/L is low and thats rather high seen as there are so many people out there with levels of vitamin D levels of around 19 ng/ml or put it in to the terms they are using a mere 5.9748 nmol/L
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
The sensationalized headline is misleading it appears that they have studies that swing in any direction they wish to herd the cattle what has been discovered is a mutation in the CYP2R1 gene that processes Vitamin D differently or perhaps more effectively.

It is not a viable study for those that do no have the mutation in the CYP2R1 gene to compare Vitamin D levels and one should not rush to take this study too seriously.

Cytochrome P450, family 2, subfamily R, polypeptide 1 CYP2R1:

UniProtKB/Swiss-Prot: CP2R1_HUMAN, Q6VVX0
Function: Has a D-25-hydroxylase activity on both forms of vitamin D, vitamin D(2) and D(3)

[link to www.genecards.org]

CYP2R1

Function

Vitamin D 25-hydroxylase is a member of the cytochrome P450 superfamily of enzymes. The cytochrome P450 proteins are monooxygenases which catalyze many reactions involved in drug metabolism and synthesis of cholesterol, steroids and other lipids. This enzyme is a microsomal vitamin D hydroxylase that converts vitamin D into 25-hydroxyvitamin D (calcidiol), which is the major circulatory form of the vitamin.

Rest of Article:
[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Genetic evidence that the human CYP2R1 enzyme is a key vitamin D 25-hydroxylase

The synthesis of bioactive vitamin D requires hydroxylation at the 1? and 25 positions by cytochrome P450 enzymes in the kidney and liver, respectively. The mitochondrial enzyme CYP27B1 catalyzes 1?-hydroxylation in the kidney but the identity of the hepatic 25-hydroxylase has remained unclear for >30 years.

The inherited mutation caused the substitution of a proline for an evolutionarily conserved leucine at amino acid 99 in the CYP2R1 protein and eliminated vitamin D 25-hydroxylase enzyme activity. These data identify CYP2R1 as a biologically relevant vitamin D 25-hydroxylase and reveal the molecular basis of a human genetic disease, selective 25-hydroxyvitamin D deficiency.

Rest of Article:
[link to www.pnas.org]
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Not sure I believe that, there are quite a few illnesses linked to low vitamin D, like MS and Arthritis and stuff like that.
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My wife likes the vitamin D supplments I provide:

uu===========D ~~~
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10,000 IU a day for LIFE
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10,000 is too high. 5000 to maybe 8000 max. Vitamin D supplements accumulate in your body. You should take 5k and try to get some sun on top of it or go tanning.

My dog ate a bottle of my Vit D liquigels and almost died. There is such a thing as too much of a good thing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1380277



This correlates with what I am finding. Vitamin D3 is great stuff and probably one of the most helpful supplements you can take (magnesium is, too). But do be careful with large amounts.

Vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin meaning that it does accumulate in your body, unlike a water soluble vitamin such as B-12 which lasts less than week or so.

2,000 or 3,000 is plenty for most people with perhaps 5,000 in winter with less sunlight,

The only times I've heard of 10,000 + being advised is if you are really sick or starting to come down with the flu.

Research symptoms of Vit D3 overdose and cut back if you begin to experience any.
 Quoting: Ralph--a house dog

COMPLETELY Agree with the above poster - 2000 to 3000 IU is PLENTY in summer/spring months. Up it to 3400 IU's in the winter and you're GOLDEN!5a
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Funny isn't it that we live in the information age and so much of it is bull due to Big Pharma and the rest who want to keep us stupid and in line so that they can continue to kill us while making money on the rest. I hate the corruption in this world and hope it ends soon.
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Odd ..
I've been trying to post some valid info on this for about
15 mins now.

I wonder if the BIG PHARMA lies are only acceptable
here at GLP now ?

Sorry I can't post the article or references due to some
restrictions here

The real info is this
there are TWO different kinds of Vit D

Ergocalciferol D2

Cholecalciferol D3

D3 is better metabolised,so not toxic

article here
[link to articles.mercola.com]
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
My doctor just put me on 10,000 IU daily for two months then 5,000 IU daily after that. Apparently I had pretty much no D in my body and he kind of freaked out. I feel a lot better now, it has been about two weeks into the 10,000 IU's daily, can tell a real difference. I've been having a real hard time losing weight (no thyroid) and doc said it was due to the D problem, so got my fingers crossed now.

I am not sure about low D being linked to long life. Correlation does not equal causation, but maybe there is a defining factor that links the two. It would be interesting to understand that link if it exists.
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10,000 daily is not a lot.. I've read studies where 50,000 was given daily for long periods.. its good stuff.
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
Offspring of parents who lived into their 90s had significantly lower levels of 25(OH) vitamin D

This has to be one of the worst designed studies of all time. Notice it doesn't say that people over 90 had low levels of vitamin D. It was their 50-60 year old children.

Someone tell me what scientific relevance this has????
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There is a study that proves low vitamin D levels correlate with type 1 diabetes
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Re: Low Vitamin D Linked with Long Life -claims Dutch researchers.
some ppl make upto 50,000 ui a day just from sunlight, most make 20,000. Get in the sun. So 10,000 a day doesn't seem to high especially as all of it wont be absorbed.

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