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Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits

 
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Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits

Just saw the story on 60 mins about the jobs situation in the USA

3 million job openings, WOW!...the problem is the companies say that today's average applicant does not have the technical skills needed for the job(s)

2 guys went thru 16 weeks of school and were offered machinist jobs at $12hr

I thought a job of this technical skill would at least start at $16 an hour

your thoughts?
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11/11/2012 07:46 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
I wouldn't get out of bed for $12 an hour.
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welcome to the obonomy.
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11/11/2012 07:51 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
earned more than that as second year apprentice in 1988.
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
12/hr, fuck that.
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You can make more than that on unemployment.
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
When you're about to live under a bridge you'll take $12 bucks an hour.
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11/11/2012 07:55 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
no wonder prostitution is legal in NV, it's the only way to earn a living..
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
I have an associates degree in Cnc Technology and worked in the field for about 6 years. Fuck that level of pay ... I'll gladly ride out my veterans compensation than deal with that. Thanks Tax payers.
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11/11/2012 08:00 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
According to the all knowing free market and his good friend the invisible hand, that's all American machinists are worth.
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11/11/2012 08:06 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
After 16 weeks of machinist training they would be just entry level with basic knowledge and familiarity of concepts. After 5 years in the trade you can start calling yourself a machinist maybe. Most never get past being machine operators.
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11/11/2012 08:13 PM
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That's why the guy can fill the job.
$12 an hour today is poverty wages.
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11/11/2012 08:14 PM
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There's a nationwide shortage of highly skilled workers who are willing to work for peanuts.
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Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits

Just saw the story on 60 mins about the jobs situation in the USA

3 million job openings, WOW!...the problem is the companies say that today's average applicant does not have the technical skills needed for the job(s)

2 guys went thru 16 weeks of school and were offered machinist jobs at $12hr

I thought a job of this technical skill would at least start at $16 an hour

your thoughts?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27120400


Sad, but when unemployment is high, thats what you get


As a kid in 1983 I was making 16 bucks an hour working for UPS, after I quit in 86 to start my own biz I never worked a job that pays by the hour again

But the point of your post is valid, there are jobs if you have the skills
For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
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12 bucks an hour isn't shit for a manual machinist.

They must be looking for button pushers.
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11/11/2012 08:19 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
Here is the Company in question

[link to www.clickbond.com]

They make fasteners for aerospace and aircraft among other things
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11/11/2012 08:20 PM
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What they don't tell you is that the CEO of the company and his kiss asses sitting behind the desks are making 100hr or more.
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11/11/2012 08:23 PM
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Here is the Company in question

[link to www.clickbond.com]

They make fasteners for aerospace and aircraft among other things
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Yep, monkey see monkey do, high piece volume, button pushers.

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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
$12 an hour? That is pathetic.
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What they don't tell you is that the CEO of the company and his kiss asses sitting behind the desks are making 100hr or more.
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Waaaaaay more. 100?
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11/11/2012 08:33 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
That's pretty poor for a machinist. It should be closer to 20, or higher for a journeyman.

The problem we have here in Canada today is pakies they bring in from India to do the job for $5 an hour. They've forced all kinds of shops to close and are in the process of turning the profesion into a Burger King job.
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That's pretty poor for a machinist. It should be closer to 20, or higher for a journeyman.

The problem we have here in Canada today is pakies they bring in from India to do the job for $5 an hour. They've forced all kinds of shops to close and are in the process of turning the profesion into a Burger King job.
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"Pakies" would be from Pakistan, Indians, from India, get your low wage job-stealers, straight!
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
12 bucks an hour isn't shit for a manual machinist.

They must be looking for button pushers.
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The average age of the machinists at my place is 59. We are desperately looking for machine operators. Screw machines, lathe operators and set up people. All of them 50 & 60 year old manual machines. Kids aren't interested in learning the old ways.

The last 10 "machinists" we interviewed thought all they had to do was place a part and push the 2 yellow buttons at the same time. One guy that looked promising couldn't read vernier calipers, almost could read a dial caliper and couldn't figure out how to change the digital from mm to inches. He did OK after we showed him. Still wasn't good enough though.

As these guys retire, we as a company will be screwed unless they start spending some money on modern CNC machines. If fact we have 3 guys that are retired that still work 2 ~ 3 days a week.

But, there's still China. (Where about 3/4 of our product comes from now. Lots a'crap. I'm in QC so I see all of it!)

I don't think we pay much more than that and we're in rural SC.
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
they'll all be cut down to part time status soon enough.....
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11/11/2012 08:55 PM
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
To judge their caliber all you have to ask is if they can work in tenths.
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30 years experience,in BC Canada,over $34 an hour. Repair shop,no mass production
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
That's pretty poor for a machinist. It should be closer to 20, or higher for a journeyman.

The problem we have here in Canada today is pakies they bring in from India to do the job for $5 an hour. They've forced all kinds of shops to close and are in the process of turning the profesion into a Burger King job.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27534421

"Pakies" would be from Pakistan, Indians, from India, get your low wage job-stealers, straight!
 Quoting: Beachbums


We use it as a blanket term. Any swarthy Asian or Middle Easterner wearing a towel for a hat is reffered to as a paki in most countries of the former British Empire.
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11/11/2012 09:02 PM
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According to the all knowing free market and his good friend the invisible hand, that's all American machinists are worth.
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Actually it is all an entry level machinist is worth. How long before a good one makes decent money is the question.

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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
WTF I MAKE $24 AND CHANGE A HOUR WITH BENEFITS AND A PENSION AND I FEEL POOR.

Shit and I'm not even 30 yet. Is USA that bad when 12 bucks is a good job?

Thats a dollar more than are min wage.
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11/11/2012 09:08 PM

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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
Here's how it works. They advertise a position for low pay, and demand high qualifications. Sometimes the qualifications are impossible, such as having 2 years experience working with Microsoft 8.

Then when no-one who is qualified applies, the company applies to bring in foreign workers. They drop the impossible qualification, and hire foreigners who will do the job on the cheap.

At least this ad is offering $12 an hour. The fake ads in my area usually only offer $8. (But they require the person be bilingual, have several years of supervising, and have several years of specialized training. All for only minimum wage. )
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Re: Holy crap, Machinist in Nevada starting pay $12hr with benefits
they'll all be cut down to part time status soon enough.....
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To judge their caliber all you have to ask is if they can work in tenths.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27041005


194: I was wondering about that too with Obamacare kicking in soon. We are under 30 people so maybe it won't affect us.
Yeah, wishful thinking.

1005: It would be nice if we only dealt in tenths. The US prints are in decimal AND fractions. The Chinese crap comes in metric. Takes me longer to convert for inspection logs than the actual inspections do.

Thank goodness for Excel. I've got the logs set up to auto-convert the entries for the "official" records. Not so bad.

I almost wish we would just convert everything to metric. So much easier. I said almost. Tenths would be OK too.

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