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John Lear - No Planes Hit Towers on 911

 
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Perhaps not "melted" but weakened by the fire I believe was the consensus. Either way its complete bullshit. We watched 3 controlled demos that day.
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"PERHAPS not melted"?? How about the fact that "melted steel" was ABSOLUTELY never part of the official report, but 911 truthers keep claiming it was?! It's not as if there is little difference between "melted" and "weakened". There is a HUGE difference! One didn't happen- one DID happen! There is plenty of photographic evidence showing the exterior walls buckling just before the collapse. Of course you just ignore that in favor of making your blanket, conspiritorial conclusion about "controlled demolition".
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SHILL ALERT
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That's right... that's right out of the "truther" playbook. Don't address the facts, just scream "SHILL".
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"PERHAPS not melted"?? How about the fact that "melted steel" was ABSOLUTELY never part of the official report, but 911 truthers keep claiming it was?! It's not as if there is little difference between "melted" and "weakened". There is a HUGE difference! One didn't happen- one DID happen! There is plenty of photographic evidence showing the exterior walls buckling just before the collapse. Of course you just ignore that in favor of making your blanket, conspiritorial conclusion about "controlled demolition".
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SHILL ALERT
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That's right... that's right out of the "truther" playbook. Don't address the facts, just scream "SHILL".
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Gee Whiz! These Anderson Cooper Groupies are everywhere!!!
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WTF is that supposed to mean?
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
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OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
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OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
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So sad. This guy probably believes fluoride is doin his body good too. Keep believin the media bud, they just have your best interests at hearttomato
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
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OMG... I looked it up. It's the idea that nukes took down the towers. Yeah... that happened...
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35531852


OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
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So sad. This guy probably believes fluoride is doin his body good too. Keep believin the media bud, they just have your best interests at hearttomato
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Why is it that proponents of certain wacky theories have to place OTHER absurd beliefs in the minds of people who don't subscribe to their nonsense?

The "media" didn't tell me that no steel had to "melt" to bring down the WTC towers, despite the chronic misrepresentation of the "offical story, to that effect, by the "truther" movement.
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35531852


OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


So sad. This guy probably believes fluoride is doin his body good too. Keep believin the media bud, they just have your best interests at hearttomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35737278


Why is it that proponents of certain wacky theories have to place OTHER absurd beliefs in the minds of people who don't subscribe to their nonsense?

The "media" didn't tell me that no steel had to "melt" to bring down the WTC towers, despite the chronic misrepresentation of the "offical story, to that effect, by the "truther" movement.
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"TRUTHER TRUTHER TRUTHER!!!" typical
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"PERHAPS not melted"?? How about the fact that "melted steel" was ABSOLUTELY never part of the official report, but 911 truthers keep claiming it was?! It's not as if there is little difference between "melted" and "weakened". There is a HUGE difference! One didn't happen- one DID happen! There is plenty of photographic evidence showing the exterior walls buckling just before the collapse. Of course you just ignore that in favor of making your blanket, conspiritorial conclusion about "controlled demolition".
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SHILL ALERT
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That's right... that's right out of the "truther" playbook. Don't address the facts, just scream "SHILL".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


Gee Whiz! These Anderson Cooper Groupies are everywhere!!!
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clappa
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35531852


OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
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Take a full beer can and enthusiastically smash it into any sort of solid object.

Observe what happens.
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35531852


OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


So sad. This guy probably believes fluoride is doin his body good too. Keep believin the media bud, they just have your best interests at hearttomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35737278


Why is it that proponents of certain wacky theories have to place OTHER absurd beliefs in the minds of people who don't subscribe to their nonsense?

The "media" didn't tell me that no steel had to "melt" to bring down the WTC towers, despite the chronic misrepresentation of the "offical story, to that effect, by the "truther" movement.
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They run and hide after awhile. Nothing new.
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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35531852


OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
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Take a full beer can and enthusiastically smash it into any sort of solid object.

Observe what happens.
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So now we are supposed to pretend the WTC facades were "solid objects"?
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OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


So sad. This guy probably believes fluoride is doin his body good too. Keep believin the media bud, they just have your best interests at hearttomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35737278


Why is it that proponents of certain wacky theories have to place OTHER absurd beliefs in the minds of people who don't subscribe to their nonsense?

The "media" didn't tell me that no steel had to "melt" to bring down the WTC towers, despite the chronic misrepresentation of the "offical story, to that effect, by the "truther" movement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


"TRUTHER TRUTHER TRUTHER!!!" typical
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Avoid all facts in favor of meaningless blather. Typical.
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So sad. This guy probably believes fluoride is doin his body good too. Keep believin the media bud, they just have your best interests at hearttomato
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35737278


Why is it that proponents of certain wacky theories have to place OTHER absurd beliefs in the minds of people who don't subscribe to their nonsense?

The "media" didn't tell me that no steel had to "melt" to bring down the WTC towers, despite the chronic misrepresentation of the "offical story, to that effect, by the "truther" movement.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


"TRUTHER TRUTHER TRUTHER!!!" typical
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Avoid all facts in favor of meaningless blather. Typical.
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As you continue
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SHILL ALERT
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That's right... that's right out of the "truther" playbook. Don't address the facts, just scream "SHILL".
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Gee Whiz! These Anderson Cooper Groupies are everywhere!!!
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WTF is that supposed to mean?
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Im guessing they mean you've got your nose so far up Anderson Cooper's ass you cant see the light of day. Just speculating though.
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That's right... that's right out of the "truther" playbook. Don't address the facts, just scream "SHILL".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


Gee Whiz! These Anderson Cooper Groupies are everywhere!!!
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WTF is that supposed to mean?
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Im guessing they mean you've got your nose so far up Anderson Cooper's ass you cant see the light of day. Just speculating though.
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clappa
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That's right... that's right out of the "truther" playbook. Don't address the facts, just scream "SHILL".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


Gee Whiz! These Anderson Cooper Groupies are everywhere!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35737278


WTF is that supposed to mean?
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Im guessing they mean you've got your nose so far up Anderson Cooper's ass you cant see the light of day. Just speculating though.
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I have no idea what Anderson Cooper says or thinks about any of this. I just go by demonstrable facts. The "no-planers" have none. It's as simple as that.
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Gee Whiz! These Anderson Cooper Groupies are everywhere!!!
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WTF is that supposed to mean?
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Im guessing they mean you've got your nose so far up Anderson Cooper's ass you cant see the light of day. Just speculating though.
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I have no idea what Anderson Cooper says or thinks about any of this. I just go by demonstrable facts. The "no-planers" have none. It's as simple as that.
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I'm not necessarily a "no-planer" but if there really were no planes and it was missiles masked with CGI for television, then there would be no evidence. I'm of the mind that at least one plane hit (south tower). Still not sure about north tower.
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We're never gonna find out exactly what happened that day. We should probably just save our breath.
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dumbass, OP, you AND him.



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I have no idea what Anderson Cooper says or thinks about any of this. I just go by demonstrable facts. The "no-planers" have none. It's as simple as that.



Then you probably haven't read my 15 page affidavit to the New Yorlk District Court in support of Morgan Reynolds
Quit Tam Complaint suing the 22 perpetrators.

I prove that there were no planes on 911.

Maybe you ought to take a look before making statements
like, "the no-plnaers" have none.

This of course is assuming you can read.

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I'm not necessarily a "no-planer" but if there really were no planes and it was missiles masked with CGI for television, then there would be no evidence. I'm of the mind that at least one plane hit (south tower). Still not sure about north tower.



No plane hit either tower. Perhaps you should read my proof in my affidavit to the New York District Court proving this.

As far as the south tower no airliner could possible have flown at 561 MPH at sea leverl Maximum speed would have been 360 knots or 380 mph.

Further, it would have been impossible for a first time pilot to have hit a building, dead center.

No experienced pilot has been able to duplicate this maneuver in the simulator.

Live your life with integrity; and without envy hate or greed. Express your love to your family every day.

Thats all you have to do in this life other than doing things you like to do.
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[link to news.bbc.co.uk]

Friday, 14 September, 2001, 14:18 GMT 15:18 UK
'I saw the people in the cockpit'
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So if the planes that hit the towers were remote controlled or holograms, that would mean the originating flights were diverted somewhere else and the passengers and crews were murdered?
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I'm not necessarily a "no-planer" but if there really were no planes and it was missiles masked with CGI for television, then there would be no evidence. I'm of the mind that at least one plane hit (south tower). Still not sure about north tower.



No plane hit either tower. Perhaps you should read my proof in my affidavit to the New York District Court proving this.

As far as the south tower no airliner could possible have flown at 561 MPH at sea leverl Maximum speed would have been 360 knots or 380 mph.

Further, it would have been impossible for a first time pilot to have hit a building, dead center.

No experienced pilot has been able to duplicate this maneuver in the simulator.

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They had Allah on their side. All things are possible with Allah!!

Seriously, though, I believe you. Thanks for having the guts to state the facts.
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, OP, you AND him.



So, lets see here, did you write an affidavit in support of your opinion or did you just watch TV?

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Honest to God, find some old footage of the Japanese planes crumpling and dropping like flies off our battleships in WWII. THAT's what happens to light, think aluminum when it hits steel! Duh! Make your own experiment. The nose of those jetliners would have crumpled so fast and disintegrated off the side of those steel reinforced towers pronto.

Better yet, investigate "The Third Truth," and get a real education. I cannot even believe I and the other American people fell for this carp so long as we did, before seeing "The Third Truth."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 35531852


OK- have it your way for a moment. The exterior facade of the WTC towers is the same as the thick plate steel of battleships(right...). Let's say that is true... Where are the planes? Where are the occupants? Fantastical conspiracy theory starts in 3...2...1...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 636186


Take a full beer can and enthusiastically smash it into any sort of solid object.

Observe what happens.
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So now we are supposed to pretend the WTC facades were "solid objects"?
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OK, how about smashing it into some iron grillwork or something else that is rigid, solid, and fixed to the ground. Think, McFly!
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I'm not necessarily a "no-planer" but if there really were no planes and it was missiles masked with CGI for television, then there would be no evidence. I'm of the mind that at least one plane hit (south tower). Still not sure about north tower.



No plane hit either tower. Perhaps you should read my proof in my affidavit to the New York District Court proving this.

As far as the south tower no airliner could possible have flown at 561 MPH at sea leverl Maximum speed would have been 360 knots or 380 mph.

Further, it would have been impossible for a first time pilot to have hit a building, dead center.

No experienced pilot has been able to duplicate this maneuver in the simulator.

 Quoting: johnlear


So the plane that people saw (south tower) was a hologram?? Didnt realize such technology existed. Nobody was watching the north tower so it really didnt matter.
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I'm not necessarily a "no-planer" but if there really were no planes and it was missiles masked with CGI for television, then there would be no evidence. I'm of the mind that at least one plane hit (south tower). Still not sure about north tower.



No plane hit either tower. Perhaps you should read my proof in my affidavit to the New York District Court proving this.

As far as the south tower no airliner could possible have flown at 561 MPH at sea leverl Maximum speed would have been 360 knots or 380 mph.

Further, it would have been impossible for a first time pilot to have hit a building, dead center.

No experienced pilot has been able to duplicate this maneuver in the simulator.

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Hi John, in the link following your post, a witness said he saw the plane coming in towards the tower with the landing gear down.

How much would having the gear down effect the top speed? quite a bit I assume?
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Dimitri A. Khalezov will show anyone interested how you turn 110 stories of steel into dust.

And NO, there were no flts 11 and 175 in nyc that day. Flt 77 wasn't in Washington. Fly 93 wasn't in Penn.

They didn't even decommission those jets until years later.

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