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BREAKING CIVIL WAR 15 STATES PETITION TO SECEDE FROM THE UNITED STATES !

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2012 05:14 AM
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Our mews is talking about it asking us what we think about it.
I think we are heading toward another civil war just like the last one.
Different party, same song.
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news I meant. Sorry I'm still bleary eyed lol.
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11/13/2012 05:18 AM
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United we stand, devided we fall.

The penalty for treason is death. Leave the country if you wish, but if you try to destroy America, you will be hung.
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So when can we start hanging politicians?
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11/13/2012 05:21 AM
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What would all those states do with all their Democrats (mostly the blacks and the Mexicans)? Even firmly red states had 40% vote Democrat.
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11/13/2012 05:26 AM
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If states ever really seceded and caused a second civil war, in 10 years time everyone in America would be speaking Russian or Chinese, because that's who would finish the war.
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And the globalists will sit back and laugh as we fight each other. Most people in this country are too stupid to realize this is what is fixing on happening. To all the people that want secession, you ought to be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
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The globalists want all of the USA , witness their agenda
(which is suceeding very well) to dumb down everybody, take over the media and schools, use radical enviromentalism
to destroy industry(which nobody ever challenges) and so on.
Its getting to where the ship of state is a lost cause.
Best to leave and create islands of freedom elsewhere,
make the commies work for their conquests.
You can ignore the consequences of
your actions, but you cannot ignore
the RESULTS of the consequences of your actions

Ayn Rand
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11/13/2012 07:45 PM
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They keep leaving Oklahoma off the petitions list, because it doesn't have enough signatures yet to be on the main page. Please sign it, if you haven't already. It needs 100 more signatures so it can be added to the main database.

[link to wh.gov]
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11/14/2012 02:15 AM

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United we stand, devided we fall.

The penalty for treason is death. Leave the country if you wish, but if you try to destroy America, you will be hung.
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Not destroying. Re-organizing.

The Soviet Union did it, and peacefully for the most part.
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11/16/2012 02:51 AM
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Counter petition to the counter petitions of the secession petitions.

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
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11/26/2012 01:46 AM
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11/29/2012 01:11 PM
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Don’t secede as states, at least not yet. But, accomplish the same thing in the mid term by kicking out every blue “urban area” that is for big, expensive, totalitarian (eventually) Fed government.

Think on this model: Vatican City is a sovereign state w/in the city of Rome, a capital city w/in the nation of Italy. Everybody gets along fine in the long term so long as they each mind their own business. They interact w/ each other thru international treaties; not oversight from a centralized (potentially totalitarian) body.
A similar relationship exists between Washington, D.C. and the rest of the USA. That District is outside any state – even tho it was cobbled together from bits of states. They have their own local government. They do not have any Senate representation and only a non-voting position in the House. For any national involvement they depend entirely upon Congress.

Apply those models to each red state.

To start, surely there is more than one predominantly red state that contains w/in it a modest, blue urban area. The test case. Convene a state assembly whose goal is to expel that area from the rest of the state. I sincerely doubt that there is any Fed constitutional provision that constrains what a state can do w/in its own borders so long as what they do doesn’t violate any existing Fed law. After all, when the state joined up many of those urban areas probably didn’t even exist. As to what happens to the expelled area, don’t care what happens to it, not my problem. Eventually, it will probably become another District w/in the US Fed – like Washington, D.C. Still US citizens. Still paying Fed taxes. But, nothing but neighbors to the enclosing reformed state. Oh, and they are not being disenfranchised. They don’t pay state taxes so they don’t need state representation.

The state convention will not officially consider a secession from the US. In fact, it ought to formally forbid any such open discussion so no Fed marshals show up to arrest seditionists. Each successive state convention will refine the process – learning from each that preceded it. During this process, the relationship w/ all of the other 49 states will remain the same, as will the relationship w/ the Fed.

Keep in mind what is going on between all those new Districts and the “remaining” states (i.e., don’t forget, until a total breakup occurs we are all 50 states and some Districts). Urban centers produce little food. They will have to import it from the surrounding red areas. Ditto for energy. As to jobs, they can either let nearby “ferriners” commute in to do the non-industrial paper-pushing that is all urban centers do nowadays or they can do w/out that tax base, too. They can fuss and piss about all they want. But, unless they are willing to relive the Berlin airlift they will have to grow up right quick and get along w/ their new neighbors in a new way. How they do that can be a detailed sidebar discussion at each successive convention.
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11/29/2012 01:24 PM
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Do ya'll think that the US can continue on this path as a unified entity? Is our country some holy empire that cannot dissolve. 1 month ago I just got back from Czechoslovakia... er... Sudetenland.... er... oh yeah, they call it the Czech Republic now.

Countries come and countries go. Our's is not above that.
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11/29/2012 01:40 PM
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VIdeo has been taken down (and not by user i bet).

Is there another somewhere else please?

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