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Should We Prepare For Civil War?

 
Gerlad The Magnificent

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Verichip (the mark of the beast) is supposed to be implemented March 23, 2013. I live in Alabama, a Christian state. We are part of the Bible belt which includes Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, and so on. I, like most citizens here in Alabama, would refuse the mark. They would have to give it to me over my dead body! I have heard rumors that when the mark is required by law, the Bible belt, and any other states who are against the mark might dsband from the US. This would create a civil war between us and the rest of the country. What do you guys think?
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Yea, that whole microchip implantation thing is just a rumor. No validity to it.
[link to www.snopes.com]
 Quoting: Gerlad The Magnificent


Think again. They may only use it for people with certain medical conditions FIRST, but it will soon include everyone.
 Quoting: Dease


I understand your concern, as I too fear for my civil rights these days. But the government is a large incompetent monolith. Congress can't evergreen on a budget let alone mass RFID implantations.
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Verichip (the mark of the beast) is supposed to be implemented March 23, 2013. I live in Alabama, a Christian state. We are part of the Bible belt which includes Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, and so on. I, like most citizens here in Alabama, would refuse the mark. They would have to give it to me over my dead body! I have heard rumors that when the mark is required by law, the Bible belt, and any other states who are against the mark might dsband from the US. This would create a civil war between us and the rest of the country. What do you guys think?
 Quoting: Dease


Yea, that whole microchip implantation thing is just a rumor. No validity to it.
[link to www.snopes.com]
 Quoting: Gerlad The Magnificent


Think again. They may only use it for people with certain medical conditions FIRST, but it will soon include everyone.
 Quoting: Dease


I understand your concern, as I too fear for my civil rights these days. But the government is a large incompetent monolith. Congress can't evergreen on a budget let alone mass RFID implantations.
 Quoting: Gerlad The Magnificent


Wow - so much to catch up on since I dropped by here last.

No, microchip implantation is not myth (and SNOPES is surely no beacon of truth), and has already begun being used as a means of convenience. You may want to also research the Government of Mexico's use, as well as use for convenience/ access to various nightclubs in both the US, as well as Europe.

The introduction for familiarity and acceptance leads into dependence, and ultimately requirement.

Regardless whether the US Congress can/ has submit a budget (at ANY point during this administration - which in and of itself raises it's own sets of concerns), you should be very concerned
1) Who actually comprises the Administration Staff Positions for this next presidential term
2) The additional Executive Orders that WILL come down the line after inauguration
3) Congress HAS voted through Obamacare, and you watch for the calls for this implementation in order to participate - you know, so we can make sure you are getting what you need and rule out any possibility of loss of records - then public insurance companies will soon jump on the bandwagon.

Don't believe me that people are being imprinted and conditioned to accept being tracked, and to accept this from an electronic device? Take heed of the latest Progressive Insurance (and that name is no coincidence, but that's another rant) commercial; take this little device, plug it into your car - thereby accepting being monitored -and then you MAY qualify for a lower rate. That will not only be picked up by other competing companies, but the groundwork is also being laid for these type devices to become mandatory.

25 years ago, not only was it a far-fetched imagination that everyone would carry a personal phone in their pocket, but the types of phones that are currently in use were unimaginable at that time. Computers? Consider how far they've progressed and the dependence now on them.

It is this explosion of dependence on technological advances that has lead to an overwhelming conditioning that you MUST have the latest/ greatest gadgets a gizmos or be left behind as archaic. On-line banking/ bill pay/ correspondence/ etc. - even this very forum- are results of the movement into further dependence on devices. Couple with this the amount of identity theft that has resulted (ask your parents or grandparents how prevalent this was 20 - 30 yrs ago), and yes, the Verichip [or Carbon Nanotube Tattoos] will be readily accepted in belief that it brings along not only convenience, but now an added element of security.

The next major push will be to magically ensure the safety of our children by having the "chip" implanted, and why not? It was welcomed for our beloved pets, which proved the test-bed for this entire program.

I believe required implementation will begin with those receiving government benefits, those with extensive medical histories & on-going procedures, but these will follow (rapidly) the implanting of these devices in inmates - again, under the guise of security.

The Bible tells us that the controlling means of the Anti-Christ will be widely accepted under these auspices of safety and security. Just because you do not witness the Anti-Christ actually implanting the devices has absolutely no bearing on the facts that people WILL be governed by the Anti-Christ, and the various means of this governing and the furtherance of his agenda will be in place well before his revealing to the world.

And if you say "that's ok - I'm not religious and it makes my life easier", why would any free man consciously accept being tracked and accounted for like cattle?
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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
Verichip (the mark of the beast) is supposed to be implemented March 23, 2013. I live in Alabama, a Christian state. We are part of the Bible belt which includes Georgia, Mississippi, Texas, and so on. I, like most citizens here in Alabama, would refuse the mark. They would have to give it to me over my dead body! I have heard rumors that when the mark is required by law, the Bible belt, and any other states who are against the mark might dsband from the US. This would create a civil war between us and the rest of the country. What do you guys think?
 Quoting: Dease


Yea, that whole microchip implantation thing is just a rumor. No validity to it.
[link to www.snopes.com]
 Quoting: Gerlad The Magnificent


Think again. They may only use it for people with certain medical conditions FIRST, but it will soon include everyone.
 Quoting: Dease


I understand your concern, as I too fear for my civil rights these days. But the government is a large incompetent monolith. Congress can't evergreen on a budget let alone mass RFID implantations.
 Quoting: Gerlad The Magnificent


Count on it.
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I would just take the chip ... The government means no harm. the government is doing this for our safety
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LOL atleast 75% of the public will take this stance
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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
What's coming down the line is much more intense.

War among countries
War from governments against their own people
People of a society fighting amongst themselves
People fighting against (opposing) their neighbor on behalf of their government
People fighting against government
Governments unite (One World Government)One World Government focused on controlling, enslaving, and exterminating "undesirable" (otherwise uncontrollable) people

It will be a time as never experienced before - it's almost overwhelming to even consider - but will be much broader than the smaller skirmishes we see now in other countries of smaller bands in conflict with their government.

Yes, now is time to prepare.
Prepare for yourself and your families
More importantly - prepare yourself for eternity
 Quoting: ClydeX


This line. They will all come to terms that WE are the threat to them. Just like how all the kings of Europe put aside their differences and attacked France during their revolution.
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I'm skeptical of the chip. If it were voluntary, lots of people would apply for it if it meant life would be "easier". sheep

It will take some major event to set things off. Economic collapse, EMP attack, oil shock, racial riots. That sort of thing.

Out here on the frontier, we would quickly be on our own. Most of the conflict would be around large cities.
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When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal status to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitles them a decent respect for the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
I would just take the chip ... The government means no harm. the government is doing this for our safety
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I do not live in America to be safe asshole, I live here to be free.
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Land of the safe or land of the free?
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11/14/2012 04:00 PM
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There's not gonna be any chip but you should be prepared anyway.
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Those chips are made in Fort Lauderdale fl
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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
What's coming down the line is much more intense.

War among countries
War from governments against their own people
People of a society fighting amongst themselves
People fighting against (opposing) their neighbor on behalf of their government
People fighting against government
Governments unite (One World Government)One World Government focused on controlling, enslaving, and exterminating "undesirable" (otherwise uncontrollable) people

It will be a time as never experienced before - it's almost overwhelming to even consider - but will be much broader than the smaller skirmishes we see now in other countries of smaller bands in conflict with their government.

Yes, now is time to prepare.
Prepare for yourself and your families
More importantly - prepare yourself for eternity
 Quoting: ClydeX


This line. They will all come to terms that WE are the threat to them. Just like how all the kings of Europe put aside their differences and attacked France during their revolution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3694399


hmm
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11/15/2012 02:54 AM
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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
I think you're nuts. I live in Georgia and I'm sick of all the religious crap people spew all the damn time.
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It's not so much about religion. But losing ones personal freedom. 'Tag em like cattle'
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they will try and RFID chip everyone in this country. And yes it will lead to civil war....
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Agreed.
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thequote:Anonymous Coward 23011194:MV8yMDQ4Mjg1XzM0NDQwMzk1Xzc5QjlDN0FF]
within hours of winning the election, Barry was on the phone to the UN and told them to get started on the gun ban treaty. So this country is in serious trouble....


Concord baby! Paul Revere is T-minus 2 years from riding. From where will the 2nd shot heard around the world be heard? I'm going with Texas as just a guess.
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The RFID chip is not going to be required until 2014 when ObamaCare kicks in.
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When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal status to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitles them a decent respect for the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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clappa

How quickly people forget.

The architects of the original revolution and founders of this 'new' country are spinning in their graves right now ...

Last Edited by MindShaft on 11/15/2012 03:48 AM
"People have been conditioned to ridicule all that they are incapable of understanding." Goethe

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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
I predict that the popular GLP consensus prediction will be way off as usual when it comes to how events actually play out. : )

For example:

- GLP predicting Olympic doom
- GLP predicting false flag attack delaying elections and bringing Martial Law
- GLP predicting rioting & chaos post election
- etc

charlie

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I predict that the popular GLP consensus prediction will be way off as usual when it comes to how events actually play out. : )

For example:

- GLP predicting Olympic doom
- GLP predicting false flag attack delaying elections and bringing Martial Law
- GLP predicting rioting & chaos post election
- etc

charlie
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Characteristic of 95% of the posters here?

But they're impatient. The control/decay of the 'troublesome' middle class is incremental - to the point where it becomes slow-motion gloom, rather than high-impact Hollywood-style doom.

The wheels ARE in motion - they just aren't turning fast enough for the Doomsayers.

Scary how they can orchestrate and implement those freedom-eroding changes at that day-to-day, month-to month level, - no?

Last Edited by MindShaft on 11/15/2012 03:58 AM
"People have been conditioned to ridicule all that they are incapable of understanding." Goethe

"None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe that they are free." Goethe
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Incrementalism is their stealth weapon.

They understand the political danger of drastic change.

Understand this, then every new 'low-impact' law or tax that they introduce to restrict our freedoms and milk wealth from those that still can pay, to ultimately create their dystopian vision of an absolute, two-tier, 'have-and-have-not' society becomes blindingly obvious.

Last Edited by MindShaft on 11/15/2012 04:21 AM
"People have been conditioned to ridicule all that they are incapable of understanding." Goethe

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I predict that the popular GLP consensus prediction will be way off as usual when it comes to how events actually play out. : )

For example:

- GLP predicting Olympic doom
- GLP predicting false flag attack delaying elections and bringing Martial Law
- GLP predicting rioting & chaos post election
- etc

charlie
 Quoting: ANHEDONIC


Perhaps. But this is a no brainer.
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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
Doubt we would ever have civil war again. Look at the last civil war. I don't think you can prepare for something of that scope very well. There is a very good chance you are already "chipped". If this is the case then best not to remove the device. Thread: The negative consequences of removing your implanted device.
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your mistaken

a house divided cannot stand

the main two schools of thought in america are irreconcilable

sooner or later it will come and will not be pretty
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I agree, it is coming, and coming soon, To many people are fed up with the way Americans are being treated. I for one look forward to it. I know that no matter what, good will always win over evil..always!
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When in the course of human events it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal status to which the laws of nature and nature's God entitles them a decent respect for the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. --That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.
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clappa

How quickly people forget.

The architects of the original revolution and founders of this 'new' country are spinning in their graves right now ...
 Quoting: MindShaft


It's so sad how those words used to actually mean something.
"Be strong and courageous. Do not be afraid or terrified because of them, for the LORD your God goes with you; he will never leave you nor forsake you." - Matthew 22: 37-39

"What good will it be for a man if he gains the whole world, yet forfeits his soul? Or what can a man give in exchange for his soul?" - Galatians 5: 22-23
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Re: Should We Prepare For Civil War?
What's coming down the line is much more intense.

War among countries
War from governments against their own people
People of a society fighting amongst themselves
People fighting against (opposing) their neighbor on behalf of their government
People fighting against government

Governments unite (One World Government)
One World Government focused on controlling, enslaving, and exterminating "undesirable" (otherwise uncontrollable) people

It will be a time as never experienced before - it's almost overwhelming to even consider - but will be much broader than the smaller skirmishes we see now in other countries of smaller bands in conflict with their government.

Yes, now is time to prepare.
Prepare for yourself and your families
More importantly - prepare yourself for eternity
 Quoting: ClydeX


This line. They will all come to terms that WE are the threat to them. Just like how all the kings of Europe put aside their differences and attacked France during their revolution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 3694399


All of the events preceding the one you highlighted (I highlighted them in red) are taking place now to some extent or another based upon geographic location right now.

The last on that list is also taking place in various locations by the respective governments. Strong consideration needs to be applied as to how Obamacare would foster and promote this final point, and such implementation may be in conjunction with or a by-product of the same. For those of us here in the US, don't put anything past this administration.

This list is a time line of societal devolving, based upon what I believe has been laid out in the Bible for us to learn, and we must take note as we see these activities taking on a much broader (opposed to relatively local) unification and application. I also believe this is in our very near future.
Job 12:7) But ask now the beasts, and they shall teach thee; and the fowls of the air, and they shall tell thee:
8) Or speak to the earth, and it shall teach thee: and the fishes of the sea shall declare unto thee.

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