did you give your baby FORMULA instead of your breast milk

Absolutely. Well said!

These freaking threads kill me. "I'm a better parent than you because blah-blah-blah"

All parents have to make decisions for what works best for their children. People need to get off their pedestals and realize there is no ONE right way. What works for you does not necessarily work for someone else.

you're a special case. And I am extremely glad that formula helped your child. That's exactly what it's for. A case like yours. Except, those account for less than 1%. However, I doubt even 40% of babies are breast fed.

Haha, NOT a poison?

Prime ingredient, high-fructose corn syrup, made with genetically modified corn, proven to cause cancer, infertility, and a range of other problems.

HFCS on its own is bad enough, but gmo as well? GOOD GAME. Your child won't live past 50, IQ won't pass 100, and will be sick his entire life.

Prescription formula is not was 99.9% of mothers use when they say "formula". They're talking standard run-of-the-mill, 50% sugar, brain killing, immune system destroying, formula.

it is. full of HFCS

this topic only makes people fight. probably a shill/distraction thread.

ladies - do what you think is best and works for you and your family. love and nurture your baby, that's what's most important. your kids will be healthy, happy and well adjusted.

and fellas? you didn't breastfeed anyone so stfu.

food is food? wow. sorry, but you are ignorant. filter the fluoride out of your water.

Where is the HFCS?

[link to www.wegmans.com]

Ingredients [Enfamil Premium Infant]
Reduced Minerals Whey, Nonfat Milk, Vegetable Oil (Palm Olein, Soy, Coconut, and High Oleic Sunflower Oils), and Less than 2%: Galactooligosaccharides (a Type of Prebiotic), Polydextrose (a Type of Prebiotic), Mortierella Alpina Oil (a Source of Arachidonic Acid (ARA)), Crypthecodinium Cohnii Oil (a Source of Docosahexaenoic Acid (DHA)), Lactose, Potassium Citrate, Calcium Carbonate, Calcium Chloride, Sodium Chloride, Calcium Phosphate, Ferrous Sulfate, Sodium Citrate, Zinc Sulfate, Cupric Sulfate, Manganese Sulfate, Sodium Selenite, Mono- and Diglycerides, Soy Lecithin, Ascorbic Acid, Sodium Ascorbate, Vitamin B12, Vitamin D3, Vitamin E Acetate, Niacinamide, Calcium Pantothenate, Vitamin A Palmitate, Thiamin Hydrochloride, Vitamin B6 Hydrochloride, Folic Acid, Vitamin K1, Biotin, Carrageenan, Choline Chloride, Inositol, Nucleotides (Cytidine 5'-Monophosphate, Adenosine 5'-Monophosphate, Disodium Guanosine 5'-Monophosphate, Disodium Uridine 5'-Monophosphate), Taurine.

THAT is one of the most offensive things I've read here.

SHAME ON YOU.



Enjoy being a sheeple, do you?

THINK for yourself instead of parroting junk talk with no substance.





Uh, yeah, we've all been seeing how much of a "bond" it creates via the much-publicized "mothers" who bf kids who run in from the playground and ask for it.

Those women clearly have mental and emotional issues and their parenting abilities and rights should be legally questioned.




omg. How disturbing that ANY woman would think about that in connection to bf.

Sometimes an honest conversation is better than pretending everything is AOK. It's not about fighting. It's about a mom, looking on the internet at 2h00am in the morning after her baby finally fell asleep and her breasts are sore and she's standing at the crossroads. You either tell her to go ahead and do "what's best" for herself and baby. Or you actually point her to a better, sustainable direction. Which I'm sorry, formula is not. Giving formula every once in a while to get a continuous 8h of sleep for mommy is not recommended, but not the end of the world every once in a while. Giving formula at every meal for 6 months and be prepared to see your kids battling disease way too early in their adult life in the best case scenario. Let me say that again: BEST CASE SCENARIO.

You could not be more wrong because if there is just ONE account of a formula-fed baby being healthy for 18 years and beyond, then your "theory" is debunked. Plain and simple. And those factual stories abound. So . . . theory debunked.

And what makes you think you are qualified to make such an ignorantly definitive statement here or anywhere else, when you could not possibly know the personal accounts of billions of mothers and babies over the past several decades?

What amazes me about all you bf fanatics, is that you completely IGNORE the FACT that children who are thrown into daycare and public schools are more likely to be sick than children who never go to daycare and are homeschooled. THAT topic matters a hell of a lot more than the tiresome bf vs. formula debate.

If you want to label who is a good mother or bad mother, concern yourself with the numerous and negative influences innocent children have to deal with during their school years because their mothers don't believe motherhood is a career and CHOOSE to work outside the home and let their children fend for themselves much of the time.

You were mislead so forgive yourself. many have been misled, including some of my closest friends who are wonderful loving people.

You can clearly see a difference between the 2 types of children. breast fed are healthier.

FYI, sheeple use formula, you got it backwards.

formula is full of poison, research it.

and suppose that poor, tired mommy chain smokes a pack a day, drinks diet sodas all day, eats only mcdonald's, smokes weed or worse, takes anti-depressants, pops an occasional xanax once or twice a day, etc.

that must make for some tasty, healthy breast milk, huh? but doesn't matter bc it is the best no matter what!

there is not just one answer here. breastfeeding works for some people and doesn't for others. and that's ok! there are no major differences. in fact, i urge you to point out people who were breastfed vs bottle fed. oh right, you can't.

and i'm sorry, but loving and nurturing and bonding with your baby is not just the domain of breastfeeding mothers. i mean, seriously? you really believe that? how sad and narrow-minded of you.

and for the record, i breastfed. but guess what? it didn't make me or my kids any better than the neighbor that bottle fed. i mean, really. it's embarrassing how foolish some of you are.

My kid asks for the breast when on the playground. So what? She has no preconceptions of what's acceptable in YOUR view of the society. She just knows what's natural to her. She's just like the "savages" in India that eat with their fingers, oblivious to YOUR table manners. Or those "animals" in africa walking around topless since they didn't get the North American Dress code memo.

We all have emotional issues. I have my own emotional issues, but clearly what you're implying is not one of them. What you said above is WAY MORE OFFENSIVE than anything the person you're quoting said.

Oh and lastly, since the basic biology escapes your and you're mind goes right to the direction of the gutter, by tightening, the poster implied the tightening of the internal muscles and structures to diminish blood loss and after-birth complications in that general area.

A lot of this is due to colostrum. Genetics has a lot to play on whether or not the kids had healthy parents. I too seen kids getting breast fed and having ear infections as well as kids getting formula that had ear infections. Did the kids get all their injections and antibiotics? This in itself could be the reason for being sickly.

Then there is the question of if the momma can make milk. If she can't and mine couldn't, then formula is your only recourse, unless you want to deal with getting a doe goat and keeping her in the backyard. Rather than getting Similac, consider getting both colostrum and dried milk replacer from the feed store, and choose something that closely matches human mother's milk or even look for a wet nurse. One thing formula doesn't give is the colostrum, and this can result in the child growing a new shirt size no matter how adult they are when they finally get it.

I'm sorry? Breastfed kids are healthier how?

Which study are you all relating too.

I just see a lot of back and forth bickering, where are these studies to back up some of your claims?

I fed my daughter formula. She is 10 now, and has
been the top student in all her classes since Kindergarten.

you're right, let's ask the pharmaceutical companies for some of the studies on the subject. That should be objective. Or you meant the objective government studies with pharma lobbyists as their chairmen?

Here is an objective study for you. Guess what? They couldn't get any pharmaceutical company to look at their findings. At least the cancer society decided to fund their research. No worries, it will probably be shut down as soon as it starts gaining some momentum.

[link to www.sciencedaily.com]
[link to www.acsu.buffalo.edu]
[link to www.sciencedaily.com]

In the 1950's formula was pushed and breast feeding was discouraged. Then came the modern era, and breast feeding is touted as the best option.

I'm still wanting the titty I never got. PM me for volunteers.

my daughter is 2.5yrs old, speaks three languages and plays well with others. So? It's not as much about being smart. That's mostly genetics. The fat in the breastmilk just adds some extra fatty acids to help along the way. It's mostly about health. In the LONG term. Although in the short term it usually helps as well.

I did all three. My first child I used formula. He is aspergers, probably from the vaccines. My second child, I had to pump breast milk, and supplement with formula, he was hospitalized from birth with many health related issues. He passed away. My third child I breastfed until I weaned him. Then I used home made formula. He is very healthy and very tall for his age. My third child was exclusively breast fed. He has MD, which is genetic, has nothing to do with formula or breast feeding. Of all the types. I think breastfeeding is best. My youngest children (mostly breastfed) seldom had an ear infection, a cold, or other sicknesses. My oldest was exclusively formula fed, and had more issues with ear infections, and colds.

Mistake number one is not allowing the baby to attempt breastfeeding the very moment it is birthed...instead they stick a pacifier in it's mouth (causing nipple confusion, which later causes un-neccesary nipple pain and latching problems) and take it away from the mother to prematurely cut it's cord, wipe it down, shove things in it's nose, ears, mouth, prick it, prode it, rub shit in its eyes, etc..none of this is medically necessary immediately after birth.


I have a hard time believing so many women "can't" produce milk. The reality is they won't, not can't..it takes several days of (typically) intense pain before any milk even comes in, most women give up before it even comes it...or they simply never ever try to breastfeed. And the pain doesn't end there. The truth is breastfeeding is not glamorous, easy or even particularly enjoyable for most women. When formula is used purely for convenience-sake is saddening..pushed by MDs/big pharma..it's sick.

This is an absolute travesty...doctors use fear tactics on new and vulnerable mothers by telling them their baby is not getting "enough" and they push sugar water and/or formula before even letting the woman's body respond to their new baby, it's disgraceful.

The fact is babies need a miniscule amount of colostrum the first few days and most women are frightened by the fact that they don't have milk immediately because they are uneducated about the process of labor, birth and breast-feeding.

I really can't fathom choosing formula simply because I "didn't" want to...I didn't want to push a 9lb baby out..when you become a parent it isn't about you anymore, it never will be again.

I would die for my children, sacrificing my tits for a year is nothing..

Great list of ingredients. I especially like the ARA/DHA in your closer than ever to breastmilk formula ingredients list

[link to www.cornucopia.org]

NO ONE "misled" me . . . I know the facts.

Your claims are without valid basis.

Stop judging what you don't know.

OMG. And you admit that.

Very disturbing.

If it is "natural" to her, it is because YOU brainwashed her emotionally while keeping her physically attached to you and your, whatever they may be, emotional problems.

ANY female who bfs beyond a very few months is then doing it for HERSELF - not the child.

Human breast milk caused eczema and digestive issues? Or did it happen after switching over to cow's milk, which will cause that in any child. Cow's milk is only good for baby cows. After weaning, humans need no milk at all.

BF shouldn't go past the time the child eats solid food.

That point is moot, it's common sense. SO, just stop it, if you're bitching at someone for doing it, stop, and if you're doing it, stop.


Also, common sense dictates that breast milk is much healthier for the child if the mother has two brain cells to rub together and only intake the essential proteins/fats/carbs/fatty acids/vitamins/trace minerals. This is what I would want to feed my child. If the mother is a meth head, by all means, use formula (sorry if harsh).


cmon folks, there's so much grey area in this topic. If you have your shit together, and can BF, then DO!. But realize when the child can eat what you do, then DON'T!

If you can't, then DON'T, b/c you CAN'T.



How hard is that to understand??

This thread is absurd.

NO ONE has the right to dictate things like this to others and those of you making these offensive judgments about mothers who choose to use formula should be ashamed.

And a suggestion for those who have emotionally trained (brainwashed) your children, who are big enough to be walking around or playing outside, into believing that it's "natural" for them to come to you and ASK to breastfeed: get help.

whatever keeps your guilt in check. There is nothing to admit here. It's like admitting I drink water. I ADMIT! Sure, and if it is natural for your kid to think the yummy genetically engineered cowburger you feed him/her is as good for their health.... well, let's just hope intelligence is not all genetic. I will give you a minute to think about that one.

no one is dictating. you got a big chip on your shoulder. you are the one out of control.