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did you give your baby FORMULA instead of your breast milk | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23940066  United States11/16/2012 02:35 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302306 United States11/16/2012 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't most breast milk these days be more toxic or poisonous than formula? My god, our diets are filled with gmo's, preservatives, chemicals...etc. unless a mother is hyper vigilant about her diet, and can afford to do so, I would put my money on formula these days. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7338745  Canada11/16/2012 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | This thread is absurd. Quoting: itsamadmadworld NO ONE has the right to dictate things like this to others and those of you making these offensive judgments about mothers who choose to use formula should be ashamed. And a suggestion for those who have emotionally trained (brainwashed) your children, who are big enough to be walking around or playing outside, into believing that it's "natural" for them to come to you and ASK to breastfeed: get help. That's funny. smells like judgement, walks like judgement, throws stones yet it's holy. Could it be you? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1246336 United States11/16/2012 02:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not breast feeding is child abuse IMO. Unless you didn't have the option. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653 THAT is one of the most offensive things I've read here. SHAME ON YOU. Breast fed children are FAR smarter. They age more slowly. They grow stronger. They have greater immunities. Bigger brains. Healthier puberty later. And they become healthier adults. Those are the medical facts. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653 Enjoy being a sheeple, do you? THINK for yourself instead of parroting junk talk with no substance. Breast feeding also benefits the mother. It creates a bond between mother and child that helps that baby's brain develop properly. The chemical response of breast feeding helps the mother lose weight and recover from pregnancy in half the time. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653 Uh, yeah, we've all been seeing how much of a "bond" it creates via the much-publicized "mothers" who bf kids who run in from the playground and ask for it. Those women clearly have mental and emotional issues and their parenting abilities and rights should be legally questioned. omg. How disturbing that ANY woman would think about that in connection to bf. You were mislead so forgive yourself. many have been misled, including some of my closest friends who are wonderful loving people. You can clearly see a difference between the 2 types of children. breast fed are healthier. FYI, sheeple use formula, you got it backwards. formula is full of poison, research it. NO ONE "misled" me . . . I know the facts. Your claims are without valid basis. Stop judging what you don't know. BS you are wrong, you are judging you mean ass witch. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16678904 United States11/16/2012 02:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't most breast milk these days be more toxic or poisonous than formula? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302306 My god, our diets are filled with gmo's, preservatives, chemicals...etc. unless a mother is hyper vigilant about her diet, and can afford to do so, I would put my money on formula these days. absolutely not, even if the mother eats McD every day, at least it's "filtered".. You can bet that everything you mention, is in that formula too. Why not?? b/c they "care" I can't believe that people wan't to try to find a way to believe that the GOD GIVEN method of feeding a child is not as good.. Just stuff an Iphone in their mouth. That will give them everything they need. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7338745 Canada11/16/2012 02:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7338745 Canada11/16/2012 02:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't most breast milk these days be more toxic or poisonous than formula? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302306 My god, our diets are filled with gmo's, preservatives, chemicals...etc. unless a mother is hyper vigilant about her diet, and can afford to do so, I would put my money on formula these days. Put your money towards the diet. They both you and the baby wins |
| HelloMcfly !! User ID: 23153177 United States11/16/2012 02:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so for one thing I am so sick of hearing SO MANY woman complain that their child wouldn't latch or their milk did not come in. I hear it so much ..it is called laziness on the mothers end.First, If the baby doesn't latch then buy a nipple shield( they do work because my second child who was severely tongue tied used one to latch.)( take a breast feeding course)... SECOND...your body will NATURALLY make milk. I have heard so many moms complain..blah blah my baby is not getting enough milk because he/she wants to eat every hour. HELLO MCFLY, some newborns eat VERY frequently. Also, if you are a mom who thinks their child is not getting enough milk, then you supplement with formula...YOUR BODY WILL NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH MILK. Now before you get your panties in a bunch...I was that mom with my first child. I made excuses for the formula..when actually with was operator momma error! |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23153177 United States11/16/2012 02:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so for one thing I am so sick of hearing SO MANY woman complain that their child wouldn't latch or their milk did not come in. I hear it so much ..it is called laziness on the mothers end.First, If the baby doesn't latch then buy a nipple shield( they do work because my second child who was severely tongue tied used one to latch.)( take a breast feeding course)... SECOND...your body will NATURALLY make milk. I have heard so many moms complain..blah blah my baby is not getting enough milk because he/she wants to eat every hour. HELLO MCFLY, some newborns eat VERY frequently. Also, if you are a mom who thinks their child is not getting enough milk, then you supplement with formula...YOUR BODY WILL NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH MILK. Now before you get your panties in a bunch...I was that mom with my first child. I made excuses for the formula..when actually with was operator momma error! Quoting: HelloMcfly !! 23153177 **when actually it was operator momma error |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5263120 United States11/16/2012 02:47 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Ok, so for one thing I am so sick of hearing SO MANY woman complain that their child wouldn't latch or their milk did not come in. I hear it so much ..it is called laziness on the mothers end.First, If the baby doesn't latch then buy a nipple shield( they do work because my second child who was severely tongue tied used one to latch.)( take a breast feeding course)... SECOND...your body will NATURALLY make milk. I have heard so many moms complain..blah blah my baby is not getting enough milk because he/she wants to eat every hour. HELLO MCFLY, some newborns eat VERY frequently. Also, if you are a mom who thinks their child is not getting enough milk, then you supplement with formula...YOUR BODY WILL NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH MILK. Now before you get your panties in a bunch...I was that mom with my first child. I made excuses for the formula..when actually with was operator momma error! Quoting: HelloMcfly !! 23153177 Ok, so for one thing I am so sick of hearing SO MANY woman complain that their child wouldn't latch or their milk did not come in. I hear it so much ..it is called laziness on the mothers end.First, If the baby doesn't latch then buy a nipple shield( they do work because my second child who was severely tongue tied used one to latch.)( take a breast feeding course)... SECOND...your body will NATURALLY make milk. I have heard so many moms complain..blah blah my baby is not getting enough milk because he/she wants to eat every hour. HELLO MCFLY, some newborns eat VERY frequently. Also, if you are a mom who thinks their child is not getting enough milk, then you supplement with formula...YOUR BODY WILL NOT PRODUCE ENOUGH MILK. Now before you get your panties in a bunch...I was that mom with my first child. I made excuses for the formula..when actually with was operator momma error! Quoting: HelloMcfly !! 23153177  |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16678904 United States11/16/2012 02:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just breastfeed. Just do it, if it is medically possible, do it. If the kid doesn't latch, get a pump. why is this an argument??? I don't get it! yeah, I'd rather feed my kid fish food out of a container made by big agra, rather than feed them what I know I ate, in good conscience, knowing I need to give them nutrition, just as I do myself. Vs what Monsanto made for them.. |
| scorpio66 User ID: 2453057 United States11/16/2012 02:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | oh, man, this topic makes me so irrationally mad im gonna have to stop opening this thread LOL Quoting: scorpio66 sure, censorship is better than a discussion. Also, for some of the other peeps: speak your mind, but there is no need for name-calling. well, hmpfh, if you knew me at all you'd know i'm far too nosy to stop looking. LOL but censorship? that's either absurd or a poor understanding of the meaning of the word on your part. i said i wasn't coming, didn't tell anyone else not to or to close down the topic or suppress it in any other way. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27851371 United States11/16/2012 02:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | . And no...you can't just give a baby straight cows milk...doesn't work like that. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19011623 Goats were traditional and worked very well. You could apply the baby directly to the goat, if the goat was enough of a pet. Pigs milk is ideal, but pigs are more likely to view a baby as a tasty treat. [link to en.wikipedia.org] "Goats have often been used to suckle human babies and infants. The Khoikhoi of southern Africa were reported to tie their babies to the bellies of female goats so that they could feed there" |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302306 United States11/16/2012 02:53 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't most breast milk these days be more toxic or poisonous than formula? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302306 My god, our diets are filled with gmo's, preservatives, chemicals...etc. unless a mother is hyper vigilant about her diet, and can afford to do so, I would put my money on formula these days. absolutely not, even if the mother eats McD every day, at least it's "filtered".. You can bet that everything you mention, is in that formula too. Why not?? b/c they "care" I can't believe that people wan't to try to find a way to believe that the GOD GIVEN method of feeding a child is not as good.. Just stuff an Iphone in their mouth. That will give them everything they need. hey ass wipe... I breast fed two sons until they were 12 months old. that was 20 years ago. I'm not trying to find a way to challenge the fact that an animals tits are meant to feed their young... I am saying that a WELL CHOSEN formula is probably a safer choice because our food supply is tainted... Women can find an organic/healthy formula... but they can't take the chemicals and hormones out of the food they can afford to eat. |
| cmoG530 User ID: 25565067 United States11/16/2012 02:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | 1 Timothy 3:16 KJV And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Mark 16:16 KJV He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned. Acts 2:38 KJV Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. Romans 8:6-9 KJV 6) For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. 7) Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 8) So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. 9) But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his. Matthew 15:8-9 KJV 8) This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. 9) But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. Acts 5:29 KJV Then Peter and the other apostles answered and said, We ought to obey God rather than men. "The biggest sign from God, to let us all know that man can never be God? Death." - Anonymous |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302306 United States11/16/2012 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't most breast milk these days be more toxic or poisonous than formula? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302306 My god, our diets are filled with gmo's, preservatives, chemicals...etc. unless a mother is hyper vigilant about her diet, and can afford to do so, I would put my money on formula these days. Put your money towards the diet. They both you and the baby wins yeah... tell that to the minimum wage families of the world. they'd have to work an hour to pay for a bag of organic carrots... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16678904 United States11/16/2012 02:57 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Just breastfeed. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16678904 Just do it, if it is medically possible, do it. If the kid doesn't latch, get a pump. why is this an argument??? I don't get it! yeah, I'd rather feed my kid fish food out of a container made by big agra, rather than feed them what I know I ate, in good conscience, knowing I need to give them nutrition, just as I do myself. Vs what Monsanto made for them.. also would like to add that my wife is a DIE HARD breast feeder. She has used the following to help production: Fenugreek? don't know how to spell it Lecithin (thins the milk and helps to prevent mastitis, increases flow) Mother's Milk (Tea at the supermarket, all herbal). Her nickname is Mommy Moo Cow.. I know, kinda harsh, but she laughs.. the pump even sounds like a cow.... just do what you gotta do. If you can, then by all means do, if you can't, then don't worry so much about it.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302306 United States11/16/2012 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Formula is the reason why girls hit puberty by the age of seven or eight and why boys hit puberty faster as well. Now we have kids having kids. Can't control the hormones. I'd never allow my child to ingest that mess. Quoting: cmoG530 ABSOLUTELY false. it is the hormones in the milk, eggs & poultry that is causing the early onset of puberty. in all the white papers I have ever read on the subject, baby formula has never been a factor. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27302306 United States11/16/2012 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Formula is the reason why girls hit puberty by the age of seven or eight and why boys hit puberty faster as well. Now we have kids having kids. Can't control the hormones. I'd never allow my child to ingest that mess. Quoting: cmoG530 ABSOLUTELY false. it is the hormones in the milk, eggs & poultry that is causing the early onset of puberty. in all the white papers I have ever read on the subject, baby formula has never been a factor. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7338745 Canada11/16/2012 02:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Almost all pharma companies will go as far as adding melamine in formula to artificially augment the protein content of it. Or did you think that just accidentally happened to Chinese babies? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16340594 Canada11/16/2012 03:00 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7338745 Canada11/16/2012 03:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't most breast milk these days be more toxic or poisonous than formula? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302306 My god, our diets are filled with gmo's, preservatives, chemicals...etc. unless a mother is hyper vigilant about her diet, and can afford to do so, I would put my money on formula these days. Put your money towards the diet. They both you and the baby wins yeah... tell that to the minimum wage families of the world. they'd have to work an hour to pay for a bag of organic carrots... just carrots is fine. How much is a can of formula again? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 6383062 United States11/16/2012 03:02 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yep. Emerging studies have shown that there is little difference between breast milk and formula. The only time breast milk is a benefit is when they are premature. My friends breastfed baby had all sorts of digestive issues, ended up with eczema, when the "research" says that is not supposed to happen. Why not get them used to the stuff they will eventually eat instead of it being such a shock to their system. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 11369766 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 16678904 United States11/16/2012 03:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | wouldn't most breast milk these days be more toxic or poisonous than formula? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27302306 My god, our diets are filled with gmo's, preservatives, chemicals...etc. unless a mother is hyper vigilant about her diet, and can afford to do so, I would put my money on formula these days. absolutely not, even if the mother eats McD every day, at least it's "filtered".. You can bet that everything you mention, is in that formula too. Why not?? b/c they "care" I can't believe that people wan't to try to find a way to believe that the GOD GIVEN method of feeding a child is not as good.. Just stuff an Iphone in their mouth. That will give them everything they need. hey ass wipe... I breast fed two sons until they were 12 months old. that was 20 years ago. I'm not trying to find a way to challenge the fact that an animals tits are meant to feed their young... I am saying that a WELL CHOSEN formula is probably a safer choice because our food supply is tainted... Women can find an organic/healthy formula... but they can't take the chemicals and hormones out of the food they can afford to eat. so you trust the same people making your food, aren't making your child's food?? got news for ya... The mom needs to at least be a FILTER. let me say it 10 times, in case you are too stupid.. FILTER, FILTER, FILTER, FILTER, FILTER, FILTER, FILTER, FILTER, FILTER, FILTER. Just like your drinking water in a well, or the stream above it, do you want to take the water off the top, or the water from the bottom of the well, that has been filtered through the rocks, over much time.. That is how nature works... apparently, you still trust the folks in the commercials. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27716231 United States11/16/2012 03:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the person saying that low-income families can't afford to eat the foods necessary for breastfeeding...that makes no sense to me. Breastfeeding is classically cheaper...as it is free...if anything, low-income families should avoid the steep prices of formula... |
| SewDucky User ID: 23684754 United States11/16/2012 03:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had 2 preemies. Both are fine. And I formula fed. One was normal formula, and then things changed 13 years later and my daughter was given a preemie formula for 6 months. My daughter stopped all formula at 8 months because she wanted food, my son was 11 months. While both hospitals pushed the "breast is best", neither of them actually offered any help/teaching for it and got pushed that I was going to formula feed (which I was asked about as I was pushing her out). Not only did I not produce enough milk to feed a kid, and it's been genetic in my family, I get chronic infections of my lymph nodes, including the breast, and a hyper active thyroid, neither of things I feel like adding to my children's system, even if I could have, not to mention that I have a history of PPD of which I was proactive and started an antidepressant immediately after birth. And I do take anxiety meds, and survive on coffee and nicotine. One thing everyone forgets to look at is bottle feeding (breast milk or formula) allows a father to also bond with their children. Dad's get forgotten in all these discussions, and feeding time can allow Dad to also bond with their children just like the mom. No one talks about the epidurals either. How many BF moms got one, or took pain pills after birth? I may have formula fed, but I had them 100% natural and didn't take anything after having them, to the point I was asked when I released myself 12 hours after having her to go to the NICU if I was even her birth mom. Pros and cons for the whole birth process, folks, from prenatal to birth to food. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27716231 United States11/16/2012 03:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ANY female who bfs beyond a very few months is then doing it for HERSELF - not the child. Quoting: itsamadmadworld Please enlighten us on what you would feed a young infant so it could receive all of it's essential nutrients since you seem to be the authority on what's natural for human babies. Cow's milk cannot be properly digested before age 1...and cow's milk is terrible for babies, children and adults alike. There's plenty of evidence of accelerated heart disease due to the large fat molecules in cow milk. Cow milk is also tainted with pus and infection so are you trying to say human milk is worse? I'm really curious what you would feed a baby since baby food is not enough for children...most children continue on a mainly dairy-based diet into the age of 2 and sometimes beyond. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27851371 United States11/16/2012 03:11 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the person saying that low-income families can't afford to eat the foods necessary for breastfeeding...that makes no sense to me. Breastfeeding is classically cheaper...as it is free...if anything, low-income families should avoid the steep prices of formula... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27716231 WIC provides breast feeding support [link to www.fns.usda.gov] "WIC mothers choosing to breastfeed are provided information through counseling and breastfeeding educational materials. Breastfeeding mothers receive follow-up support through peer counselors. Breastfeeding mothers are eligible to participate in WIC longer than non-breastfeeding mothers. Mothers who exclusively breastfeed their infants receive an enhanced food package. Breastfeeding mothers can receive breast pumps, breast shells or nursing supplementers to help support the initiation and continuation of breastfeeding" If this does not make some of our resident posters convert to breast feeding I do not know what will..;) [link to www.momlogic.com] " When it comes to breastfeeding, black mothers have somehow lost their way. For over 30 years, African-American women have had the lowest breastfeeding rates, and though the numbers have greatly increased in recent years, black moms still have the lowest rates of all ethnicities. And when it comes to the gold standard of infant nutrition -- six months of exclusive breastfeeding -- among African-Americans, the rate is only 20% compared to 40% among whites. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7338745 Canada11/16/2012 03:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I had 2 preemies. Both are fine. And I formula fed. One was normal formula, and then things changed 13 years later and my daughter was given a preemie formula for 6 months. My daughter stopped all formula at 8 months because she wanted food, my son was 11 months. Quoting: SewDucky While both hospitals pushed the "breast is best", neither of them actually offered any help/teaching for it and got pushed that I was going to formula feed (which I was asked about as I was pushing her out). Not only did I not produce enough milk to feed a kid, and it's been genetic in my family, I get chronic infections of my lymph nodes, including the breast, and a hyper active thyroid, neither of things I feel like adding to my children's system, even if I could have, not to mention that I have a history of PPD of which I was proactive and started an antidepressant immediately after birth. And I do take anxiety meds, and survive on coffee and nicotine. One thing everyone forgets to look at is bottle feeding (breast milk or formula) allows a father to also bond with their children. Dad's get forgotten in all these discussions, and feeding time can allow Dad to also bond with their children just like the mom. No one talks about the epidurals either. How many BF moms got one, or took pain pills after birth? I may have formula fed, but I had them 100% natural and didn't take anything after having them, to the point I was asked when I released myself 12 hours after having her to go to the NICU if I was even her birth mom. Pros and cons for the whole birth process, folks, from prenatal to birth to food. dads don't need to bond over the bottle. Spending time with the kid, holding them close so they get used to their smell, voice, heartbeat etc is a great way to bond. My husband would take by daughter for long walks in a pram and they would babytalk at each other. Today he is the only one who can calm her down as much as when I breastfeed her. You don't need to breastfeed to bond with your child. But that's a nature's way to give you something for free that others have work hard for. |
