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Sounds like this was the straw the broke the camel's back and they have been having a lot of other problems before this.
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Wait til he finds out how huge
her divorce settlement will be.
Good on her.
I wish her happiness in the future.
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I would got that far, but I be pissed off. Canada here
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
No reason to doubt this story.
Locally the gun store has been
the only business
booming since last Wednesday.

An old high school friend has an ex husand
who was told last Wed. morning the
oil/gas company he works for is
closing at thanksgiving and not opening again.
Express reason given...
They will have no choice but to close after January
because of new insurance requirements.
Asked employees to use the time before new year
to regroup and enjoy time with family.
Ex told her he is not so surprised.
it was coffee break talk all during election but when mentioned as a reality if OBCARE stands = BIG O re-elected.
The topic was dismissed with "stop being dramatic"

I'm a Gary Johnson 1%er. My husband may have wanted to divorce me if I had a hand in re electing obama. A vote for Obama was assuring the dividend check he has worked 30 years to earn will now be taxed at 40% instead of 15%.

THINK of the millions of self-funded retirees that didn't pay attention to the paupers wage of retirement offered by SS. So they BUILT THEIR OWN retirement dividend fund.
But now cost of living goes up...and the feds are going to TAKE 25% more of their hard earned investments...
TAKING the money retirees have budgeted their life around!!!

Fuck! I wouldn't sleep in the same bed with my spouse if I knew that person was too stupid and blind to realize the REAL and TRUE ramifications of this outcome. It would be clear I had made a mistake with the union. I would want to move on...

A house divided will not stand.

Our national house is torn to pieces.
We've got band aids on gaping wounds
and salt being poured into others...

Obama isn't the problem, the AGENDA is...
but someone's got to wear the suit.

happy holidays!
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your sister sounds dumb as hell lol
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since his employees don't have insurance.


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hes a bit of a fucking scab then isn't he?
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He is lucky they don't have kids
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OP, WHAT is he going to do when a client comes in and wants a big job done, and he CAN'T DO IT, because he doesn't HAVE and won't hire enough employees?...etc.
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He quite simply takes on temporary staff until the job is done. Duh. People who don't understand business should probably not comment on it.
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Isn't Operation Obama-care just Multinational Corporate Takeover?

Will there be lots of M&A in the future to bring the small businesses under the fold of these MCs?


I seem to remember President Reagan explaining this in a speech I listened to at some point in the past.
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Sounds like liberals in the US are about to learn the lesson that the people of Europe are being punished for ignoring: Neither governments not businesses have infinite money.
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OP, WHAT is he going to do when a client comes in and wants a big job done, and he CAN'T DO IT, because he doesn't HAVE and won't hire enough employees?? THEN word gets around that he's refusing jobs. AND screwing his employees.

He WILL end up going out of business anyway, OR take a BIG cut in 'his share' of the business (profit, OR lack of profit).

So OBVIOUSLY your Brother is a BAD businessman, and doesn't DESERVE to own and run a business of this scale, and should go back to working out of his garage.



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That's ridiculous. He won't have a business to begin with if he doesn't make the cutbacks.
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small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
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Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

And you just proved their point !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical libtard, totally divorced from reality and rational thinking.
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By the way, don't forget that the overarching goal of Obamacare has always been to have the government be the sole provider of health care, i.e. socializing our medical system. People who say that the plan originally passed isn't socialist are partially right. The GOAL is socialism, the OPENING GAMBIT is Obamacare.

Employers laying off staff and canceling private insurance coverage were part of the plan. The socialists running Washington at the moment rejoice with every announcement like this, because that many more people will be forced into the exchanges, which will eventually be absorbed into the federal health care system.
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OP, WHAT is he going to do when a client comes in and wants a big job done, and he CAN'T DO IT, because he doesn't HAVE and won't hire enough employees?? THEN word gets around that he's refusing jobs. AND screwing his employees.

He WILL end up going out of business anyway, OR take a BIG cut in 'his share' of the business (profit, OR lack of profit).

So OBVIOUSLY your Brother is a BAD businessman, and doesn't DESERVE to own and run a business of this scale, and should go back to working out of his garage.



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shill

I can't tell if this is serious or not.

Obama is a bad businessman. His policies have forced MANY small business to do the same thing. Did you not read that he would go in the red BEFORE salary if he kept the same amount of employees and had to pay the Obamacare fines?

I wonder how much unemployment will shoot up at the start of next year? I would say it will probably be a blockbuster month, 10% or more even with their rigged numbers.
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First of all thank God they don't have kids.

My sister has always been an entitled sort of person, learned that from our parents. They spoiled us. I had the sense to figure out the real world isn't like that.

She married a really good guy who owns a machine shop. He employs 57 people including office staff. He has made plans for a "what if" in case Obama was re-elected, he was pulling for Romney. Obama won and now he's at plan B, and he will have to let 8 people go before the end of the year to avoid the new Obamacare fines/taxes since his employees don't have insurance.

Now before you hate on this man, understand that after paying all his employees, expenses, taxes, maintenance, and upkeep/new equipment he clears about $140,000 per year. Some years more, some less. In the last 10 years he says his actual pay/salary fluctuated between $80K and $190K depending on contracts and business.

The cost of insuring his employees would be about $350,000 for a minimum basic plan. That would put him in the red even before himself taking a salary. He would have to close shop. If he paid the $2500 per employee fine that kicks in for employers with 50 or more employees, he would pay a fine/tax of $110,000. Meaning his expected take home salary/profit would be anywhere from a net loss of $30K to a positive salary of only $80K - the latter only if he has a banner year.

He is unwilling to take a chance with his own livelihood and gas already informed his employees of the coming cuts - two office personnel, and six machinists. They are upset but they understand his reasoning. Even the handful of Obama supporters at his shop seemed to suddenly "get it" o cw the reality hit them, that they could lose THEIR job because of Obamacare.

Which brings me to my sister.

My bro-in-law has had conversations with me, and with her, about how Obamacare will quite literally hurt his business and/or his ability to grow the company. He found out that she voted for Obama when he overheard her talking to a friend about the election. At first he was nonchalant about it, and asked her why and she told him "well it's good that he wants to help people".

After stewing over it a few days, he changed the locks while she was at work and put her stuff in a Uhaul truck. When she got home he had already had an attorney file divorce papers and since they had a pre-nup, she gets nothing.

I am having a hard time because I can't really blame him, but I love my sister. Although I cannot understand for the life of me why she would vote in a way that was so contrary to her personal interests.

Not sure what to think.
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Let me be the first.....

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To the OP:

Your sister obviously did not care about your brother-in-law. She knew that his business, and their joint livelihood would be hurt by this but she voted for Obama. Even a token gesture such as voting for anyone BUT Obama would be acceptable, I think, but voting for the very man that is harming his business?

He did the right thing, from the looks of it. Only a self-centered, ignorant liberal would cut off their own nose to spite their face as she did. No doubt she noticed his growing concern as the election came near, and no doubt he also expressed his concerns to her, which she tossed out in favor of voting in a feel-good president.

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Fucking god damn shills.

First, he's exempt on the first 30 employees IF he even has more than 50 workers. You state it will cost him $110,000 in fines. You lie. The total fine would be $67,500 based on 57 workers. A whopping $20 per week per employee.

Second, he's a loser if he has more than 50 employees and is only profiting $2k-$3k per worker.

Third, there's many tax breaks for small businesses that provide health care as any legit CPA would tell you.

Fourth, prices are going up and if he isn't raising prices, then that's his fault for not keeping up with the republican controlled federal reserve monetary policy of destroying the US dollar.

Fifth, no competently-run company that provides a useful service will be going out of business.

Sixth, your story is complete bullshit and full of inaccuracies.

Seventh, I hope a semi crashes into you head on.
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Bunch of sore losing crybabies!...etc.
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Not at all. You liberals just need to learn that your delusional fantasies have real-world consequences.

You voted for a free lunch, but there is no such thing. So, others will have to pay for it.

Liberals who object when businesses adjust to the realities of Obamacare are sore WINNERS. You can't stand the fact that the trophy for your win is economic failure, so you need to blame the people who tried to warn you.

You voted for this. Suck it up.
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First of all thank God they don't have kids.

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But do you, or any of your other siblings have children? That would make this guy an uncle.
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This is what marriage means these days.

This is why I'm not married.


It's a one in a billion chance to find a partner you will be satisfied with until the day you die....

(hell that's still 7 people out there somewhere....)
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First of all thank God they don't have kids.

My sister has always been an entitled sort of person, learned that from our parents. They spoiled us. I had the sense to figure out the real world isn't like that.

She married a really good guy who owns a machine shop. He employs 57 people including office staff. He has made plans for a "what if" in case Obama was re-elected, he was pulling for Romney. Obama won and now he's at plan B, and he will have to let 8 people go before the end of the year to avoid the new Obamacare fines/taxes since his employees don't have insurance.

Now before you hate on this man, understand that after paying all his employees, expenses, taxes, maintenance, and upkeep/new equipment he clears about $140,000 per year. Some years more, some less. In the last 10 years he says his actual pay/salary fluctuated between $80K and $190K depending on contracts and business.

The cost of insuring his employees would be about $350,000 for a minimum basic plan. That would put him in the red even before himself taking a salary. He would have to close shop. If he paid the $2500 per employee fine that kicks in for employers with 50 or more employees, he would pay a fine/tax of $110,000. Meaning his expected take home salary/profit would be anywhere from a net loss of $30K to a positive salary of only $80K - the latter only if he has a banner year.

He is unwilling to take a chance with his own livelihood and gas already informed his employees of the coming cuts - two office personnel, and six machinists. They are upset but they understand his reasoning. Even the handful of Obama supporters at his shop seemed to suddenly "get it" o cw the reality hit them, that they could lose THEIR job because of Obamacare.

Which brings me to my sister.

My bro-in-law has had conversations with me, and with her, about how Obamacare will quite literally hurt his business and/or his ability to grow the company. He found out that she voted for Obama when he overheard her talking to a friend about the election. At first he was nonchalant about it, and asked her why and she told him "well it's good that he wants to help people".

After stewing over it a few days, he changed the locks while she was at work and put her stuff in a Uhaul truck. When she got home he had already had an attorney file divorce papers and since they had a pre-nup, she gets nothing.

I am having a hard time because I can't really blame him, but I love my sister. Although I cannot understand for the life of me why she would vote in a way that was so contrary to her personal interests.

Not sure what to think.
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Bravo Zulu to your former brother-in-law.
Your sister is an imbecile.

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small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
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Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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The difference is hard to comprehend for you, but easily explained.

Conservatives usually put their money where their mouth is. Liberals take somebody else's money and put it into their own mouth.
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Yeah dream on neo con tard.
You fella's have this huge delusional superiority complex over anyone that disagrees with your nutty ideas.Too bad reality isn't always in your favor.

Wise up bubba..republican or democrat,they are all owned by the globalists.Electing Romney or Obama is one and the same seeing as they work for the same people.In other words this moron the OP is talking about just divorced his wife for a political game that was pretend from the beginning.

whoo hoo..go conservative family values!! :P
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small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
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Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

And you just proved their point !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Typical libtard, totally divorced from reality and rational thinking.
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Says the paranoid neo con wee tawds that think everyone is out to get them.You wouldn't know reality if it took a dump on your chest bubba.Your type are pretty good at entertaining delusional fantasies though.
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more to the line of shit you posted OP.
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The fine Is $750
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small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
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Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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Wow, very mature and civil of you.
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First of all thank God they don't have kids.

My sister has always been an entitled sort of person, learned that from our parents. They spoiled us. I had the sense to figure out the real world isn't like that.

She married a really good guy who owns a machine shop. He employs 57 people including office staff. He has made plans for a "what if" in case Obama was re-elected, he was pulling for Romney. Obama won and now he's at plan B, and he will have to let 8 people go before the end of the year to avoid the new Obamacare fines/taxes since his employees don't have insurance.

Now before you hate on this man, understand that after paying all his employees, expenses, taxes, maintenance, and upkeep/new equipment he clears about $140,000 per year. Some years more, some less. In the last 10 years he says his actual pay/salary fluctuated between $80K and $190K depending on contracts and business.

The cost of insuring his employees would be about $350,000 for a minimum basic plan. That would put him in the red even before himself taking a salary. He would have to close shop. If he paid the $2500 per employee fine that kicks in for employers with 50 or more employees, he would pay a fine/tax of $110,000. Meaning his expected take home salary/profit would be anywhere from a net loss of $30K to a positive salary of only $80K - the latter only if he has a banner year.

He is unwilling to take a chance with his own livelihood and gas already informed his employees of the coming cuts - two office personnel, and six machinists. They are upset but they understand his reasoning. Even the handful of Obama supporters at his shop seemed to suddenly "get it" o cw the reality hit them, that they could lose THEIR job because of Obamacare.

Which brings me to my sister.

My bro-in-law has had conversations with me, and with her, about how Obamacare will quite literally hurt his business and/or his ability to grow the company. He found out that she voted for Obama when he overheard her talking to a friend about the election. At first he was nonchalant about it, and asked her why and she told him "well it's good that he wants to help people".

After stewing over it a few days, he changed the locks while she was at work and put her stuff in a Uhaul truck. When she got home he had already had an attorney file divorce papers and since they had a pre-nup, she gets nothing.

I am having a hard time because I can't really blame him, but I love my sister. Although I cannot understand for the life of me why she would vote in a way that was so contrary to her personal interests.

Not sure what to think.
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even with a prenup she'll get half of what he earned when they were married

unless she was working too in which case she'll get half of what the family earned
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Hopefully the prenup wording excludes her from that. If not then whatever your state law says for income division (theres that word again - division).
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small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
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Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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We are - liberals are the terrorists doing the occupy wall street riots.

Punch me is da face bro... 'go ahead - make my day'.. and meet your demise.

Typical liberal thug.
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By the way, don't forget that the overarching goal of Obamacare has always been to have the government be the sole provider of health care,
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TOTAL bullshit, as The Affordable Care Act DOES NOT provide care, it forces people to GET INSURANCE, or be fined.

WHAT a fucking MoRaN!!!


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small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
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Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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