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Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 03:40 AM
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Fucking god damn shills.

First, he's exempt on the first 30 employees IF he even has more than 50 workers. You state it will cost him $110,000 in fines. You lie. The total fine would be $67,500 based on 57 workers. A whopping $20 per week per employee.

Second, he's a loser if he has more than 50 employees and is only profiting $2k-$3k per worker.

Third, there's many tax breaks for small businesses that provide health care as any legit CPA would tell you.

Fourth, prices are going up and if he isn't raising prices, then that's his fault for not keeping up with the republican controlled federal reserve monetary policy of destroying the US dollar.

Fifth, no competently-run company that provides a useful service will be going out of business.

Sixth, your story is complete bullshit and full of inaccuracies.

Seventh, I hope a semi crashes into you head on.
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someones got a brain ^^ this is a made up story...you suckers will believe anything.
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11/12/2012 03:43 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26023781


Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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Wow, very mature and civil of you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14898437


lol right..because firing employees just for voting democrat and threatening to suceed from the union is the height of maturity and civility isn't it neo con wee tawd? :P

You do hypocrisy well..as most neo cons do.
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
By the way, don't forget that the overarching goal of Obamacare has always been to have the government be the sole provider of health care,
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TOTAL bullshit, as The Affordable Care Act DOES NOT provide care, it forces people to GET INSURANCE, or be fined.

WHAT a fucking MoRaN!!!


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 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6685296
LOL! I see the reading comprehension of liberals on this board is a abysmal as anywhere else.

Nowhere did I say that Obamacare provides anything. I said it was an opening gambit to a long-term strategy of socializing US health care.

Learn to read before attacking others for making sense.

Of course, you being a liberal, your brain is impervious to facts and the truth, so not sure what learning to read would actually do for you. But you could always give it a go.
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11/12/2012 03:47 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26023781


Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
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Al Sharpton says "You a punk faggot! Now come on do sumpin'!"
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Al sharpton is a shill...
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11/12/2012 03:49 AM
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Fucking god damn shills.

First, he's exempt on the first 30 employees IF he even has more than 50 workers. You state it will cost him $110,000 in fines. You lie. The total fine would be $67,500 based on 57 workers. A whopping $20 per week per employee.

Second, he's a loser if he has more than 50 employees and is only profiting $2k-$3k per worker.

Third, there's many tax breaks for small businesses that provide health care as any legit CPA would tell you.

Fourth, prices are going up and if he isn't raising prices, then that's his fault for not keeping up with the republican controlled federal reserve monetary policy of destroying the US dollar.

Fifth, no competently-run company that provides a useful service will be going out of business.

Sixth, your story is complete bullshit and full of inaccuracies.

Seventh, I hope a semi crashes into you head on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27446380


someones got a brain ^^ this is a made up story...you suckers will believe anything.
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Agreed. Friggin hell, people.
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11/12/2012 03:53 AM
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bsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflagbsflag

You people will believe anything if it fits your political views. I thought this was supposed to be a haven of people thinking beyond lies and propaganda, not a bunch of sheep buying into every little piece of bullshit they read.
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11/12/2012 03:55 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
small business owners should start with firing obama voters, and she was no exception.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26023781


Whoo boy neo cons are such sore losers this time around.
First firing people for having different political opinions and now even talk of splitting from the union again.
I will personally smack the next neo con in real life in the face that I hear talk about how right wingers are so much more mature and civil that liberals.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27575337


We are - liberals are the terrorists doing the occupy wall street riots.

Punch me is da face bro... 'go ahead - make my day'.. and meet your demise.

Typical liberal thug.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24238594


Hey buddy boy..have any democrats shot out politicians windows or made assasination attempts lately?

Ya know...kinda like neo cons shot at the white house,shot at his campaign head quarters,and got arrested for plotting an assasination attempt.

Neo con wee tawds sure do have selective memory.they have to,other wise they couldn't hold together the delusion of them being the God and country party.
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idiot ^ lol... both parties are the same, you nimrod! you believe everything they tell you on msm, huh
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11/12/2012 04:02 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
Fucking god damn shills.

First, he's exempt on the first 30 employees IF he even has more than 50 workers. You state it will cost him $110,000 in fines. You lie. The total fine would be $67,500 based on 57 workers. A whopping $20 per week per employee.

Second, he's a loser if he has more than 50 employees and is only profiting $2k-$3k per worker.

Third, there's many tax breaks for small businesses that provide health care as any legit CPA would tell you.

Fourth, prices are going up and if he isn't raising prices, then that's his fault for not keeping up with the republican controlled federal reserve monetary policy of destroying the US dollar.

Fifth, no competently-run company that provides a useful service will be going out of business.

Sixth, your story is complete bullshit and full of inaccuracies.

Seventh, I hope a semi crashes into you head on.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27446380


someones got a brain ^^ this is a made up story...you suckers will believe anything.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27449896
The story is entirely plausible. It's interesting that this post not only clearly divides liberals from conservatives, it also clearly divides people who understand business from those who don't.

It's blatantly obvious that the owner of a business would have consulted accountants and lawyers before coming to the conclusions stated in the OP, so that shoots down those points.

Trying to judge the company's performance based on net profit per employee is ridiculous. You need to know other aspects of the business's P&L and overall business plan, as well as details about their target market to make any sort of accurate assessment, so that point is gone.

Competently-run businesses that provide useful services go out of business all the time due to external factors. Literally tens of thousands of businesses have said they will downsize, relocate or close because of Obamacare, and the press ran articles about a rash of company sales over the summer in anticipation of an Obama win. That point is wishful thinking that flies in the face of all the evidence, so that's done.

Finally, the Federal Reserve was instituted by Wilson (Democrat/Progressive/Socialist) and has been overseen by a Democrat-controlled Congress for 5 years. We are now in a mode of perpetual QE to the tune of $40 billion/month and I don't remember any Republican Congressman, let alone any other party, from voting for that.

Perhaps he has a brain, but using it to keep his ears from meeting in the middle is an option he should consider.

The chickens of Obamacare are coming home to roost. Funny how liberals liked that concept when Jeremiah Wright used it to hate on America, but can't stand it when confronted with the consequences of their own idiotic notions.

You voted for this. Suck it up.
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11/12/2012 04:06 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
lol right..because firing employees just for voting democrat...
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That's not what he's doing. Try reading the OP repeatedly until the concept of "reducing staff to offset a definite future rise in expenses" gets through.
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11/12/2012 04:07 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
good for him...
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11/12/2012 04:16 AM
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Your brother-in-law sounds like a great man.

Here's hoping he starts hitting the town and gets himself some new young arm candy.
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This, but to divorce the woman on the bases she is a sheep, and voted for Obama is shocking. Does this fella actually think that under Romney, it would have been any different?
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11/12/2012 04:33 AM
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She gona get some black dick as revenge and spend the her husbands money the judge will give her on gucci and hermes bags and red bottomshoes and get a black baby and be happy


End of story
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11/12/2012 04:36 AM
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Your going to see many more of these made up stories as time goes on.
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11/12/2012 04:50 AM
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Your going to see many more of these made up stories as time goes on.
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Does there come a point where these stories will scare the Obama administration into seizing the businesses and assets of these people, to prevent economic terrorism?

It seems to me that it's a clear set up. Shills come and post fake stories, until some schmuck actually losses his head and starts firing people based on who they voted for. Then to prevent the terroristic actions (and by definition they are that)from harming the economy, the government comes in, arrests the enemies of the people at the top and takes their businesses, to keep people employed.

Yeah, it could happen.

Probably won't, but you have to ask yourself, do you trust Obama enough to risk not just your business, but freedom, on a direct level?

Worse, he could be a great guy and still end up backed into a corner by made up tales like this.

Perma-pinned to help make certain you see it, even though it's almost certainly made up?
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11/12/2012 04:55 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
The pre-nup is pretty iron clad from what she told me. He owned the business and the house before the marriage, outright. She hasn't been involved with the business at all and has worked her own job. That's why she is freaking out. She told me she signed the pre-nup because she wanted to be with him and wanted to live comfortable. We are all in Texas and the laws are pretty clear when all the property was owned by him before the marriage. She might get some cash but that's about it. He's aid they have about $15,000 in savings so she might get $7500.
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11/12/2012 04:56 AM
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Dumbest reason to ever get a divorce lol

Fool!
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Actually, it isn't - families should stick together. If she really loved him, she would have been concerned about his business. I don't get why so many women voted for Obama. I mean...really? What's wrong with them? BTW, I am a woman.
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Your going to see many more of these made up stories as time goes on.
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LOL! All these stories are made up too: [link to www.dailyjobcuts.com]
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11/12/2012 05:02 AM
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Dumbest reason to ever get a divorce lol

Fool!
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Are you kidding?

Your wife demonstrates that she doesn't give a rat's ass about something that is VERY harmful to you?

Funny that you are calling others "fool".
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He is right, that is a very dumb reason to get a divorce. People get divorced because one spouse cheated or because they just fight so much they can't reconcile, not because one spouse didn't vote the way the other wanted her to vote.

I mean what's up with this guy, he sounds like a control freak. And no need to fire people btw, he could instead cut their hours or hire them part-time, and then they wouldn't fall under Obama care.
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She's a real hypocrite. Reminds me of Reardon's wife in the Atlas Shrugged movie.
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11/12/2012 05:10 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
My sister has always been an entitled sort of person,
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That line said it all. He is better off without her. No offense to you.
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11/12/2012 05:19 AM
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This is why I'm not married.


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I'm guessing there are other reasons, ace.
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11/12/2012 05:23 AM
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Don't think that was true love anyway.

But, another good reason not to vote!
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11/12/2012 05:29 AM
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Dumbest reason to ever get a divorce lol

Fool!
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Are you kidding?

Your wife demonstrates that she doesn't give a rat's ass about something that is VERY harmful to you?

Funny that you are calling others "fool".
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16703657



He is right, that is a very dumb reason to get a divorce. People get divorced because one spouse cheated or because they just fight so much they can't reconcile, not because one spouse didn't vote the way the other wanted her to vote.

I mean what's up with this guy, he sounds like a control freak. And no need to fire people btw, he could instead cut their hours or hire them part-time, and then they wouldn't fall under Obama care.
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He's not a control freak.

Granted her vote wouldn't change anything, but the OP/brother said she was an "entitled" sort.

That alone is reason to giver her the boot.

I can understand building and running a business, and then having to deal with a spouse who is flippant and uncaring about the same business that is putting food in her mouth and clothes on her back.

I could not live with someone like that; I can see why it was the last straw for him.

And I'm not a Romney or bama fan.
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11/12/2012 05:43 AM
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Wow! Talk about a nation divided...
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11/12/2012 05:45 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
First of all thank God they don't have kids.

My sister has always been an entitled sort of person, learned that from our parents. They spoiled us. I had the sense to figure out the real world isn't like that.

She married a really good guy who owns a machine shop. He employs 57 people including office staff. He has made plans for a "what if" in case Obama was re-elected, he was pulling for Romney. Obama won and now he's at plan B, and he will have to let 8 people go before the end of the year to avoid the new Obamacare fines/taxes since his employees don't have insurance.

Now before you hate on this man, understand that after paying all his employees, expenses, taxes, maintenance, and upkeep/new equipment he clears about $140,000 per year. Some years more, some less. In the last 10 years he says his actual pay/salary fluctuated between $80K and $190K depending on contracts and business.

The cost of insuring his employees would be about $350,000 for a minimum basic plan. That would put him in the red even before himself taking a salary. He would have to close shop. If he paid the $2500 per employee fine that kicks in for employers with 50 or more employees, he would pay a fine/tax of $110,000. Meaning his expected take home salary/profit would be anywhere from a net loss of $30K to a positive salary of only $80K - the latter only if he has a banner year.

He is unwilling to take a chance with his own livelihood and gas already informed his employees of the coming cuts - two office personnel, and six machinists. They are upset but they understand his reasoning. Even the handful of Obama supporters at his shop seemed to suddenly "get it" o cw the reality hit them, that they could lose THEIR job because of Obamacare.

Which brings me to my sister.

My bro-in-law has had conversations with me, and with her, about how Obamacare will quite literally hurt his business and/or his ability to grow the company. He found out that she voted for Obama when he overheard her talking to a friend about the election. At first he was nonchalant about it, and asked her why and she told him "well it's good that he wants to help people".

After stewing over it a few days, he changed the locks while she was at work and put her stuff in a Uhaul truck. When she got home he had already had an attorney file divorce papers and since they had a pre-nup, she gets nothing.

I am having a hard time because I can't really blame him, but I love my sister. Although I cannot understand for the life of me why she would vote in a way that was so contrary to her personal interests.

Not sure what to think.
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even with a prenup she'll get half of what he earned when they were married

unless she was working too in which case she'll get half of what the family earned
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why would she get half of what they both already spent?
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11/12/2012 05:56 AM
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GOOD IDEA!

all men whom know their wife voted for oabama DIVORCE!
best you can do!
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11/12/2012 05:59 AM
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No thats fucking stupid. So is he going to ask every woman he dates who she voted for?
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11/12/2012 06:06 AM
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Fucking god damn shills.

First, he's exempt on the first 30 employees IF he even has more than 50 workers. You state it will cost him $110,000 in fines. You lie. The total fine would be $67,500 based on 57 workers. A whopping $20 per week per employee.

Second, he's a loser if he has more than 50 employees and is only profiting $2k-$3k per worker.

Third, there's many tax breaks for small businesses that provide health care as any legit CPA would tell you.

Fourth, prices are going up and if he isn't raising prices, then that's his fault for not keeping up with the republican controlled federal reserve monetary policy of destroying the US dollar.

Fifth, no competently-run company that provides a useful service will be going out of business.

Sixth, your story is complete bullshit and full of inaccuracies.

Seventh, I hope a semi crashes into you head on.
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hats off to you bud. glad to see some intelligence on this thread. sadly people seem to be ignoring your post.
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11/12/2012 06:06 AM
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your bro in law sounds like a real asshole, and you seem like a pathetic 'brother'
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11/12/2012 06:08 AM
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Re: Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(
LOL at your made up story.

The time for your lies was before Election Day..

What Republicon think tank is paying you to shill here liar?
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Some people (OP) are just ignorant.

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