Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :( | |
| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 11/12/2012 08:12 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I'd divorce anybody voting for o. They just would not be compatible. This is not some, "Oh, come on, honey" issue. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27566034 i wouldn't marry anyone voting for zero in the first place. does anyone think that these two are breaking up over an election? i think there were probably many problems, mostly incompatiblitity and the producer vs. parasite mentality which existed long before the event of 0, but this last vote brought those problems to a point where they could no longer be ignored. i hope your brother-in-law does well and can save his business. i couldn't care less about your sister. she and the dreck of society has landed us all in shit up to her eyeballs. when i see my kids having to deal with this shit, i won't curse obama, i will curse the morons who put him there. "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24046300 11/12/2012 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | All of these small business that are bitching about the cost of Obama care should take a long hard look at their own cheapness toward their employees. If they stay in business by denying basic health coverage to most or all of their employees - while of course providing it to themselves and their families - then maybe they should not be in business. Seriously, if the ONLY way you can make it is to force other to suffer and do without - then maybe you should think about what's wrong with your fundamental business model.Most of these businesses that are screaming about the cost of Obama Care are those who've had the owners milking the place dry for years and refusing to meet the market with health coverage for their staff to safe money which of course they put into their own pockets. Ever notice how the owner and his wife always have nice pricey new cars? Or their kids are in private schools. Yet they ask their employees to work less than 30 hours per weeks o they won't have to provide health insurance for them? Quoting: MarkinAZ Your sister is well lucky to be rid of this bastard! And she should get a good lawyer and make sure she keeps half of the business. She sounds like she's earned it putting up with him! Shouldn't you be in school right now? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23011194 11/12/2012 08:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's best to distance yourself from anyone who voted for barry. When food gets scarce they will turn you in at the drop of a hat. So and so owns firearms or has more than 7 days of food in his house. Get far, far away from those morons..... |
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| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 11/12/2012 08:25 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She gets the bigger slice of the "idiot pie", but he voted for Romney, so he took a few bites himself. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 68945 Let's be clear about something, if you didn't vote Liberal you DONE GOOFED. please notice which in the family was the most productive and contributed to the economy? it isn't social manicuring obama voter it is the man who provided 57 people with jobs and would have liked to continue that, but can't now. "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal. |
| Factual Error User ID: 19116606 11/12/2012 08:25 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet your brother-in-law has had health insurance for himself and his family this whole time. If he were a decent businessman, he would have been providing his employees with health insurance all along, and Obamacare wouldn't impact him very much. Not intended to be a factual statement. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27586778 11/12/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet your brother-in-law has had health insurance for himself and his family this whole time. Quoting: Factual Error If he were a decent businessman, he would have been providing his employees with health insurance all along, and Obamacare wouldn't impact him very much. You are one dumb fuck. It's HIS business. He provides jobs. It's not his obligation to provide health insurance, you little cretin. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27580672 11/12/2012 08:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet your brother-in-law has had health insurance for himself and his family this whole time. Quoting: Factual Error If he were a decent businessman, he would have been providing his employees with health insurance all along, and Obamacare wouldn't impact him very much. You are operating under the assumption that all small businessmen are Scrooges who can afford health care for all employees, but don't because they are evil small businessmen. What you don't get is that they can't, because it is simply too expensive. If they don't turn a profit, the company closes, and everone working there loses their jobs. Money is simply not conjured up out of thin air, despite what much of the population thinks. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7061022 11/12/2012 08:31 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he already had a Romney girlfriend supporter on the side. Probably the only excuse he could use to dump her. If he loved, her, he would try to rationalize with her. So a divorce is a good thing before they have kids. |
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Lady Jane Smith![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 23410866 11/12/2012 08:37 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Who will pay for your Obummer-care when the tax base has dwindled??? Libtards just do not understand that there is NO free lunch. Somebody pays for your free shit. Who will be crying then? You will! Now..... Don't bet on it. Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided. "Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." -- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23393274 11/12/2012 08:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area. We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I. It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof. I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. 1932 Germany all over again. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27580672 11/12/2012 08:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he already had a Romney girlfriend supporter on the side. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7061022 Probably the only excuse he could use to dump her. If he loved, her, he would try to rationalize with her. So a divorce is a good thing before they have kids. You can't rationalize with an Obot Im not a lib or neo-con, but you are correct that you cannot rationalize with a lib. There is a fire-wall in their head that no logic can penetrate. They simply will not listen to facts. I tried to tell a woman once not to go into a certain area of town, as it was a "bad" area. Her response was "Oh, you are a racist, but I like those people.." She wound up getting puched in the face, losing 2 teeth, and robbed of everything. I just told her, "you were lucky.." and walked away. I doubt she even gets it now. Nothing gets thru to them, ever. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23011194 11/12/2012 08:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274 We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I. It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof. I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. 1932 Germany all over again. yeah, there's no way I'd invest in or start up any kind of business in the USA. This country is slated for civil war.... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27580672 11/12/2012 08:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274 We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I. It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof. I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. 1932 Germany all over again. Try 1917 Russia. |
| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 11/12/2012 08:46 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I bet your brother-in-law has had health insurance for himself and his family this whole time. Quoting: Factual Error If he were a decent businessman, he would have been providing his employees with health insurance all along, and Obamacare wouldn't impact him very much. you are what is wrong with our society. the people who went to work for this man knew in advance that health insurance was not a part of the deal. they chose to accept the job anyway and now obama has change the ground rules and the business owner must make adjustments. according to you the job provider is the selfish one while those who chose not to take responsibility for themselves are somehow virtuous? the world is upside down. no one owes another person healthcare it is not a right, it is a personal repsonsibility. i know people like you can not accept that concept, but it is a fact. we already have a system which provides healthcare for the poor and the elderly, but now we are adding healthy able body people to an already broken system. nothing good will come of this it will merely crash the system and ruin it for everyone even those who were responsible to care for themselves. "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27304459 11/12/2012 08:46 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I guess the feeling was mutual. She showed how much she really cared about him. And he found out. Now she can find someone more compatible. I can't see why she would be upset, since she didn't really care about him or the business. She'll get over it. Or, she'll realize too late what she lost. How else can she learn not to feel so entitled? Talking to her didn't help, she needs some real life experience. |
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| davvi Doe: A Female Rabbit User ID: 3677166 11/12/2012 08:48 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274 We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I. It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof. I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. 1932 Germany all over again. i wish i could find something wrong with what you wrote, i can not. "Arguing with a leftist is like playing chess with a pigeon. No matter how good you are at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board and strut around like its victorious." “I am the senator. You are the citizen. You need to be quiet.” Senator Tommy Tucker and your tax dollars at work. Scared yet? The people who rob Peter to pay Paul can always count on Paul's support. Obama's Death Panels: Cruel and Unusual punishment for people whose only crime is getting old or getting sick. The IRS used to investigate criminals, under Obama the IRS is the criminal. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27304459 11/12/2012 08:59 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274 We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I. It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof. I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. 1932 Germany all over again. i wish i could find something wrong with what you wrote, i can not. The pro/anti Obama phenomenon was worldwide. All those foreign governments, probably including Norway's government, were pushing hard for Obama to win. And foreign public opinion polls showed Obama much desired. But the foreign business people are the same as any other business people, and they know he'll gum up the USA and make it a place to avoid. |
| Sickandtired User ID: 17058124 11/12/2012 09:04 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | OP, WHAT is he going to do when a client comes in and wants a big job done, and he CAN'T DO IT, because he doesn't HAVE and won't hire enough employees?? THEN word gets around that he's refusing jobs. AND screwing his employees. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 6685296 He WILL end up going out of business anyway, OR take a BIG cut in 'his share' of the business (profit, OR lack of profit). So OBVIOUSLY your Brother is a BAD businessman, and doesn't DESERVE to own and run a business of this scale, and should go back to working out of his garage. . ![]() I can't tell if this is serious or not. Obama is a bad businessman. His policies have forced MANY small business to do the same thing. Did you not read that he would go in the red BEFORE salary if he kept the same amount of employees and had to pay the Obamacare fines? I wonder how much unemployment will shoot up at the start of next year? I would say it will probably be a blockbuster month, 10% or more even with their rigged numbers. He would only have to pay $2000 per employee, (over 30 employees) so that is 17, $34,000, and that is if his business does not meet all requirements to opt out. Quit spreading lies, you know these people do not research anything for themselves. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23393274 11/12/2012 09:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274 We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I. It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof. I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better. 1932 Germany all over again. Try 1917 Russia. Yes, kind of a toss-up between the two. The idiots that voted for Zero however are only slightly more stupid than the numbskulls in the Republican party that allowed Romney to get the nomination. The man has the personality of fresh road kill. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27304459 11/12/2012 09:12 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It makes perfect sense to go under 50 employees. Maybe some aspect of his business can be reopened as a separate corporation and employees transferred to there -- is it possible to avoid the extra tax this way. The employer has absolutely no obligation to do things that hurt his business or his income. Same as a taxpayer has no obligation to pay any more tax than necessary. If there's a way around a cost, that's legal, that's what a successful business will go for. It's all the "you didn't build that" mentality. Sister was married to him, and she still didn't understand that he DID build that. So this is what happens to slow learners. |
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