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Bro-in law divorcing my sister because she voted Obama! Obamacare could shut him down :(

 
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I do not believe it says anywhere in the bill that the employer must PAY for the coverage only that they must offer the coverage.

Quit trying to stir the pot.
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If you offer it and an employee accepts it, then you must pay for it.

Is that clear enough?
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No the employee pays it, that clear enough?
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she was already having an affair with oblahblah, and getting and expecting more presents from him.
Women want the biggest boy in the room, they may understand that he's really unavailable, but they always HOPE that will CHANGE for their benefit.
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And yeah, people don't know how much it's gonna hurt businesses...

A LOT... AND I MEAN A LOT of businesses are gonna close shop in 2013...


IMO unemployment will be at least 10%+ officially (unless they cook the numbers really hard) at the end of 2013.
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Shill, officially they are already way above that
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Only 3 states have unemployment rates below 10%, Nebraska, Noth and South Dakota...National rate is 14-17%
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She has a job, she does hair/manicures but she pretty much took that up for the social part of it. She only makes about $30K a year herself and pretty much was happy to live off her husband. That's why I can't understand why she voted in a manner that would hurt her husband's business, even if her one vote didn't affect the outcome. By the way, he's not the kind if guy to demand she do anything. He's angry because he knew that SHE knew how Obamacare would hurt the company, which would not only hurt him and her, but his workers. He's really upset about having to cut people, but he has no choice.
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She has a job, she does hair/manicures but she pretty much took that up for the social part of it. She only makes about $30K a year herself and pretty much was happy to live off her husband. That's why I can't understand why she voted in a manner that would hurt her husband's business, even if her one vote didn't affect the outcome. By the way, he's not the kind if guy to demand she do anything. He's angry because he knew that SHE knew how Obamacare would hurt the company, which would not only hurt him and her, but his workers. He's really upset about having to cut people, but he has no choice.
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hope she enjoys her lowered lifestyle!
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Sounds like she considers Obama to be her husband.
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By the way, don't forget that the overarching goal of Obamacare has always been to have the government be the sole provider of health care,
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TOTAL bullshit, as The Affordable Care Act DOES NOT provide care, it forces people to GET INSURANCE, or be fined.

WHAT a fucking MoRaN!!!


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LOL! I see the reading comprehension of liberals on this board is a abysmal as anywhere else.

Nowhere did I say that Obamacare provides anything. I said it was an opening gambit to a long-term strategy of socializing US health care.

Learn to read before attacking others for making sense.

Of course, you being a liberal, your brain is impervious to facts and the truth, so not sure what learning to read would actually do for you. But you could always give it a go.
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The LOGIC!!!! It HU-U-U-URTS!!!!!

And there ARE provisions in that abominable Bill which say that hospitals cannot expand without getting the Gubb'mint's permission, and also how much doctors and other health-care workers get paid. That is one reason why we will see/are seeing a sudden wave of retirements amongst doctors.
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I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area.

We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I.

It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof.
I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

1932 Germany all over again.
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Try 1917 Russia.
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Yes, kind of a toss-up between the two.

The idiots that voted for Zero however are only slightly more stupid than the numbskulls in the Republican party that allowed Romney to get the nomination. The man has the personality of fresh road kill.
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FAR less interested in ones personality than expertice and the ability to do the proper job.
This isnt a grade one school election or popularity contest, this is about having someone understand and to the proper job for the nation.
Isnt there some muzzie run council flats in your nation you should be paying attention to? How are your muzzie friends personalities? I bet theyre positively riveting
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Sounds like she considers Obama to be her husband.
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all liberals, man or woman wants oblamer for a husband or a daddy
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I can relate to this thread because my brother has publicly stated that he disowns any family member or friend who voted for Obama. This is tearing the family apart because he verbally attacked my oldest son because he "assumed" that he would vote Obama. Now I am torn between never seeing my brother again if I support my son against this attack. Either way, family get together events will certainly be smaller now. So sad. I agree with my brother's desire to defend the country, but not at the cost of losing family. He might have some affect on saving the country, but he will bask in the glory alone.
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No thats fucking stupid. So is he going to ask every woman he dates who she voted for?
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Well, given the current polarization of the Country, it seems like that could be one of those all-important "dealbreaker" questions.

I'd bet a LOT of men and women will be enquiring of their (possible) intended.
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I can relate to this thread because my brother has publicly stated that he disowns any family member or friend who voted for Obama. This is tearing the family apart because he verbally attacked my oldest son because he "assumed" that he would vote Obama. .
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So how did your son vote, and why did your bro assume that?
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I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area.

We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I.

It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof.
I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

1932 Germany all over again.
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Try 1917 Russia.
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Yes, kind of a toss-up between the two.

The idiots that voted for Zero however are only slightly more stupid than the numbskulls in the Republican party that allowed Romney to get the nomination. The man has the personality of fresh road kill.
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FAR less interested in ones personality than expertice and the ability to do the proper job.
This isnt a grade one school election or popularity contest, this is about having someone understand and to the proper job for the nation.
Isnt there some muzzie run council flats in your nation you should be paying attention to? How are your muzzie friends personalities? I bet theyre positively riveting

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Just the kind of mindless comment I would expect out of an Obama lover. I am American, and I have no muzzie friends and have not a clue what you are babbling about. Obviously a product of the liberal dumbing down of the American educational system.
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A prenump.......?

The guy has issues.........fuck him. Who the fuck marries with expectation of a potential divorce?


That is NOT marriage, it is an obamanation of marriage.

Yes, I spelled it Obamanation.

Because this Obama Nation is an Abomination!!!!
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SANE RICH PEOPLE??
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Really, you are going to tell your life long partner you have a slight fear they may take your money and run?

If the person fears it might be a possibility, DO NOT GET MARRIED YET!!!!
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Well, Voltaic, given that over 50% of the marriages in the U.S. end in divorce, it seems like a logical thing to do if EITHER party has pre-existing wealth.

I agree with you philosophically, but doesn't EVERYONE go into a marriage believing (and hoping) that they will not join the dismal statistics? It won't EVER happen to them, because they are so in LO-O-OVE! And then a few months/years later they are moaning about how their ex ripped them a new anal orifice.
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lol

And a pre-nup so she gets nothing? Don't she have a job??
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do any Obama supporters have jobs? there's your answer
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I am in Norway, working on a project that would bring over 400 manufacturing jobs to the Florida panhandle area.

We have been since the election seriously considering not doing the project in the U.S. From being here I see what happens in a socialist run economy. Our investors are not interested in getting caught in that trap nor am I.

It is obvious that Obama is going to make it extremely difficult for employers and run labor costs through the roof.
I think the man hates America and is intent on destroying it so I am sure things are going to get a lot worse before they get better.

1932 Germany all over again.
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Back in college I dated a Norwegian whose father owned a large ship building business

I heard so many stories about how destructive the socialists were...and how the grandfather (who founded the company) was on the edge of taking his company to Singapore just to escaspe the socialists who kept raising taxes on the business, made it very difficult to hire temporary help and basically treated this family - who provided close to 70% of the jobs in this one town - like evil scrooges, no matter what they did

I think that since then they did indeed move their ship building business to Asia, leaving only some aspects back in Norway

As a young left leaning student, at the time I thought that sounded 'mean', but the older I get and now running a business myself for 15 years, I understand entirely how they felt

That is the problem, young people are almost always idealistic, but naive. They truly don't understand the difficulty of running a company, the razor thin margins, the weight of regulations and the climbing taxes and fees, even as the economy has trained people to expect ever lower prices. They do not understand why we need to have a cash cushion against down months...instead they think business owners should be spending nearly every dime of profit.

I sometimes think socialists are people who were either spoiled as children or wished they had been...they want to believe there is a big daddy with an unlimited bank account who can make sure they don't have to face the hard realities of life
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Only 3 states have unemployment rates below 10%, Nebraska, Noth and South Dakota...National rate is 14-17%
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You forgot Texas, between 6.8 and 7.1%, one of the lowest in the country...over 50% of all new jobs are created in TX, and I believe Tarrant County led the country in US job creation for 18 consecutive months

According to Google, Texas unemployment rate today:

6.8% of the labor force - Seasonally Adjusted - Sep 2012
Source: U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics


[link to www.google.com]

[link to dfw.cbslocal.com]

The Texas Workforce Commission says statewide unemployment held steady in August at 7.1 percent.

Commission officials in Austin on Friday said the July jobless rate was revised down from 7.2 to 7.1 percent. The August 2011 unemployment rate in Texas was 8.1 percent.

The Midland area had the lowest jobless rate in Texas last month at 3.8 percent.
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First of all thank God they don't have kids.

My sister has always been an entitled sort of person, learned that from our parents. They spoiled us. I had the sense to figure out the real world isn't like that.

She married a really good guy who owns a machine shop. He employs 57 people including office staff. He has made plans for a "what if" in case Obama was re-elected, he was pulling for Romney. Obama won and now he's at plan B, and he will have to let 8 people go before the end of the year to avoid the new Obamacare fines/taxes since his employees don't have insurance.

Now before you hate on this man, understand that after paying all his employees, expenses, taxes, maintenance, and upkeep/new equipment he clears about $140,000 per year. Some years more, some less. In the last 10 years he says his actual pay/salary fluctuated between $80K and $190K depending on contracts and business.

The cost of insuring his employees would be about $350,000 for a minimum basic plan. That would put him in the red even before himself taking a salary. He would have to close shop. If he paid the $2500 per employee fine that kicks in for employers with 50 or more employees, he would pay a fine/tax of $110,000. Meaning his expected take home salary/profit would be anywhere from a net loss of $30K to a positive salary of only $80K - the latter only if he has a banner year.

He is unwilling to take a chance with his own livelihood and gas already informed his employees of the coming cuts - two office personnel, and six machinists. They are upset but they understand his reasoning. Even the handful of Obama supporters at his shop seemed to suddenly "get it" o cw the reality hit them, that they could lose THEIR job because of Obamacare.

Which brings me to my sister.

My bro-in-law has had conversations with me, and with her, about how Obamacare will quite literally hurt his business and/or his ability to grow the company. He found out that she voted for Obama when he overheard her talking to a friend about the election. At first he was nonchalant about it, and asked her why and she told him "well it's good that he wants to help people".

After stewing over it a few days, he changed the locks while she was at work and put her stuff in a Uhaul truck. When she got home he had already had an attorney file divorce papers and since they had a pre-nup, she gets nothing.

I am having a hard time because I can't really blame him, but I love my sister. Although I cannot understand for the life of me why she would vote in a way that was so contrary to her personal interests.

Not sure what to think.
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That's Liberals in a nut shell. They think money is free.
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She has a job, she does hair/manicures but she pretty much took that up for the social part of it. She only makes about $30K a year herself and pretty much was happy to live off her husband. That's why I can't understand why she voted in a manner that would hurt her husband's business, even if her one vote didn't affect the outcome. By the way, he's not the kind if guy to demand she do anything. He's angry because he knew that SHE knew how Obamacare would hurt the company, which would not only hurt him and her, but his workers. He's really upset about having to cut people, but he has no choice.
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She has a job, she does hair/manicures but she pretty much took that up for the social part of it. She only makes about $30K a year herself and pretty much was happy to live off her husband. That's why I can't understand why she voted in a manner that would hurt her husband's business, even if her one vote didn't affect the outcome. By the way, he's not the kind if guy to demand she do anything. He's angry because he knew that SHE knew how Obamacare would hurt the company, which would not only hurt him and her, but his workers. He's really upset about having to cut people, but he has no choice.
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hope she enjoys her lowered lifestyle!
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Women usually end up in misery after a divorce, despite what they may initially gain financially.

They just aren't marketable after that. Too tore up.

They are like 20 miles of bad road after all that.
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I support the action taken by the OP. No obama (vile deceiver) supporter will ever be helped again by myself. That goes for family members also. Sometimes you have to draw a line when extremist threaten the nations very existence. It is time liberals pull their own weight.
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Try 1917 Russia.
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Yes, kind of a toss-up between the two.

The idiots that voted for Zero however are only slightly more stupid than the numbskulls in the Republican party that allowed Romney to get the nomination. The man has the personality of fresh road kill.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23393274


FAR less interested in ones personality than expertice and the ability to do the proper job.
This isnt a grade one school election or popularity contest, this is about having someone understand and to the proper job for the nation.
Isnt there some muzzie run council flats in your nation you should be paying attention to? How are your muzzie friends personalities? I bet theyre positively riveting

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Just the kind of mindless comment I would expect out of an Obama lover. I am American, and I have no muzzie friends and have not a clue what you are babbling about. Obviously a product of the liberal dumbing down of the American educational system.
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your such a proud american you fly a norge flag.
That's true patriotism for you...
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She knew if Obama was re-elected then 8 people would have to be fired. Sounds like she's either mentally ill or extremely selfish.

Better to get rid of her before any defective children were born.
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Your bro in law sounds like a real loser, she wll be better off without him!
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I support the action taken by the OP. No obama (vile deceiver) supporter will ever be helped again by myself. That goes for family members also. Sometimes you have to draw a line when extremist threaten the nations very existence. It is time liberals pull their own weight.
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To them that means extracting more money from the 'productive people'
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seems to me HE is well shed of her
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agree
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I understand the brother in law could be mad about something like that, but divorce because of just that? Had to be something else too brewing and muddying up their marriage..
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Yep, otherwise it's just poor character on his part. He can be mad but her 1 vote didn't put him out of business so this is just a baby pouting cause his toy was taken away so he's lashing out at anyone he doesn't agree with. Lot's of that going on since Obama has been in office.

There had to be some other things as well, if not, then I agree, she's well rid of him.
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I support the action taken by the OP. No obama (vile deceiver) supporter will ever be helped again by myself. That goes for family members also. Sometimes you have to draw a line when extremist threaten the nations very existence. It is time liberals pull their own weight.
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I agree, a woman willing to subvert her own nation for stolen treats and treasure will doubtless throw her irritatingly responsible and boring husband for a lark in the park at the drop of a...

She's probably been taking it anywhichway but loose from all comers anyway
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Absolutely no healthy human being would have this the sole reason of divorce.

More going on than this.

How did he decide what is "her" stuff?????

He can alter the hours of his employees to get around this, anyway.
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Your bro in law sounds like a real loser, she wll be better off without him!
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I think anyone with a brain can agree (assuming this story is true) that this couple had serious issues ahead of the election, and the issue of voting was the last straw

however, to be fair, it can be very difficult to share close quarters with someone who has extremely different political views...esp if those people are both very vocal about their opinions
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I understand the brother in law could be mad about something like that, but divorce because of just that? Had to be something else too brewing and muddying up their marriage..
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Yep, otherwise it's just poor character on his part. He can be mad but her 1 vote didn't put him out of business so this is just a baby pouting cause his toy was taken away so he's lashing out at anyone he doesn't agree with. Lot's of that going on since Obama has been in office.

There had to be some other things as well, if not, then I agree, she's well rid of him.
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I find the poor character is taking his earnings and throwing them away.

She' looting him and supporting other men looting him.
Funny how poor character is defined as not desiring forced servitude by those that demand forced servitude.
She's not staying after the money's gone, that you can take to the BANK

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