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| jdb User ID: 2426721 11/12/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | No, everyone doesn't cheat, I never did and I had opportunities. I could be sacked up with a very successful women living the good life. My family meant more but now she has done the unthinkable to me and her own child. It's not all about me. The 9 yr old is my reason for being when it comes down to it. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 you don't mean that. you don't mean to tell us that there is anyone in this world who loves you more than your wife of 23 years. you are anygry, and hurt, and rightfully so, bur you can't possibly think anyone loves you more than her, or you've marreid the other girls. right? tell me you donpt actually mean that, please? i know you are devistated, and your wife made a terrible mistake. i know you don't like her very much right now, but if you love her, give your marriage, your wife and your child another chance. love is not obnly dressing up and having fun, or having hot sex, love is also getting through each others stupid mistakes....but i know you know all that. don't cheat emotionally on your wife, if there is any third person in a marriage, that gets even remotely close to what only two people should share, that is worse than any kind of sexual cheating. sher is your wife, if she doen't love you more than any pother person in this world, you must demand it and teach her to love you like that, and respond in the same loving manner. i hope you fond it in your hear to forgive your wife and in time maybe you can rebuilt trust and be close and intimate once again. Good advice! God Is! We're not! Let's knock off all the nonsense! |
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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/12/2012 06:14 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | tell her you want to film it next time.. How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/12/2012 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She's 43, I am 46. I got her as a virgin, never dreamed she would cheat, especially this late in the game. I was always faithful, had plenty of opportunity to step out but I never did. Family was always what kept me in line. I would feel a sucker if I let her back in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/12/2012 06:21 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14815823 11/12/2012 06:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I might add there is still a 9 yr old to raise. Always felt it important to be raised with both the mom and dad in the house. I am sort of old fashioned conservative in that way. Can't see my child ever being raised by someone whom may not share my values. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 If she is truly seeking forgiveness, you should stay and keep your family together without a doubt. You guys will get past this and it will be a distant memory. The pain will slowly go away. Try to talk to her and figure out what happened and come clean about everything you may have done wrong in your relationship. If you did something that might of contributed to this situation, then own it. It sounds like she made the ultimate mistake and you should give her another chance for yourself, your kids, and her. I'm sure you love her dearly. Good luck to you and her. I believe you guys will get fine once you are past all the pain and anger. It just takes time to heal. |
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| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/12/2012 06:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | why not ask your once virgin wife,which the word says you will have confusion with a virgin,if she has any sexual fantasy's, every once in a while? people do have minds of their own and they aint robots or slaves...good god man,just because we have thanksgiving doesn't mean we still got pilgrims,lol...oh nooooooooo sex is bad,dont try new things,stay bored until one of you strays...sounds like you asked for it by lack of communication...yeah i know its a troll,lol.. Last Edited by T Ceti H.C. Radnarg on 11/12/2012 06:34 PM How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7570540 11/12/2012 06:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | You don't talk about your love - only your wife's love for you and the greater love this other woman has for you. Don't you have love for anyone? Honestly, it kind of sounds like you are wondering if this is a good enough reason to kick her out so that you can pursue this other relationship - and that you would do it in a NY minute if it weren't for your child. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7570540 Once you love someone, I think you always do to a certain degree. I honestly found out I love my wife even more then I realized. I love them both but have a passion for my wife. I just know I will always be wondering if she would ever do it again and I don't think I can live like that, passion or not. Our significant others will, at some point, probably do something to betray or hurt us in some way. I believe that people need to work out these issues when possible. After all, you can move on to the next person but there will be issues in that relationship as well(different issues, perhaps, but issues all the same). People who have been divorced once have a greater chance of divorce a second time as well - because they don't learn to work on their relationships, changing what they are doing wrong and normally blaming the other person. Frankly, people don't cheat if everything is good at home. You need to talk to your wife and get some couple's therapy. I've been married close to 30 years. Things haven't always been smooth. I can tell you that I work with screwed up kids and they are almost always from broken homes. Ask your teacher friends - you can usually pick out the kids from divorce without even having that prior knowledge. i agree, there is no human husband or wife that will not betray trust or do something stupid and hurtful at some point in 20 or more years of marriage... i just want to tell you something, i used to be the kind of person who thought only lame people get a divorce, i thought you ought to choose wisely, marry for love and work on it. unless the man is beating you or cheating so much that it's keeping him from ever seeing you or the kids WORK ON IT...and how can you possibly marry such sadist cheat if you choose wisely. i am a very open minded person, but i was very close minded when it comes to divorce. then i got marreid to a man that did a complete 180 after we got married. from loving he wet to cruel, from adoring me he went to "ahhh, you are not much but if you let me punch you around i'll keep you", from charming he went to malicious, both to me and to other people... i thought that divorce wasn't an option and decided that he can't be mean as much as i can love him and be good to him, and that was my plan to break through obvious issues he had with love, women, intimacy, and respecting your loved one.... it made things only worse, he mistook my kindness, patiance, and willingness to work on the marriage, for weakness, fear and not having anywhre to go, so putting up with his crap. pretty soon i got really sick, doctors started tessing me for lupus, a very serious desease. i looked like crap (usually i am not completely unfortunately looking woman), i was physically very sick and mentally i started going through horrible spells.... i was shell shocked that he fooled me so much and that i married such an evil man...i was ashemd and heart broken. we started having really nasty fights and i became mean like i never was before... never in any of my relationships did i have such nasty fights, i usually do not swing cheap shots at someone i love, but i was so broken down with the relization that this man enjoyed abusing me that in a way i became just like him.... it was a terrible situaton, and walking out of that house was one of the best things i have ever done.... you shouldn't judge people who choose divorce, divorce is as natural and normal as marriage and it happens when two people do not love each other enough. real love conquers anything, and nobody should settle for anything else than real love. good divorce is always better than bad marriage, and even my father who has been married for 35 years to the same woman told me after i left the marriage, that love is always a lottery, this time i simply lost,you betted aon all the wrong numbers, but maybe next time i will win a jack pot. i think that is a very good way to look at things when "love" and marriage fail, or fail terribly like mine did. coz i was devistated i was almost cathotonic for a month or two, i stopped showering, eating or sleeping i wld sit ony my mothers sofa, where i also slept and smoke really strong cigarettes and wait for me to die, (i was still pretty sick even though the doctor couldn't diagnose me with anything in particular) now i am wiser to the whole divorce extravaganza:), and i know that, you don't leave your spouse unless you absolutely have to, but if you have to, that isn't the end of the world, and divorce isn't only for bad people and losers it's for all humans who have to do it. it doesn't mean you are flakey if you had gotten a divorce, sometimes it means you got very hurt and betrayed and maybe had to leave the person you were married to even if you hate divorce and..... don't judge divorced people, we are people like any other people, some of us are quite nice people and given the right conditions do know how to feed and nurture love as oppose to kill it. I'm so sorry - I didn't mean to judge divorced people but it did sound like that. Of course, you are right that a "good divorce is better than a bad marriage." I meant that most people give up on their marriages when they can be saved if given time, patience, and training. They give up over things like not spending money as wisely as should be, over the wife not cooking/cleaning as good as the husband would like, too many speeding tickets, in-laws, a sick child, losing a job, the wife no longer looking like she's 25 or the husband losing his hair, or perhaps one likes to flirt. In those cases, one soon learns that you are merely trading one problem for another when you find the next guy/girl. Each relationship will have challenges and you have to learn when and how to stand and fight for your happiness. Then, there are those other cases - abusive spouse, affairs, drug/alcohol/gambling addiction... Sometimes you have no choice but to get out. My mother was divorced - and that was back in the days when divorce was mostly unheard of. Her husband was abusive and when he threatened to kill her she packed up my older siblings and fled across country to safety. There, she met my father who was such a decent man - they had a good life. I hope your life is equally as happy. :) |
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| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum User ID: 27624728 11/12/2012 06:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She was always faithful, hard worker, great mother. I don't think I can trust her even though I feel she would never do it again. Nobody else can believe she did it neither. She had her tubes crossed at doctor request, she claims it made her crazy. Sounds lame to me, but I love her, can't stand it with or without her now. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 What, exactly, are "crossed tubes". Did she have a tubal ligation, if so, why did the doctor "request" it? Did she cheat with said doctor? How instrumental was he in all this... If childbearing was contraindicated, why did you not get a vasectomy instead of putting her through major abdominal surgery? Were you advised to do so and refused? Perhaps the fact that you cared so little for her long term health, and were, indeed, already planning for a life after her (why else would you wish to preserver your fertility, if not to keep your options open)helped drive her away. Of course, all the above is pure speculation dependent entirely on what a "crossed tube" is...and was her doctor, as some other posters have noted, feeding her drugs. This sounds very odd. You might have a big ticket lawsuit against said physician, depending on your state and what really went down there. Last Edited by zenobiaphobia on 11/12/2012 06:56 PM Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to archive.org] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27621888 11/12/2012 07:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | She's 43, I am 46. I got her as a virgin, never dreamed she would cheat, especially this late in the game. I was always faithful, had plenty of opportunity to step out but I never did. Family was always what kept me in line. I would feel a sucker if I let her back in. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 At 46 your not going to be a desired food item if you what I mean. If she is sorry OP? Work it out. Don't sex her right away either, give it time and it will be good again. That is Bullshit. Stay with her because no one else will have you?! I'm 46 and have the 30 something fems doing sit and spin all the time. Outside the country it's even better. |
| T Ceti H.C. Radnarg User ID: 27089841 11/12/2012 07:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ![]() How unfortunate for some rulers when men,women,and children continue to think... Keep repeating the lies loud enough and long enough and just maybe the people will start to believe the lies again and good luck with that...finding your energy open until mars becomes raging aries... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24090746 11/12/2012 07:06 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry to hear it OP. I simply could not "mend fences" after she cheated. Trust is lost not to mention that every time I look at her I would picture her with some other dudes cock in her mouth. Or some other dude pounding away on her. I just couldn't move on from it. It's your life though. Good luck! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1128877 11/12/2012 07:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I might add there is still a 9 yr old to raise. Always felt it important to be raised with both the mom and dad in the house. I am sort of old fashioned conservative in that way. Can't see my child ever being raised by someone whom may not share my values. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 Damn dude. Sorry for what you are going through. My kids were 3 and 5 when my ex cheated with my best friend. But like you I didn't want my kids to not have a mom and dad growing up. It was my worst fear as a child growing up listening to my parents argue. So I forgave her but was always looking over my shoulder. 13 years later it happened again just a couples of years beginning to really trust her again. I have never cheated. Never done a one night stand. I was looking for my princess. My problem is I'm too honest. Chicks don't dig that. So kick her ass to the curb and go through hell. OR live with a cheater cause once a cheater, always a cheater. The process is hell...1 month for every year together to get over. Good luck....time heals |
| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum User ID: 27624728 11/12/2012 07:28 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | In this case perhaps having derived their spelling and language usage from Nigerian begging letters..... "crossed tubes"? Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to archive.org] |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5929355 11/12/2012 07:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Brother, You have allot of history with her and noone should give up on loved one over mistake. Just give her un-conditional love as hard as it sounds. Look at the times we live.. TV, Movies, Music all non stop bombarding lust and sex ect. its not her fault brothers its the times we live. and when you show her true love she will realize what she gots to loose and loosing some1 who loves you un-conditional is to much of a loss for most ppl once they break free of this curse our media/tv/movie/music throw on us. Remeber no1 is perfect and it will be really hard but i feel its better and only will make you guys stronger in the long run. We are in the end of times and this is a really hard time to be alive, sin and temptation is all around us and only thing we really got is love so hold on to it brother!... imo:) god bless you have a good night hope this helps. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 5929355 11/12/2012 07:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I might add there is still a 9 yr old to raise. Always felt it important to be raised with both the mom and dad in the house. I am sort of old fashioned conservative in that way. Can't see my child ever being raised by someone whom may not share my values. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 Damn dude. Sorry for what you are going through. My kids were 3 and 5 when my ex cheated with my best friend. But like you I didn't want my kids to not have a mom and dad growing up. It was my worst fear as a child growing up listening to my parents argue. So I forgave her but was always looking over my shoulder. 13 years later it happened again just a couples of years beginning to really trust her again. I have never cheated. Never done a one night stand. I was looking for my princess. My problem is I'm too honest. Chicks don't dig that. So kick her ass to the curb and go through hell. OR live with a cheater cause once a cheater, always a cheater. The process is hell...1 month for every year together to get over. Good luck....time heals This is wronge, In the bible it says us good people will get walked all over by the ppl who choose the worldy things over love. You are one of the few who have true heart and unconditional love and u should not let it go. i sense heartbreak but dont let it take away that special love and goodness you have deep down inside you this is a rare trait. if you want to blame any1 blame these satanist who spoon feed our children and friends and loved ones with constant brainwashing for lust and temptation on TV, music, Movie. ect.. Sad times we live and dont let it darken your soul brother. god bless ya man. |
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| eve incognito User ID: 27593724 11/12/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 Once you love someone, I think you always do to a certain degree. I honestly found out I love my wife even more then I realized. I love them both but have a passion for my wife. I just know I will always be wondering if she would ever do it again and I don't think I can live like that, passion or not. Our significant others will, at some point, probably do something to betray or hurt us in some way. I believe that people need to work out these issues when possible. After all, you can move on to the next person but there will be issues in that relationship as well(different issues, perhaps, but issues all the same). People who have been divorced once have a greater chance of divorce a second time as well - because they don't learn to work on their relationships, changing what they are doing wrong and normally blaming the other person. Frankly, people don't cheat if everything is good at home. You need to talk to your wife and get some couple's therapy. I've been married close to 30 years. Things haven't always been smooth. I can tell you that I work with screwed up kids and they are almost always from broken homes. Ask your teacher friends - you can usually pick out the kids from divorce without even having that prior knowledge. i agree, there is no human husband or wife that will not betray trust or do something stupid and hurtful at some point in 20 or more years of marriage... i just want to tell you something, i used to be the kind of person who thought only lame people get a divorce, i thought you ought to choose wisely, marry for love and work on it. unless the man is beating you or cheating so much that it's keeping him from ever seeing you or the kids WORK ON IT...and how can you possibly marry such sadist cheat if you choose wisely. i am a very open minded person, but i was very close minded when it comes to divorce. then i got marreid to a man that did a complete 180 after we got married. from loving he wet to cruel, from adoring me he went to "ahhh, you are not much but if you let me punch you around i'll keep you", from charming he went to malicious, both to me and to other people... i thought that divorce wasn't an option and decided that he can't be mean as much as i can love him and be good to him, and that was my plan to break through obvious issues he had with love, women, intimacy, and respecting your loved one.... it made things only worse, he mistook my kindness, patiance, and willingness to work on the marriage, for weakness, fear and not having anywhre to go, so putting up with his crap. pretty soon i got really sick, doctors started tessing me for lupus, a very serious desease. i looked like crap (usually i am not completely unfortunately looking woman), i was physically very sick and mentally i started going through horrible spells.... i was shell shocked that he fooled me so much and that i married such an evil man...i was ashemd and heart broken. we started having really nasty fights and i became mean like i never was before... never in any of my relationships did i have such nasty fights, i usually do not swing cheap shots at someone i love, but i was so broken down with the relization that this man enjoyed abusing me that in a way i became just like him.... it was a terrible situaton, and walking out of that house was one of the best things i have ever done.... you shouldn't judge people who choose divorce, divorce is as natural and normal as marriage and it happens when two people do not love each other enough. real love conquers anything, and nobody should settle for anything else than real love. good divorce is always better than bad marriage, and even my father who has been married for 35 years to the same woman told me after i left the marriage, that love is always a lottery, this time i simply lost,you betted aon all the wrong numbers, but maybe next time i will win a jack pot. i think that is a very good way to look at things when "love" and marriage fail, or fail terribly like mine did. coz i was devistated i was almost cathotonic for a month or two, i stopped showering, eating or sleeping i wld sit ony my mothers sofa, where i also slept and smoke really strong cigarettes and wait for me to die, (i was still pretty sick even though the doctor couldn't diagnose me with anything in particular) now i am wiser to the whole divorce extravaganza:), and i know that, you don't leave your spouse unless you absolutely have to, but if you have to, that isn't the end of the world, and divorce isn't only for bad people and losers it's for all humans who have to do it. it doesn't mean you are flakey if you had gotten a divorce, sometimes it means you got very hurt and betrayed and maybe had to leave the person you were married to even if you hate divorce and..... don't judge divorced people, we are people like any other people, some of us are quite nice people and given the right conditions do know how to feed and nurture love as oppose to kill it. I'm so sorry - I didn't mean to judge divorced people but it did sound like that. Of course, you are right that a "good divorce is better than a bad marriage." I meant that most people give up on their marriages when they can be saved if given time, patience, and training. They give up over things like not spending money as wisely as should be, over the wife not cooking/cleaning as good as the husband would like, too many speeding tickets, in-laws, a sick child, losing a job, the wife no longer looking like she's 25 or the husband losing his hair, or perhaps one likes to flirt. In those cases, one soon learns that you are merely trading one problem for another when you find the next guy/girl. Each relationship will have challenges and you have to learn when and how to stand and fight for your happiness. Then, there are those other cases - abusive spouse, affairs, drug/alcohol/gambling addiction... Sometimes you have no choice but to get out. My mother was divorced - and that was back in the days when divorce was mostly unheard of. Her husband was abusive and when he threatened to kill her she packed up my older siblings and fled across country to safety. There, she met my father who was such a decent man - they had a good life. I hope your life is equally as happy. :) i know. it's ok, you didn't sound judgemental, i knew you were talking about same stuff you just clarified in you post here, i just felt like talking to you. when i first left the bad marriage, i had trouble talking about it, i pretended it was ok, i was ok, coz hard thing about abusive husband is, that u marry someone coz u think you love him and he loves you, and if a the man hurts you like in terrible unimaginable ways, you feel shame, on top of heartbreak. i was ashemd to tell people what a bad man i married, and how miserebly he treated me. your mom is a brave woman, i hope i can have a new life now, with my amazing new husband, and we can have some cool kids, like your mom did. people jusdged me a lot, so called friends, my ex husband had a way of playing people into thinking he was a wonderful husband, and when i left him and, refused to tell people i wasn't very close to, what happend and caused me to leave, i actually faced things like, my best friends co-worker telling me, she thought i was scarey and, that i probably "broke that poor man sideways, and then abandoned my marriage like it was nothing." she said, "marriage is a serious thing, how can you just walk away." ind you this was a woman i hardly knew. my friend is not in the habit of defending me from verbal attacks, he knows i can handle rude people, verbally, but he actually had to step in and tell some of the people that i hardly knew, leave her alone, her husband is the problem. i'd have situations where i was waiting for my friend at his workplace and people wld come up to me and say out of the blue, "i hear u are getting a divorce, so tell me what is the problem, or are u jumping ship at first petty problem, just like fiercly independant woman like you wld do." i've was stunned and shocked and learend to smile and say there was no problem sometimes people just aren't compatible. which i guess just proved these half stragers point that i was a bad person, and my husband was an angel who married a bad, immature person, who asks for a divorce first time they have a fight. anyway, i'm rambling on and on, when i just wanted to say, that you amde a good point, and i didn't feel judged, just opened up a bit to you that's all. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1128877 11/12/2012 08:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I might add there is still a 9 yr old to raise. Always felt it important to be raised with both the mom and dad in the house. I am sort of old fashioned conservative in that way. Can't see my child ever being raised by someone whom may not share my values. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17952043 Damn dude. Sorry for what you are going through. My kids were 3 and 5 when my ex cheated with my best friend. But like you I didn't want my kids to not have a mom and dad growing up. It was my worst fear as a child growing up listening to my parents argue. So I forgave her but was always looking over my shoulder. 13 years later it happened again just a couples of years beginning to really trust her again. I have never cheated. Never done a one night stand. I was looking for my princess. My problem is I'm too honest. Chicks don't dig that. So kick her ass to the curb and go through hell. OR live with a cheater cause once a cheater, always a cheater. The process is hell...1 month for every year together to get over. Good luck....time heals This is wronge, In the bible it says us good people will get walked all over by the ppl who choose the worldy things over love. You are one of the few who have true heart and unconditional love and u should not let it go. i sense heartbreak but dont let it take away that special love and goodness you have deep down inside you this is a rare trait. if you want to blame any1 blame these satanist who spoon feed our children and friends and loved ones with constant brainwashing for lust and temptation on TV, music, Movie. ect.. Sad times we live and dont let it darken your soul brother. god bless ya man. Thank you for the kind reply. |
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