BREAKING: Indiana Explosion has been Identified!!! Must Read!!

How do you suppose Radon gas gets into a home?

My friends aunt and uncles home was completely destroyed by a gas explosion when some heavy equipment damaged a gas main while working on the street, in a typical natural gas explosion most of the damage will be due to the pressure release inside the home blowing outward, anyway my friends uncle was blown through the third floor roof, none of the surrounding homes which were pretty close together were damaged!

wow what a tard

Okay, I am not trying to fight anyone on this. So please, do not tell me I am a shill....I am just trying to educate some of you on the characteristics of natural gas, then maybe you can come to a conclusion that you are more comfortable with.

I happen to work with natural gas, have been for the last 15 years. I have worked with it from the well-head to your stoves. There are a few things brought up on here that are pretty much not true or unanswered so here goes....

1. Natural Gas is considered odorless. But in reality the constituents in the gas give off an aroma that you can smell. This coupled with lube oil from compressors used to boost pressure also gives it a unique smell. So in short, you will smell a gas leak from a transmission line (which are not required to add odorant). Once gas is bought by a distribution comany, the gas is treated with an odorant, typically methal mercaptan. This is what gives it that "sulfur" smell. You will definitely be able to smell it, and more importantly, no what it is at this point.

2. Natural Gas is lighter than air. It has a specific gravity of approximately .6. Propane on the other hand is somewhere around 1.5. It is heavier than air. This is why it tends to "hover" if you have a propane leak. Natural Gas on the other hand needs a barrier to be kept at ground level, such as a house. Follow me? Gas can accumulate in a house to the point it is explosive. Which is approximately 5% to 15% volume in air. Once this mixture is reached....BOOM! Get it?


3. How would gas accumulate in the house? Esecially if the gas company experts deemed there were no leaks in the area? Let me give you a scenario. One day Harry K. Gas is out doing a leak check on his pipeline. Harry picks up some gas out in the middle of a field. "Oh shit" says Harry. "I have to expose this line to find this leak and fix it". So Harry starts digging to the east and finds no more gas. Harry then starts to dig to the west and picks up gas again. He now knows he is going in the right direction. Harry digs for an additional 600 ft. before he finds the source of the leak. Any takers on why? It's because gas will follow the path of least resistance. If the ditch it was laid in is solidly against the pipe, it will go straight up through the ground. However, if the ditch has shrunk due to DRY CONDITIONS, then it will migrate thru the ditch line until it finds a way out. Sometimes this way out is straight through someones foundation, yes foundation, where the natural gas line was ran. So it is easy to see that it COULD have made its way there. And the gas company experts could be reporting no leaks because there are no leaks where they are looking. Okay?

4. Well what about the smell, someone would have smelled it, right? Absolutely. This is distribution, and mercaptan is required. But if you look closely at some of those pictures, that house was for sale and vacant. No one can smell it if no one is there. So it is possible for the gas to have accumulated to the LEL (Lower Explosive Limit) and ignited. The only thing left would be an ignition source. This is where I have the problem determining what made it go boom (if this is what caused it). My best guess is that whomever was selling the house kept some utilities on so pipes wouldn't freeze, to ensure the furnace stayed on, etc. So if it was a natural gas furnace, the pilot remains lit. BOOM! If it was electric heat/air, the motor kicked on, BOOM! Natural gas water heater, BOOM! you get the point. Nobody has to be present to ignite the gas. Hell, if someone would have came along and rang the door bell, BOOM! If someone would have called the house, BOOM! Get the picture? A lot of ways to make gas go BOOM. As a matter of fact, at the gas plant we cannot have cell phones, cameras, anything electronic that is not intrinsically safe, or in short, not capable of producing enough current to ignite the gas. The saving grace is that there is a small window of the gas-air mixture required to burn. But once there, it is easy to ignite.


5.In case you are wondering about the power of natural gas, picture how much force is applied to a piston on a natural gas engine. The explosion that is accomplished has enough energy to propel a 4,000 lb. vehicle with relative ease, and you are telling me that it cannot take out a house made out of wood? Let's do a little math. If you apply 1 psi of a gas to a 10X10 wall, what is the applied pressure on that wall? Some might think 1 psi. But remember what psi stands for? Pounds per Square Inch. So you are actually exertiing 14,400 pounds of force on that wall (typical gas explosion exerts roughly 300 psi). I think that would take care of any kind wall made nowdays, and coninue on to the next, and the next, and the next, etc. The heat of combustion in Natural Gas is 10 times the amount of TNT. Think on that one a minute.


Long story short, yes, this could have been caused by natural gas. And yes, natural gas IS POWERFUL enough to take out a whole damn city block. Do I know for sure that natural gas was the cause? No. But I don't want anybody to underestimate the power of natural gas and the potential dangers of it. In fact this hit pretty close to home, literally. I urge everyone who has natural gas or propane to get a hydrocarbon detector installed in their home. Mount it down low for propane, and up high for natural gas. And make damn sure you have a carbon monoxide detector as well.

Rmember to stay safe out there people!

It was a local teacher and her husband. Nobody that the gubment would have anything against....I think.

Wow. Sounds like we need to put on Armadillo helmets and retreat to a bunker asap... With no internet. I'll fill you in, since 3 of my buddies and i were less than 200 yards away in front of a campfire when it blew us out of our chairs.

1. There were no missiles... I served in the military as well. Missiles are f'cking loud... That is retarded... But people love controversy so wtf ever, lol. It was quiet in Greenwood that night and nice out.

2. No meteors, planes, aliens, projectiles, etc... Nothing came down from the sky and caused this..

3. It was the loudest f'cking thing i've ever heard in my life and my ears are still ringing. My nerves are still edgy, and it scared the shit out of all of us.

4. It rained the remnants of a housig edition down on us for the following 10 minutes.

5. The couple that died were good people. She was my brother-in-laws daughter's teacher. He lives even closer, on Todd.

I understand your need to find a more controversial answer as to why this happened. But it was serious shit guys. Real children screaming in streets amidst a fire so hot it was curling the hairs of our arms trying to help these people. Absolute chaos, 2 people died, and most of them are just hoping that the insurance companies don't find the usual loop hole not to cover their damages.

No one smelled gas... And i knew from the get go the amount of natural gas required to level a street and be heard all the way to Franklin would have been so significant, somebody would've smelled it. My brother in law and his wife could happily confirm however, they weren't running meth.. & even then, it would had to have been Meth f'cking central in order for it to turn Sherman into Die Hard.

If you want to find the answer, take a look at the backstory behind the owners of the actual house that exploded. Divorced couple, mother and daughter lived there with her "boyfriend".. There's a recipe for chaos right off the bat. (Or a springer episode.) The mother and daughter were in Ohio when it happened. The house was for sale until March. Illegal Aliens have been breaking into homes and stealing copper pipes because apparently copper is worth good money. Pretty f'cking lame, but hey...'merica..
The daughter called the husband a week prior and notified him of a furnace issue as well.

I wish you guys well in your endeavor to find a conspiracy here. Those of us who were directly affected by this however are going to get to the bottom of it. Every house on that block is within 10 feet of each other. We would more appreciate your prayers than your theories.

South....about 4 miles.

you just posted as someone entirely different on another thread.

Multipersonalityist!

You guys have already got my prayers! My wife and I woke up when it hapened and were biting our nails for you. I'm glad that no one else got taken, and I mourn for those that did. And I keep praying that everything will get back in line for you guys.

Please know that I am not looking for what caused it, I know it will come out in the wash. I am trying to do what you are implyng....to not let the tragedy get over-ridden by the GLP effect. I feel whenever someone sensationalizes the event instead of the people, all hope is lost. I really do wish you all the best, I just put my knowledge out there to help everyone else understand the power of natural gas. It is something that is taken lightly everyday, and it can kill, and it does have the power to take out a whole block. If it is found to be the cause, I just want everyone to learn from it, so others don't have to get hurt. Peace to you my friend in these tough times. I will pray for you and yours in the coming days!

Thanks, very informative. Sounds right to me.

it was just a matter of time that the shills showed up with the flower gifs, and hi, sorry to hear about that, and shit. they take over this way by conversing like it's tea time while ignoring the thread main topic, putting irrelevant info in here and there to sucker people with, no info to deve deep with, ever -- just surface non sense.

hey dumb ass!! that poster was just busted for impersonating a different persona on another thread.

Hey mouth breather...I could care less if it was fucking Santa Clause and The Grinch busted him humping your mother while you and you daddy spanked each other watching.

I am not trying to take over jack-shit. I live very close to what happened, and I also have some knowledge where gas is concerned. If you look at my post, I said you can take it how you want (just like your sister does down on the street corner). And if there is a chance that it is someone from the incident, hell yea I am praying for them, no questions asked. So don't jump my shit with your stupid-ass shill shit....basement boy. You better hurry up and find a place to live, I hear mommy is raising the rent.....douchebag.





There's your m-fin flower gif. Punk.

"Richmond Hills" is just the name of the housing development. It's not it's own town. It's in Indianapolis, on the very south side.

Yep, you're correct. It's about 4 miles from the center of town. Very south side indeed.

this poster has some serious anger management issues. psychotic -- wow!!

Uh....can u say drone?im sure if we were all face to face you would all be looking at me with that glazed look....blank stare. Thought this was a conspiracy site, not really is though. You would rathe talk about UFOs instead of what is happening at your back door

Great post, but my only question is if it was gas, and that's "where the gas escaped" as you mentioned in point 3, why would there not be a long string of explosions underground until the explosion reached the source? Or at least smaller explosions rather than just the one large explosion as common with gas leaks INSIDE a home? Surely, the gas wouldn't ignite and not ignite nearby gas (the gas from the line leading back to the source

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Maybe. It just chaps my ass when I am really just trying to help paople figure things out, and hoping for the best for my fellow Hoosiers, and some ass-clown gets on here and calls me a shill and takes the sympathy I display and toss it aside. Not cool. So if that is what you mean by anger management issues, you are probably right. I call it standing up for what I believe in. And if I'm going to get railed on for name-calling, you all should've started with that other rat-bastard, as I had made no foul remarks before then.

So if you want to jump on the band wagon as well, start swinging junior. Otherwise, don't worry about how I defend myself.


Thanks.

Adding this over here because we've been trying on the main thread (I'm the OP over there) to figure out what this picture is that we discovered mixed in a slideshow on WishTV. See the weird image in the upper right? Batlike thing? Anyone recognize it?

We think the picture depicts debris maybe on a car windshield or car hood as you can see some of the larger pieces of debris casting a bit of a reflection.

This picture, however, does not match at all with any of the other pictures in the slide show and is the only one posted by the person that posted it. And when you just initially click through all of the pictures, it doesn't really jump out at you so it seems odd and weirdly placed and hopefully someone will recognize it and rule it out as something simple! Some have speculated that it might be a "tag" of some sort.

Please take a look! Thanks!

(actual pic in link above, but here's the full slideshow in which it appears - it is pic #5 - [link to widgets.wishtv.com] )

Man, now there is a good question. Someone on here is actually thinking about it.

Remember the LEL? The mixture HAS to be correct for it to burn. If there is not enough gas, no fire. Too much, same thing. As a maater of fact, we do a lot of "hot-work" in the pipeline business. We either determine an atmosphere is safe to work in by A) No gas or B) Too much gas.

Think of your car engine. I am sure you have heard of the term "flooded" right? What happens when it is flooded? You get pissed off that your car will not start because it has gotten too much gas in tha carb. Same applies to natural gas, and propane, and diesel, and on and on. If you do not have the right mixture, you will not have a fire.

This is where gas transmission and higher pressure is much safer (from an explosive standpoint) to work with. The LEL is much harder to obtain, because the gas is at too much pressure and velocity to accumulate. The biggest dangers in transmission pipelines are pig traps and tanks, where pressure is low and gas can accumulate easier. Make sense?

was that bat blown up from one of the pics, not seeing it in the slide.

Yeah this picture [link to widgets.wishtv.com] is pic #5 on the full slideshow

Here is a close up of it...

[link to imageshack.us]

and yes it is from one of the photos on the wish tv site.....very odd thing to take a photo of..especially if thats the only one uploaded to the site by the person...you would think there would be other more exciting things to photograph after an explosion? WHich makes it likely it was photographed and posted for a specific reason....maybe a message...

i would say it was posted specifically to be seen. bat thing could be related to Colorado, or a diversion to lead you off into wonderland and not look at the gulf connection, new madrid, and methane.

So if there is too much gas, an explosion wont occur? Then how could you ever get an explosion of that magnitude? I've seen the pictures, and those of other houses. This one seems to be much more "fiery" for lack of a better adjective. The majority of other explosions I've seen just all appeared to be a result of an expansion of pressure, not really much of an explosion per se.

I understand the basics, but I still don't understand how if the explosion was as big as it was, it didn't cause at least ONE minor explosion as the fireball trailed through the gas flow as it hit a more concentrated (or less concentrated, as you said too much gas is no-reaction)pocket of gas.

It comes in through cracks and pipe openings!

2 houses destroyed, methane pocket emerging from underneath was exploded as it emerged in and around the foundations and blown by drone.