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‘Ron Paul Effect’ May Have Cost Romney Election

 
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‘Ron Paul Effect’ May Have Cost Romney Election
The GOP’s snubbing of conservative-libertarian Ron Paul and his supporters may have cost Republican candidate Mitt Romney the presidential race, a new analysis shows.

Romney’s margin of loss to President Obama in five states – the swing states Florida, Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire, and the dyed-blue Connecticut – were less than the number of votes Paul won during the Republican primary, shows political news website Policymic.


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[insert Leave Romney Alone! smilie here]
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It was predetermined to begin with...that's why instead of paper ballots, we have electronic voting. Not near the trail/proof so the whole thing was rigged to begin with. Don't mind me I'm just being a crazy ass conspiracy theorist that should be in the nuthouse.
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the republicans would rather have Obama in office than Ron Paul. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.
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The outcome was rigged from the get-go. The race, the spending, the ads, the fake mud-slinging was all theater. Fewer believed this time than most other times.
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11/12/2012 09:48 AM
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There are TONS of us that will NEVER support the GOP after they MOCKED FREEDOM.

The GOP is as bad as the DimoCrips. It's like choosing between death by gassing or death by lethal injection.

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11/12/2012 09:50 AM
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im a ron paul guy and libertarian since 2007, just saw this on the DP thought i would share.

i guess we will never known. But looking at the data, obama won in all the swing states pretty much. Several million of us paul bots either sat home, wrote him in (stupid) or about 1.1 million voted for johnson, but half of those were pissed off democrats


if the MSM machine had taken paul under it's wing, im pretty sure he would of run, but not they painted him as fringe


the GOP has alot of new young voters and they just ignore them
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the media lied about everything and ran interference for hussein. NOBODY could have prevailed against a malinformed public, a corrupt candidate that lied about absolutely everything and endemic corruption deemed acceptable by any leftoid in power.
Had paul been the candidate he would have been destroyed and lied about just as much as Romney was.

Ignorant childish americans waiting for their imaginary perfect candidate or their free money from the current regime are what sold america out.
The perfect is always the enemy of the good in politics and it requires liars to promote the fiction that perfection is coming if you wait reality out.
There is no way the public would tolerate a jump from gummint dependence to libertarian fantasy in one step, if nothing else romney would have changed the discussion from free everything to freeing yourself from total gummint.
Not perfect, not conclusive, but a step in the right direction, which was too much for the typical american narcissist that wants all his treats and presents first before doing anything to earn them
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the republicans would rather have Obama in office than Ron Paul. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


i tend to agree, hence why they embraced Romney, who if you just spend 10 minutes researching, is nearly as liberal on social and economic issues.


it's all a game, and the GOP have put two boneheads up for office in recent years on purpose imo
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The outcome was rigged from the get-go. The race, the spending, the ads, the fake mud-slinging was all theater. Fewer believed this time than most other times.
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all true, less [people got off the couch
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Re: ‘Ron Paul Effect’ May Have Cost Romney Election
The GOP’s snubbing of conservative-libertarian Ron Paul and his supporters may have cost Republican candidate Mitt Romney the presidential race, a new analysis shows.

Romney’s margin of loss to President Obama in five states – the swing states Florida, Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire, and the dyed-blue Connecticut – were less than the number of votes Paul won during the Republican primary, shows political news website Policymic.


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May be something to that. I just learned that my 22-year-old daughter voted for Gary Johnson! WTF?
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The GOP’s snubbing of conservative-libertarian Ron Paul and his supporters may have cost Republican candidate Mitt Romney the presidential race, a new analysis shows.

Romney’s margin of loss to President Obama in five states – the swing states Florida, Ohio, Virginia, New Hampshire, and the dyed-blue Connecticut – were less than the number of votes Paul won during the Republican primary, shows political news website Policymic.


[link to www.therightperspective.org]
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Frank from Queens and John from Staten Island are correct. I drew the same conclusion a few days ago. Even the obvious voter fraud wouldn't had stopped the defeat of Oboma if the GOP embraced instead of spit on the Paulistas
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11/12/2012 09:59 AM
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There is not one thing that stopped Romney, rather a combination of many things. If I had to lay my finger on what brought him down.... lack of respect for most Americans and of course that would include Ron Paul and his supporters.

If you ever visit a Republican forum, you will be overwhelmed by the hatred. If you are not one of them, then you are a target.

They preach against abortion, but are for war. They act as Christians but stop short of wanting to feed the poor, and take care of the sick. Thank God, they have become the minority in America.

There is hope for our country.
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the republicans would rather have Obama in office than Ron Paul. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


Obviously true
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There is not one thing that stopped Romney, rather a combination of many things. If I had to lay my finger on what brought him down.... lack of respect for most Americans and of course that would include Ron Paul and his supporters.

If you ever visit a Republican forum, you will be overwhelmed by the hatred. If you are not one of them, then you are a target.

They preach against abortion, but are for war. They act as Christians but stop short of wanting to feed the poor, and take care of the sick. Thank God, they have become the minority in America.

There is hope for our country.
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Rush LimTard and the other talk radio blabbers like Levine still aren't admitting that they were wrong in spitting on the Paulistas. Ironic because for the most part the Paulistas are more conservative in may ways than the talk radio conservatives.
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The roof is on fiiireeeee!

After the grand reception the Paul delegates got in Tampa, the RNC can burn for all I care.
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Agreed. The GOP is more destructive to true conservatives like many Paul supporters are, like many independents and third party voters are, than is the DNC. At least the DNC holds itself out to be the opposition, as opposed to the GOP which holds itself out to be a bastion of conservatism yet in reality is the other half of a bipartite lie that plays itself out in carefully arranged theater on our TV daily.
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...yet in reality is the other half of a bipartite lie that plays itself out in carefully arranged theater on our TV daily.
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This placed the thought in my head that all news, no matter who the company, is carefully produced "reality television".
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There is some real news and the real news gets reported, spun or not spun, on some if not most networks. But that's only for the biggest stories. What's most notable to tell a publisher or author's slant is the collage of stories they choose to run, the type of emotional reaction as writers they have to the news, what they try to elicit in you, and quite notably their choice of which stories they never run with too.
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Mises institute

Libertarianism and the freedom philosophy

Ron Paul is just a messenger for these two movements. He didn't invent freedom, he just spread the message to anyone who cared to listen.

The message is right and the truth is refreshing, especially since I 'unlearned' the bullshit I was told by school, media, government, teachers/professors etc.

Still we are such a small number but what Ron Paul has done especially in the last 4-5 years is something no other person in Washington, even the president could ever have done in all their time on the hill.

The idea of liberty is attractive and its the right time for this to come to light especially since this mad world is running on the same old empty ideas and notions for the last 100 years.
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11/12/2012 10:33 AM
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thank God for Paul & his son.
they, together, destroyed the last little bit of the "lie" i was holding on to.

feels good to be free of it.
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Mises institute

Libertarianism and the freedom philosophy

Ron Paul is just a messenger for these two movements. He didn't invent freedom, he just spread the message to anyone who cared to listen.

The message is right and the truth is refreshing, especially since I 'unlearned' the bullshit I was told by school, media, government, teachers/professors etc.

Still we are such a small number but what Ron Paul has done especially in the last 4-5 years is something no other person in Washington, even the president could ever have done in all their time on the hill.

The idea of liberty is attractive and its the right time for this to come to light especially since this mad world is running on the same old empty ideas and notions for the last 100 years.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27497495


Unlearn that lie and unlearn it well. Toto has yet to pull the curtain back on the wizard.
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Yes, but I fear his son has gone to the dark side and is being groomed for the role of "Freedom" candidate in 2016. Luke Rudkowski had some tough questions for him in a youtube interview... well, an attempt of an interview. Was also another journalist he tried to get arrested apparently for asking about Bilderberg or about something.
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thank God for Paul & his son.
they, together, destroyed the last little bit of the "lie" i was holding on to.

feels good to be free of it.
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Amen
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Plus, when his own father was still an as yet not totally bashed by the mainstream media actual candidate, he couldn't get face time, but his son was getting big face time on the mainstream news for various issues he was pushing. The contrast was notable for what didn't get said then (the blackout of his father in the news) and for what was said (because it was planting seeds for the future).
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lolatu

Tell me, how does selling out to the GOP cost a fellow Republican an election?

You guys are DELUSIONAL!!! But...its funny. It truly is.

From, none other than, "The Daily Paul!!!"
[link to www.dailypaul.com]

Even better, was this particular moment of time which preceded Rand Paul's hilarious betrayal of the Ron Paul cult club.
[link to blogs.wsj.com]

It sucks when reality sets in...doesn't it???
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I am so sick of the "Ron Paul, Gary Johnson, Libertarians" stole the election threads.

I voted Obama last time. Gary "stole" a vote from Obama. Talk to some libertarians, and you will realize its a pretty even split between former liberals and former conservatives. WE WANT LIBERTY. That transcends political dogma.

If Obama had lost, liberals would pushing the same argument.
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pick

Tell me, how does selling out to the GOP cost a fellow Republican an election?

You guys are DELUSIONAL!!! But...its funny. It truly is.

From, none other than, "The Daily Paul!!!"
[link to www.dailypaul.com]

Even better, was this particular moment of time which preceded Rand Paul's hilarious betrayal of the Ron Paul cult club.
[link to blogs.wsj.com]

It sucks when reality sets in...doesn't it???
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Thanks shill granny
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the republicans would rather have Obama in office than Ron Paul. Don't kid yourself into thinking otherwise.
 Quoting: Cult of Personality


i tend to agree, hence why they embraced Romney, who if you just spend 10 minutes researching, is nearly as liberal on social and economic issues.


it's all a game, and the GOP have put two boneheads up for office in recent years on purpose imo
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27455453


Ron Paul is a lot more progressive on social issues (on a federal level) then Romney.

Basically the GOP is pandering to much to the evangelical right wing nutters to be able of getting votes from a lot of people in the center (even though they are dissatisfied with the Obama administration).

If the GOP ran solely on fiscal responsibility (including cuts to the military industrial complex) they probably would have won the election by a landslide. Even though the last time those fuckers were in power they flat out lied to go to war (the people behind Romney were the same fuckers that were behind Bush).

But then again such a candidate would never win the nomination since if he would say that he wouldn't overturn roe vs wade or that even making a statement that would say that the candidate would not support a constitutional amendment that bans gay marriage he would just flat out loose the GOP nomination.

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