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SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES THEY ARE WORKING STIFFS

 
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The ultimate con is convincing kids and there families that being a soldier is just another job. Bullshit! It's about killing people and violence, it's as simple as that.

Until people understand this, they will never be free. This madness has to stop...
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I am an American. And, I served in the military. I wasn't a hero then and our soldiers now ARE NOT HEROES. They are simply going to "work" every day and getting paid to do their "job". That is it. Soldiers are doing NOTHING to "protect our freedoms" here in the USA. It's all bullshit.bump
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Hell yea! I am in the military and I agree. I was young and unawake when I joined. Unfortunately , I am getting deployed to Afghanistan. To defend what? Nothing. I am getting out in 2015. That's when my contract is up.

My brother deployed last year and regretted it. He said they were told to not question authority or the higher ups will be mad. He said they were getting paid to get blowned up. I agree. The military is not defending anything. Only thing we do that is useful is help people who homes have been destroyed by hurricanes and disasters. I live in Louisiana.
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SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES. They are doing NOTHING to "protect" the USA. Nothing.

Hero worship in this country is pathetic. NOBODY gives a shit about the WAR in Afghanistan. NOBODY.

SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES.

Hey, soldiers...when you return home...DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING other than "Welcome home".

YOU ARE NOT HEROES.
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I am an American. And, I served in the military. I wasn't a hero then and our soldiers now ARE NOT HEROES. They are simply going to "work" every day and getting paid to do their "job". That is it. Soldiers are doing NOTHING to "protect our freedoms" here in the USA. It's all bullshit.bump
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Hell yea! I am in the military and I agree. I was young and unawake when I joined. Unfortunately , I am getting deployed to Afghanistan. To defend what? Nothing. I am getting out in 2015. That's when my contract is up.

My brother deployed last year and regretted it. He said they were told to not question authority or the higher ups will be mad. He said they were getting paid to get blowned up. I agree. The military is not defending anything. Only thing we do that is useful is help people who homes have been destroyed by hurricanes and disasters. I live in Louisiana.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Sounds like you've got your head screwed on right. That's right, just do your time and get the hell out. You are doing your JOB just like the rest of us working Americans. I hope you get home safe I really do.

Just to be clear, folks: I AM NOT KNOCKING military service! Not at all. I am just saying military service is just a job and SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES just because they volunteered to do their JOB.
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SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES. They are doing NOTHING to "protect" the USA. Nothing.

Hero worship in this country is pathetic. NOBODY gives a shit about the WAR in Afghanistan. NOBODY.

SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES.

Hey, soldiers...when you return home...DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING other than "Welcome home".

YOU ARE NOT HEROES.
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The only thing we can do to be heroes is put the treasonous idiots in the white house on trail.
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I am an American. And, I served in the military. I wasn't a hero then and our soldiers now ARE NOT HEROES. They are simply going to "work" every day and getting paid to do their "job". That is it. Soldiers are doing NOTHING to "protect our freedoms" here in the USA. It's all bullshit.bump
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Hell yea! I am in the military and I agree. I was young and unawake when I joined. Unfortunately , I am getting deployed to Afghanistan. To defend what? Nothing. I am getting out in 2015. That's when my contract is up.

My brother deployed last year and regretted it. He said they were told to not question authority or the higher ups will be mad. He said they were getting paid to get blowned up. I agree. The military is not defending anything. Only thing we do that is useful is help people who homes have been destroyed by hurricanes and disasters. I live in Louisiana.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Sounds like you've got your head screwed on right. That's right, just do your time and get the hell out. You are doing your JOB just like the rest of us working Americans. I hope you get home safe I really do.

Just to be clear, folks: I AM NOT KNOCKING military service! Not at all. I am just saying military service is just a job and SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES just because they volunteered to do their JOB.
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It's a job where you get paid to die. I am I'm the Guard amd all we do is bullshit work.
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SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES. They are doing NOTHING to "protect" the USA. Nothing.

Hero worship in this country is pathetic. NOBODY gives a shit about the WAR in Afghanistan. NOBODY.

SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES.

Hey, soldiers...when you return home...DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING other than "Welcome home".

YOU ARE NOT HEROES.
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The only thing we can do to be heroes is put the treasonous idiots in the white house on trail.
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Now you're just being stupid. Figures you'd say ignorant shit like that. You're listening too much to the bullshit being said around you. Oh well. I still hope you make it home okay.
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It's a job where you get paid to die. I am I'm the Guard amd all we do is bullshit work.
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WHY did you VOLUNTEER for a job to be "paid to die"? What a stupid thing to say. You're a disgruntled employee. Okay, I get that. But, YOU TOOK THE JOB. Nobody forced you. You KNEW the risks.
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SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES. They are doing NOTHING to "protect" the USA. Nothing.

Hero worship in this country is pathetic. NOBODY gives a shit about the WAR in Afghanistan. NOBODY.

SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES.

Hey, soldiers...when you return home...DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING other than "Welcome home".

YOU ARE NOT HEROES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25009119


The only thing we can do to be heroes is put the treasonous idiots in the white house on trail.
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Now you're just being stupid. Figures you'd say ignorant shit like that. You're listening too much to the bullshit being said around you. Oh well. I still hope you make it home okay.
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So you think the people in the White House are not committing treason behind or backs or passing unconstitutional bills . I just hate that they are getting away with everything. Oh well, the day will come when the military wakes up.
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SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES. They are doing NOTHING to "protect" the USA. Nothing.

Hero worship in this country is pathetic. NOBODY gives a shit about the WAR in Afghanistan. NOBODY.

SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES.

Hey, soldiers...when you return home...DON'T EXPECT ANYTHING other than "Welcome home".

YOU ARE NOT HEROES.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25009119


The only thing we can do to be heroes is put the treasonous idiots in the white house on trail.
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Now you're just being stupid. Figures you'd say ignorant shit like that. You're listening too much to the bullshit being said around you. Oh well. I still hope you make it home okay.
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Told you....OP voted for Oblamy, don't knock his version of dictatorship because he knows all.
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It's a job where you get paid to die. I am I'm the Guard amd all we do is bullshit work.
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WHY did you VOLUNTEER for a job to be "paid to die"? What a stupid thing to say. You're a disgruntled employee. Okay, I get that. But, YOU TOOK THE JOB. Nobody forced you. You KNEW the risks.
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Yea which is true. I though we died for freedoms, now that I know what's going on we don't. So technically we are dying for nothing .
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It's a job where you get paid to die. I am I'm the Guard amd all we do is bullshit work.
 Quoting: CigarTigher

WHY did you VOLUNTEER for a job to be "paid to die"? What a stupid thing to say. You're a disgruntled employee. Okay, I get that. But, YOU TOOK THE JOB. Nobody forced you. You KNEW the risks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25009119


Yea which is true. I though we died for freedoms, now that I know what's going on we don't. So technically we are dying for nothing .
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Sadly, EVERY DEATH had NOTHING to do with "our freedoms". Absolutely nothing. You must stop drinking the lemonade and THINK for yourself.
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Told you....OP voted for Oblamy, don't knock his version of dictatorship because he knows all.


You're an idiot. The IDIOTS lost. President Obama won. Get over it. You're such a fool.

BTW: SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES
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It's a job where you get paid to die. I am I'm the Guard amd all we do is bullshit work.
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WHY did you VOLUNTEER for a job to be "paid to die"? What a stupid thing to say. You're a disgruntled employee. Okay, I get that. But, YOU TOOK THE JOB. Nobody forced you. You KNEW the risks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25009119


Yea which is true. I though we died for freedoms, now that I know what's going on we don't. So technically we are dying for nothing .
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Sadly, EVERY DEATH had NOTHING to do with "our freedoms". Absolutely nothing. You must stop drinking the lemonade and THINK for yourself.
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I do think for myself. Like I said, I was young when I joined and that's what I thought. Now, that I know what is going on, I don't think that again. You get it ?
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WHY did you VOLUNTEER for a job to be "paid to die"? What a stupid thing to say. You're a disgruntled employee. Okay, I get that. But, YOU TOOK THE JOB. Nobody forced you. You KNEW the risks.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25009119


Yea which is true. I though we died for freedoms, now that I know what's going on we don't. So technically we are dying for nothing .
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Sadly, EVERY DEATH had NOTHING to do with "our freedoms". Absolutely nothing. You must stop drinking the lemonade and THINK for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25009119


I do think for myself. Like I said, I was young when I joined and that's what I thought. Now, that I know what is going on, I don't think that again. You get it ?
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I sure do get it. Unfortunately, every time you say something about "for our freedoms" --- YOU just DON'T GET IT. Don't be deluded. NOTHING you or anyone you know in the military has EVER done ANYTHING "for our freedoms" here at home. GET IT??
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Soldiers are NOT heroes. They are working stiffs just like the rest of us. They are doing NOTHING to "protect our freedom" here at home. They agreed to the conditions of employment to which they volunteered and are being compensated for. Nothing more. STOP all of this BULLSHIT HERO WORSHIP about soldiers.
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Yeah working stiff.. yet you still have your right of freedom of speech.. I guess soldiers have nor had anything to do with that.. OP.. You have your right to spew from your mouth I agree with that.. But I think you need to take your meds and pull your head out of your ass..
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Soldiers are NOT heroes. They are working stiffs just like the rest of us. They are doing NOTHING to "protect our freedom" here at home. They agreed to the conditions of employment to which they volunteered and are being compensated for. Nothing more. STOP all of this BULLSHIT HERO WORSHIP about soldiers.
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Yeah working stiff.. yet you still have your right of freedom of speech.. I guess soldiers have nor had anything to do with that.. OP.. You have your right to spew from your mouth I agree with that.. But I think you need to take your meds and pull your head out of your ass..
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Blow me. I am right and everyone knows it.
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Yea which is true. I though we died for freedoms, now that I know what's going on we don't. So technically we are dying for nothing .
 Quoting: CigarTigher


Sadly, EVERY DEATH had NOTHING to do with "our freedoms". Absolutely nothing. You must stop drinking the lemonade and THINK for yourself.
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I do think for myself. Like I said, I was young when I joined and that's what I thought. Now, that I know what is going on, I don't think that again. You get it ?
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I sure do get it. Unfortunately, every time you say something about "for our freedoms" --- YOU just DON'T GET IT. Don't be deluded. NOTHING you or anyone you know in the military has EVER done ANYTHING "for our freedoms" here at home. GET IT??
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Do you know how to read ?
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Sadly, EVERY DEATH had NOTHING to do with "our freedoms". Absolutely nothing. You must stop drinking the lemonade and THINK for yourself.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25009119


I do think for myself. Like I said, I was young when I joined and that's what I thought. Now, that I know what is going on, I don't think that again. You get it ?
 Quoting: CigarTigher


I sure do get it. Unfortunately, every time you say something about "for our freedoms" --- YOU just DON'T GET IT. Don't be deluded. NOTHING you or anyone you know in the military has EVER done ANYTHING "for our freedoms" here at home. GET IT??
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Do you know how to read ?
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Shut up and show your tits already. Now THEY look HEROIC!
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Soldiers are NOT heroes. They are working stiffs just like the rest of us. They are doing NOTHING to "protect our freedom" here at home. They agreed to the conditions of employment to which they volunteered and are being compensated for. Nothing more. STOP all of this BULLSHIT HERO WORSHIP about soldiers.
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Yeah working stiff.. yet you still have your right of freedom of speech.. I guess soldiers have nor had anything to do with that.. OP.. You have your right to spew from your mouth I agree with that.. But I think you need to take your meds and pull your head out of your ass..
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Freedom of speech?

Lol

Freedom of speech has never been so undermined as it is today.
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Told you....OP voted for Oblamy, don't knock his version of dictatorship because he knows all.
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You're an idiot. The IDIOTS lost. President Obama won. Get over it. You're such a fool.

BTW: SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES



This thread is boring now. The worst troll attempt ever.

And actual soldiers/marines/airmen/sailors don't think of themselves as heroes.

You will never hear anyone that served call themselves a hero. (that kid you mentioned was not in, if he joined he would not be calling himself a hero. That's a maturity thing)

It's outside entities that do this, like the MSN.

Your rational applies to everyone: firemen, paramedics, doctors etc. This is lame.

So all in all, really lame troll post.
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Yeah they protect all the freedoms we don't have, right?

lol... what a joke
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The dont protect anything, they work for corporate interests, not the people.
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They are doing something protect our freedom.


Their existence creates a plausible threat to those who would take our freedom.


Now, is our military being used by those not interested in wielding them in the best interest of Americans?


Sure.

But that is the failing of civilians. Not the people in the military.

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They are doing something protect our freedom.

Misrepresentation.

Their existence creates a plausible threat to those who would take our freedom.

Not really.

Now, is our military being used by those not interested in wielding them in the best interest of Americans?

Sure.

False



But that is the failing of civilians. Not the people in the military.

The failing is with those left with the publics trust to defend the constitution.
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Original message edited.

Last Edited by Intergalactic Diplomat on 11/20/2012 11:56 AM
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SOLDIERS ARE NOT HEROES
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They are no more a HERO than the people flipping burgers for a living.

Nobody is saying being a soldier isn't COURAGEOUS. Working at a job consistently and honestly and working your way up IS ALSO COURAGEOUS.

Being a soldier is just having another job. That's it. Nothing more needs to be said.
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pretty fucking arrogant to speak for ALL soldiers.

my dad was a soldier, both of my grandfathers were soldiers, my uncle was a soldier, and my son is soon to be a soldier.

they are the real deal.
 Quoting: Salt

By the way, your Grandpa probably served in World War 2? Now THAT is being a HERO. Absolutely, positively. Why? Because this country was under threat. His boot wasn't pounding sand in the middle east somewhere. His service actually MEANT SOMETHING MORE than just having a job.
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i have to agree. modern warfare is a different definition than what it was then.
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Yeah working stiff.. yet you still have your right of freedom of speech.. I guess soldiers have nor had anything to do with that.. OP.. You have your right to spew from your mouth I agree with that.. But I think you need to take your meds and pull your head out of your ass..
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bsflag


The statement "nor had" is a misrepresentation. You cannot rest on the moral laurels of the past. It 'is what it is' today, not under cover of military tradition. The military is now transparently exploited by th elite just as government, education, currency, religion, and all the other institutions of faith are.

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soldier = soul dire
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They are doing something protect our freedom.


Their existence creates a plausible threat to those who would take our freedom.


Now, is our military being used by those not interested in wielding them in the best interest of Americans?


Sure.

But that is the failing of civilians. Not the people in the military.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154



They are doing something protect our freedom.

Misrepresentation.

Their existence creates a plausible threat to those who would take our freedom.

Not really.

Now, is our military being used by those not interested in wielding them in the best interest of Americans?

Sure.

False



But that is the failing of civilians. Not the people in the military.

The failing is with those left with the publics trust to defend the constitution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Original message edited.
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle



Your thinking is flawed, it's EVERYONE's responsibility to defend and uphold the constitution. You, your elected officials, grandma down the street etc.

Your statement is just throwing blame when you should be looking in the mirror.
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They are doing something protect our freedom.


Their existence creates a plausible threat to those who would take our freedom.


Now, is our military being used by those not interested in wielding them in the best interest of Americans?


Sure.

But that is the failing of civilians. Not the people in the military.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154



They are doing something protect our freedom.

Misrepresentation.

Their existence creates a plausible threat to those who would take our freedom.

Not really.

Now, is our military being used by those not interested in wielding them in the best interest of Americans?

Sure.

False



But that is the failing of civilians. Not the people in the military.

The failing is with those left with the publics trust to defend the constitution.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 21926154


Original message edited.
 Quoting: Dr.DoomLittle



Your thinking is flawed, it's EVERYONE's responsibility to defend and uphold the constitution. You, your elected officials, grandma down the street etc.

Your statement is just throwing blame when you should be looking in the mirror.
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I see your point; but the public at large has an abstract obligation; where the formal mandate; the oath; the obligation, rests with those in the public trust. This trust has been derrilect by at best negligence and at worst purposeful corruption. 'You (not personal)' are deffering the responsibility, if you serve, figuratively, to justify your personal culture of comfort and safety.

I am not referring to bravery in combat, I am referring to the lack of 'watching', or knowing the events that transpire that introduce the threat.

You are correct about the responsibility being all of ours; and the people's negligence as well. But you cannot disown the obligation to act. And i am not referring to you personally; just those that serve and "play stupid" or say "dont blame me" or "just follow orders". That makes you a DIRECT party to the evil; the peopl, an INDIRECT party... all are guilty.

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Actually, most recruits have no idea what they're signing up for, and we don't get paid nearly enough.
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That's bullshit. You obviously have never served.
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