What Should My First Gun Purchase Be? | |
| Nam Marine User ID: 24695931 11/12/2012 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Remington 870 shotgun in 12 ga and a Ruger 10-22 rifle. Both are the Swiss army knives of the firearms world. Quoting: TheBiss I second this. Remington 870 is overrated... You can do just as well with a Mossberg 500 This is very true! |
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| Oscanator User ID: 24421278 11/12/2012 12:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to decide between a Glock 19 or a Benelli Supernova shotgun. I can only afford to buy one of them right now. Which would be the better purchase for just protection against whatever? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102398 If it were me I would get a mossberg model 500 or 590. They are the only shotguns that passed mil-spec. Very reliable. Do some research and u will see that they are the shotgun to own. I own a 590 and it is a awesome weapon! |
| Oscanator User ID: 24421278 11/12/2012 12:37 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to decide between a Glock 19 or a Benelli Supernova shotgun. I can only afford to buy one of them right now. Which would be the better purchase for just protection against whatever? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102398 If it were me I would get a mossberg model 500 or 590. They are the only shotguns that passed mil-spec. Very reliable. Do some research and u will see that they are the shotgun to own. I own a 590 and it is a awesome weapon! Also own a glock 19. Also a very good choice but for the first I would go with shotgun, more options. Close quarters you can use bird shot or buckshot. For longer range a slug works very well. With practice you will have no problem hitting center mass at 100 yards. |
Chip![]() Forum Moderator User ID: 21090171 11/12/2012 01:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to decide between a Glock 19 or a Benelli Supernova shotgun. I can only afford to buy one of them right now. Which would be the better purchase for just protection against whatever? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102398 Under normal circumstances I would go shotgun first then close range second...but consider the insanity of the world...do the reverse of that. Last Edited by Chip on 11/12/2012 01:05 PM Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. ~Arthur C. Clarke Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first. ~Mark Twain |
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| Oyster User ID: 18401048 11/12/2012 01:16 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing but a bunch of wealthy elitists on thi thread. Seems like only the wealthy can afford the good guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428045 well they dont give them away for free, moran glpuser81@gmail.com GLP isnt just for those who want to know, it is for those who want to know who wants to know. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1428045 11/12/2012 01:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing but a bunch of wealthy elitists on thi thread. Seems like only the wealthy can afford the good guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428045 well they dont give them away for free, moran Of course not. Only the peasants get the $25-$100 guns at yard sales, while all the snobby elites buy up the four figures or more guns. 2nd amendment seems to be another thing that favors the wealthy. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1028551 11/12/2012 01:25 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2cents: Living in an urban environment with no intention to bug out? I suggest a handgun, GLOCK 19 ($540), or a Ruger P95 ($299). Both are reliable and have been used by LEO's. You can conceal them so have the comfort of being able to defend yourself but not advertise the fact. You want to blend in, not stick out. Living in a more rural area? Get yourself a used lever-action 30-30 with a scope. You can kill anything on two or four legs in north america with this firearm, it is the 'quintessential' firearm of the American people still going strong, easy and cheap to shoot. Put some optics on it and use Hornady Polymer tipped bullets and you can reach out to 300 yards without breaking a sweat. I'd avoid using a shotgun as a primary/only weapon, you can get a 30/30 for about the same price and your options will be greatly improved with a 30/30. Shotgun is great for close quarters like defense indoors / clearing rooms / and of course the sound of a shotgun being 'racked' is extremely intimidating to would be raiders. Shotguns are cheap to shoot but remember you have a very limited range of about 100yds with them (using slugs) and significantly less with buckshot. You don't have to be as good of a shot with a gauge, but it also has less penetration power against armor than a 30/30 at medium range. So yea... my advice, get the 30/30 if rural, glock 19 or ruger 95 if urban. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23524705 11/12/2012 01:50 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get a ax from Harbor Freight fro $7.99. Put it next to your bed. It's more quiet, and can be very effective. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25825617 Well as long as the laws of society are still in effect, you will have a harder time defending your case of 'self-defense' when you chop someone with an axe. Its easier to claim self-defense with a firearm. If you get attacked and stab a person, you can very easily be the one who goes to jail. I have extensive hand to hand combat training, from the military and years of karate, if i were to get into a fight with someone, even if they were attacking me first and I seriously injured or killed them, I would probably go to jail, especially if i used a knife or similar implement. As soon as someone like me engages with an assailant the legal cards are not in my favor. If you have that kind of training you shouldn't be 'fighting' at all. Its much simpler to shoot the person right off the bat, because your life was threatened, then to try and disarm them otherwise. Its also much harder to disarm and subdue a person via martial arts without hurting them. Personally my feeling is that if someone punches you, and you block in such a way as to break their arm, they will never punch you with that arm again. Of course if you do this you will probably go to jail. |
| DT2 User ID: 26788827 11/12/2012 02:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Shotgun. Don't have to be a great shot to protect yourself, and just the sound of the shotgun being racked can be enough to make the bad guy flee. “A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government.” --President George Washington |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9026665 11/12/2012 03:34 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Smith & Wesson 44 magnum Stainless Steel Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1549311 wheel gun with the 8" barrel. It was my first gun. If you are a man, that is. If you are a woman or a wimp, anything will do. Yes. Although mine is a ruger redhawk .44mag in stainless, pretty much ends the pistol caliber discussion. Accurate, reliable, and most importantly gobbs of killing/stopping power. I'm sure allot of you read that story about the guy in texas who saved that cop with his .357 from 120+ yards away, I believe he hit the guy five times in total. My basic SHTF load-out, is as follows... Ruger mini-14, 10/22, redhawk .44 mag all stainless steel, and an interarms ppk/s also stainless. These guns have basically never failed me, and yeah I love Ruger weapons. I really like the combination of the .44 mag and the ppk/s, you can open carry the revolver, and conceal the smaller pistol. If I have time and space I will take more but this is about what I can carry personally. The mini-14 and the 10/22 are on folding stocks, and are actually quite comfortable. Nice choices especially the 44, that is one powerful gun. I personally would go with my 45ACP 1911. I love that thing. |
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| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 24094200 11/12/2012 03:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | guess i know what i'll be askin santa for WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
| BoboTheHobo User ID: 14756504 11/12/2012 03:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing but a bunch of wealthy elitists on thi thread. Seems like only the wealthy can afford the good guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428045 well they dont give them away for free, moran Of course not. Only the peasants get the $25-$100 guns at yard sales, while all the snobby elites buy up the four figures or more guns. 2nd amendment seems to be another thing that favors the wealthy. Maybe you should work harder. It's not like 300 for a mossy is gonna break anyone anyways. An expert is someone who knows more and more about less and less until eventually they know everything about nothing ~ Anonymous |
| train User ID: 3582303 11/12/2012 04:06 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sega 12 gauge, extended mag., alternate rounds between mag slugs and 00. A slug hitting a kevlar vest above the heart will turn the heart into jello. "Any man, who thinks he can be happy and prosperous by letting the U. S. Government take care of him, should take a closer look at the American Indian." --- Henry Ford |
| -GooGooFlexy- User ID: 1238529 11/13/2012 09:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing but a bunch of wealthy elitists on thi thread. Seems like only the wealthy can afford the good guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428045 well they dont give them away for free, moran Of course not. Only the peasants get the $25-$100 guns at yard sales, while all the snobby elites buy up the four figures or more guns. 2nd amendment seems to be another thing that favors the wealthy. Maybe you should work harder. It's not like 300 for a mossy is gonna break anyone anyways. I paid less than that for my mossberg 500. It's badass too. You could expect that if there weren't so many goddamn regulations, guns wouldn't be so expensive in the first place. So...I blame YOU, AC libtard. -GooGooFlexy- |
| Cold Pizza User ID: 25845227 11/13/2012 09:18 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I love my .410 shotgun and my .308 rifle Power to the people! Arm and protect yourself! It is your right! Practice safe gun handling. NEVER HAVE YOUR FINGER ON THE TRIGGER UNLESS YOU INTEND TO FIRE THE WEAPON Free thinker; Diogenes of Sinope; Shameless bumper of Relevant Shards of Truth |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 24011342 11/13/2012 09:25 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | easy choice for first weapon... [link to cogdogblog.com] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1234641 11/13/2012 09:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For the novice shooter who needs protection without a lot of training. Get the Stoeger Coach Gun in 12 gauge. Its a simple short side-by-side shotgun in which a child could understand how to use. It also breaks down and will it into a normal size backpack very easily. One version also has an integral rail under the barrels to allow the attachment of a flashlight or laser. Honestly, there is nothing more intimidating than seeing this thing pointed at you. It kicks like a mule, so get a slip on shoulder pad and a shotgun sling to carry it. Why thin over a pump? Well in my experience it is flexibility. You can carry various typed of shells, and can switch them out instantly where needed. beanbags bird shot of various sizes buckshot of various sizes slugs flares There are also a variety of different power loads. Sometimes you just don't need the power of that 3.5 inch shell. Sometimes you do. It will be a long time before this weapon is on any confiscation list. |
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