What Should My First Gun Purchase Be? | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14541046 11/13/2012 09:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was just researching what my first handgun should be. For a handgun many people recommended getting a revolver first rather than a semi automatic pistol. Less things to worry about or that can go wrong/jam and a good gun to master shooting on before trying others. A medium frame .357 revolver (which can also shoot .38 special for practice) revolver with a 4" barrel. Something like a Smith and Wesson 686 or Ruger GP100 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14349741 11/13/2012 09:55 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | My 2cents: Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1028551 Living in an urban environment with no intention to bug out? I suggest a handgun, GLOCK 19 ($540), or a Ruger P95 ($299). Both are reliable and have been used by LEO's. You can conceal them so have the comfort of being able to defend yourself but not advertise the fact. You want to blend in, not stick out. Living in a more rural area? Get yourself a used lever-action 30-30 with a scope. You can kill anything on two or four legs in north america with this firearm, it is the 'quintessential' firearm of the American people still going strong, easy and cheap to shoot. Put some optics on it and use Hornady Polymer tipped bullets and you can reach out to 300 yards without breaking a sweat. I'd avoid using a shotgun as a primary/only weapon, you can get a 30/30 for about the same price and your options will be greatly improved with a 30/30. Shotgun is great for close quarters like defense indoors / clearing rooms / and of course the sound of a shotgun being 'racked' is extremely intimidating to would be raiders. Shotguns are cheap to shoot but remember you have a very limited range of about 100yds with them (using slugs) and significantly less with buckshot. You don't have to be as good of a shot with a gauge, but it also has less penetration power against armor than a 30/30 at medium range. So yea... my advice, get the 30/30 if rural, glock 19 or ruger 95 if urban. You da man and thanks! ![]() |
| Whole lee shit User ID: 11270410 11/13/2012 10:00 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The only thing keeping the Judge from being the best hand gun ever built is the fact that its a revolver and not a semi auto. Still the best handgun for personal protection on the market. "You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett You think Einstein walked around thinkin' everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? Now you know why he built that bomb |
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| CobraKhan User ID: 1569528 11/13/2012 10:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am trying to decide between a Glock 19 or a Benelli Supernova shotgun. I can only afford to buy one of them right now. Which would be the better purchase for just protection against whatever? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1102398 For survival situation, get a shotgun/22LR combination over/under. If you have the means, get a reliable and affordable shotgun (Mossberg maybe) and then a good 9mm pistol (most available ammo out there since it a standard round for many people and agencies). This would take care of many situations. If you do get a handgun, get a good name brand (Ruger, Glock, CZ, Sig Sauer, etc...) don't buy junk. You may be able to find a good deal at a gun show (offer to buy both from same vendor and see what deal they can give you). Just like people who "have to buy Harleys" when a good Honda will do, don't just buy a Bennelli (even though they are awesome) the cost may prohibit you from getting something else that you could really use. Be practical, stay w/in your means, and do a little homework on the items that interest you. -Ck |
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| SkullOrchard User ID: 1135190 11/13/2012 11:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Get a handgun first, but I suggest a different handgun other than the Glock. Glocks are good guns, dont get my wrong...but I suggest the Smith and Wesson M&P 9. Super reliable like the glock is, but the M&P is infinitly more comfortable to hold. The glock grip...well sucks in my opinon. M&P nine feels great in your hand. I went to the store with the intention of getting a glock 19, and left witht the M&P 9 instead. I love that gun. I have had no problems with it. Plus it looks nicer. The glock is very squared and blocky looking. I'm telling you when you go to the store, at least go hold it. You wont be disappointed. M&P 9 is the way to go. It only ends once. Anything that happens before that is just progress. |
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| Whole lee shit User ID: 11270410 11/13/2012 12:05 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing but a bunch of wealthy elitists on thi thread. Seems like only the wealthy can afford the good guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428045 You got that right. I have a LM&T 5.56 and .308. No wealthy elitists here. Most guns are expensive ($500-$2000+) but you can always buy cheap guns. Ive got a Mosin Nagant I bought at a pawn shop brand new right out of the case for $200. You can find weapons like this all day long. You just need to do your homework and find the best weapon for you. "You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett You think Einstein walked around thinkin' everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? Now you know why he built that bomb |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1595910 11/13/2012 03:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | There was a movie out recently and there were diamond dazzled guns. Sort of like some gangsters have more money than they know what to do with. there's an xbox game, army of 2, allows you to "bling" out your guns. it helps to piss the enemies off and get their attention. (which is part of a play mechanic) |
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| LosTLocos User ID: 27226192 11/13/2012 03:51 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nothing but a bunch of wealthy elitists on thi thread. Seems like only the wealthy can afford the good guns. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1428045 well they dont give them away for free, moran Of course not. Only the peasants get the $25-$100 guns at yard sales, while all the snobby elites buy up the four figures or more guns. 2nd amendment seems to be another thing that favors the wealthy. Well boo frickin hoo, maybe the government will start handing out gun stamps, kinda doubt it though with Obambi now back in.. Even if you are in a minority of one, the truth is still the truth. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18260563 11/13/2012 04:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I know you probably don't want to hear it ... but pick up a .22LR Bolt Rifle from Savage (with Accu-Trigger) or Marlin. Everyone thinks they can learn to shoot well. But bad habits grow fast and die hard. You'll end up flinching, jamming the trigger, and shooting THOUSANDS less rounds as the ammo is so much more expensive. Learn basic marksmanship and fundamentals before you get anything with any type of power behind it. Your first bike had training wheels didn't it? Once you learn how to properly shoot and have developed sufficient skills, move up to a larger caliber. Handguns in home-defense are to buy time til you get to a rifle/carbine. I'd rather be shot any day of the week with a .380, 9mm, .40SW, .45ACP, etc. than even a .223 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1549678 11/13/2012 04:09 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Right now j&g sales has Israeli hi powers for 245.00 they are great guns 9 mm and are battle tested. Mags are cheap and easy to come by. Then buy a used ruger 10/22. You can do this for the price of your new glock. I own many flocks and love them but the best deal going now is the Kareem hi powers at j&g. |
| Lester User ID: 1188171 11/13/2012 04:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Mel Tappan advised survivalists, (ie those buying weapons with a purpose for self-defense) who didn't already own suitable rifle or handgun, to buy their DEFENSE weapons and ammunition first. Know how to shoot already and know how to handle firearms safely? How to sight-in your weapon? I would buy a basic 1911 type pistol in .45acp from Springfield Armory, Colt, or S&W and purchase 5-10 boxes of generic 230gr ball ammunition. Winchester USA type at Walmart for about $40/100 is a good deal. Might prefer a Glock or Springfield XD if feels better in your hand, but stay with a .45acp. Buy more ammunition if you can. Might think about a .22lr conversion kit for you pistol if you need to get used to shooting the gun w/o much recoil or report. As far a rifle, I prefer an AR-15 in .223 with 75gr ammunition. A .308 is a better choice for use w/generic or surplus ammunition of 150gr. The Springfield M1a or PolyTech M1a is another option. Perhaps an FN FAL or H-K 91 might turn up? Might try pawnshops or look at gunbroker.com or your local paper for a deal. Maybe a friend needs to sell a rifle? As an option, if the semi-autos are hard to find; and they may already be... The Marlin lever action model 1894 in .44 magnum with a companion revolver in same chambering could serve you well. .44 special loads work fine for self-defense in the handgun and the magnum loads in the rifle will take deer or stop any large animal with a solid hit. If you have funds, a handloading kit, loading supplies, and couple of manuals will also serve you well. Hard to go wrong buying any quality firearm or handloading component. Demand is there and supplies are going fast... Good luck to you and yours... |
| Whole lee shit User ID: 11270410 11/13/2012 04:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | if you don't get the shotty you should def get a red dot sight cuz they improve accuracy a lot. i think the green ones improve reload speed but i can't really figure how that would work. if it's the case tho i guess it couldn't hurt to throw it on the shotty Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1595910 Your either an idiot or your jerking our chain. How the fuck is a red dot different then a green dot other then color of the dot? Plus, there is no way the color is going to effect your reloading speed. "You can go to hell -- I'm going to Texas!" - Davy Crockett You think Einstein walked around thinkin' everyone was a bunch of dumb shits? Now you know why he built that bomb |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 18260563 11/13/2012 07:36 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I think he may have meant follow-up, rather than reload. Just didnt word it properly. In which case, it could possibly come to personal preference or what MY EYES see slightly differently than YOUR EYE. So Red or Green could appeal to one or the other. And I dont care who said what: Every person I have seen go to the range and try to learn on a M1A, AK, etc. shot way shittier than the person I had next to me coaching through the step by step fundamentals of making a precise shot. Call me a liar, but with my .17 HMR I had a GIRL who never shot before cracking off 1.5" groups at 100 yards. I bet if she touched my .300WM, or intimidating looking AR, or Mini, or AR50, etc. she would have been all over the place shooting 18" groups. I am friends with people that have tried to teach themselves on bigger calibers. And 10 years later, they still shoot decent, but are slower on target, slower recovering, less accurate overall, etc. Learn on something small. Master it. Then get it larger caliber. |
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