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| Sam101 Offer Upgrade  User ID: 27591208  Yemen11/12/2012 10:15 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1302314  Australia11/12/2012 10:27 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It's quite important that you understand that the theory of evolution is an anti religious theory..not a scientific theory..back when it was proposed, and accepted, it was a large blow to religion and a large victory for science.. Because it's an anti religious theory..it gets a lot more protection than other theories. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27508159 United States11/12/2012 10:29 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey buddy just because you didn't go to school and get an education does not mean the evidence is lacking. If you went to college and studied evolutionary science for years to receive a doctorate then maybe you would have a clue what you are talking about. All you have is an opinion that god created all the lifeforms that exist. You are entitled to your opinion but please do not try to bullshit us about there being "no evidence to support evolution" This is a typical religio-centric anti-evolution-theory argument which has no credibility. If you need me to rephrase this with smaller words so that your primitive childlike brain can understand, feel free to ask. |
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| Sam101 (OP) User ID: 27591208 Yemen11/12/2012 10:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank u all for ur opinions and replys,, when u say what are fossils, u know what they are, and we know that its formed through time, the motion of nature,, the fact is the Universe is moving in a high order , nature is the universe flow,, Ask this what Caused all these highly complex ed systems and its order to exist, . is it just Random events?,, Last Edited by Sam101 on 11/12/2012 10:46 AM Sam101 |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27592998  Germany11/12/2012 10:51 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey buddy just because you didn't go to school and get an education does not mean the evidence is lacking. If you went to college and studied evolutionary science for years to receive a doctorate then maybe you would have a clue what you are talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27508159 All you have is an opinion that god created all the lifeforms that exist. You are entitled to your opinion but please do not try to bullshit us about there being "no evidence to support evolution" This is a typical religio-centric anti-evolution-theory argument which has no credibility. If you need me to rephrase this with smaller words so that your primitive childlike brain can understand, feel free to ask. I'm not religious at all, but I also don't believe in evolution. A "doctorate" means nothing when it comes to critical thinking. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27573720 United States11/12/2012 10:56 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first of all, evolution has NOTHING to do with, or anything to say about where life sprung from. what you refer to is a completely separate theory called "abiogenesis". the theory of evolution ONLY deals with the mechanisms of speciation. it deals with lineage. it deals with fitness for environment, and exploitation of the niche in that environment a creature is suited for. it is neither pro- or anti-religious. it also is entirely beyond debate. it has been proven, and withstood the test of new information becoming available time and time again in the past century and a half. most importantly, it requires no magic. the fossil record complies with its precepts. observable evidence in both plant and animal husbandry comply with its precepts. the fairly recent scientific understanding of genetics both confirm, and comply with its precepts. the only thing that doesn't comply with its precepts is mythology (and the only real non-compliance in that is related to "young earth creationism" and "literal infallibility of dogma"). the science behind evolution is beyond reproach. now, before you hit me with "but it's only a theory", i will invite you to remove all the floor joists in your home, because, after all, gravitation is "just a theory", you can also feel free to stick a fork in your wall socket, because, after all, electromagnetism is "just a theory". |
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| DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States11/12/2012 11:01 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | nice post Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27590397 when we look at the knowledge and level of ancient society we must ask ourselves if anything history tells us is true for example pyramids all over the world To be fair, OP has a good point. And the pyramids are a prim example of the proof that man kind has been around a lot longer than claimed by our current(way out of date) school system and mass media. It is already becoming evident to many prominent scientists today that the pyramids are way older than we are being told. Although, from my understanding, we did fall back down to a stone age type of living for some time, before picking ourselves back up slowly. Why it happened remains to be seen in its totality at this time. Last Edited by DoubleHelix on 11/12/2012 11:01 AM "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States11/12/2012 11:03 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey buddy just because you didn't go to school and get an education does not mean the evidence is lacking. If you went to college and studied evolutionary science for years to receive a doctorate then maybe you would have a clue what you are talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27508159 All you have is an opinion that god created all the lifeforms that exist. You are entitled to your opinion but please do not try to bullshit us about there being "no evidence to support evolution" This is a typical religio-centric anti-evolution-theory argument which has no credibility. If you need me to rephrase this with smaller words so that your primitive childlike brain can understand, feel free to ask. I'm not religious at all, but I also don't believe in evolution. A "doctorate" means nothing when it comes to critical thinking. That's so true. I used to believe in evolution but after the years of learning some things here and there, I'm starting to think human evolution may be wrong. The very same people that are hard core evolutionists blasted me over the sun being good for you and that saturated fat consumption do not actually cause heart disease got me wondering about whether they got evolution wrong. They would retort to name calling when I dared to question some things about evolution. I never go to church or anything involved with religious so I find it strange for them to immediately call me bibletard. Fuck them. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23182389 United States11/12/2012 11:05 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first of all, evolution has NOTHING to do with, or anything to say about where life sprung from. what you refer to is a completely separate theory called "abiogenesis". the theory of evolution ONLY deals with the mechanisms of speciation. it deals with lineage. it deals with fitness for environment, and exploitation of the niche in that environment a creature is suited for. it is neither pro- or anti-religious. it also is entirely beyond debate. it has been proven, and withstood the test of new information becoming available time and time again in the past century and a half. most importantly, it requires no magic. the fossil record complies with its precepts. observable evidence in both plant and animal husbandry comply with its precepts. the fairly recent scientific understanding of genetics both confirm, and comply with its precepts. the only thing that doesn't comply with its precepts is mythology (and the only real non-compliance in that is related to "young earth creationism" and "literal infallibility of dogma"). the science behind evolution is beyond reproach. now, before you hit me with "but it's only a theory", i will invite you to remove all the floor joists in your home, because, after all, gravitation is "just a theory", you can also feel free to stick a fork in your wall socket, because, after all, electromagnetism is "just a theory". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27573720 It's still a theory. Get over it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27592998 Germany11/12/2012 11:08 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Hey buddy just because you didn't go to school and get an education does not mean the evidence is lacking. If you went to college and studied evolutionary science for years to receive a doctorate then maybe you would have a clue what you are talking about. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27508159 All you have is an opinion that god created all the lifeforms that exist. You are entitled to your opinion but please do not try to bullshit us about there being "no evidence to support evolution" This is a typical religio-centric anti-evolution-theory argument which has no credibility. If you need me to rephrase this with smaller words so that your primitive childlike brain can understand, feel free to ask. I'm not religious at all, but I also don't believe in evolution. A "doctorate" means nothing when it comes to critical thinking. That's so true. I used to believe in evolution but after the years of learning some things here and there, I'm starting to think human evolution may be wrong. The very same people that are hard core evolutionists blasted me over the sun being good for you and that saturated fat consumption do not actually cause heart disease got me wondering about whether they got evolution wrong. They would retort to name calling when I dared to question some things about evolution. I never go to church or anything involved with religious so I find it strange for them to immediately call me bibletard. Fuck them. Their "evolution" deal IS a religion to them, and no dissent is permitted. It's very much like the hare krishnas. Dissent frightens the hell out of them. They seem to be worried the whole house of cards could come crashing down around them. Much like the global warmers. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27539984 United States11/12/2012 11:10 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | thank u all for ur opinions and replys,, when u say what are fossils, u know what they are, and we know that its formed through time, the motion of nature,, the fact is the Universe is moving in a high order , nature is the universe flow,, Ask this what Caused all these highly complex ed systems and its order to exist, . Quoting: Sam101 is it just Random events?,, what are the most complex education systems and how did they evolne and devolve complexity is almost what its all about one has + one hasnt = money |
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| DoubleHelix User ID: 10449558 United States11/12/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try being a trained archaeologist and looking into the Bosnian pyramids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27592998 It's a career ender if you even attempt it. LOL :D "I posit that the human being has the capability to utilize the ''real eyes'' to ''realize'' and see through the ''real lies'' ...The ''real eyes'' can only become operational when the heart and higher mind are in synchronized, which requires dual brain hemisphere synchronization."~Danial My [email protected] 1111x1111=1234321<[NUMERICAL PYRAMID;] “Injustice never rules forever.” - Seneca |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27573720 United States11/12/2012 11:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first of all, evolution has NOTHING to do with, or anything to say about where life sprung from. what you refer to is a completely separate theory called "abiogenesis". the theory of evolution ONLY deals with the mechanisms of speciation. it deals with lineage. it deals with fitness for environment, and exploitation of the niche in that environment a creature is suited for. it is neither pro- or anti-religious. it also is entirely beyond debate. it has been proven, and withstood the test of new information becoming available time and time again in the past century and a half. most importantly, it requires no magic. the fossil record complies with its precepts. observable evidence in both plant and animal husbandry comply with its precepts. the fairly recent scientific understanding of genetics both confirm, and comply with its precepts. the only thing that doesn't comply with its precepts is mythology (and the only real non-compliance in that is related to "young earth creationism" and "literal infallibility of dogma"). the science behind evolution is beyond reproach. now, before you hit me with "but it's only a theory", i will invite you to remove all the floor joists in your home, because, after all, gravitation is "just a theory", you can also feel free to stick a fork in your wall socket, because, after all, electromagnetism is "just a theory". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27573720 It's still a theory. Get over it. "theory" is as far as it goes in science. it is the end point, at least as far as classification of validity. supposition, hypothesis, theory is the "pecking order". to graduate from hypothesis to theory, the hypothesis has be proven demonstrable, and repeatable. it has to be testable. it also has to stand up to being tested by anybody. evolution has run all the gauntlets. music is "still a theory". optics? theory. gravity? theory. newtonian motion? theory. kepplerian motion? theory. electromagnetism? theory. atomic physics? theory. all are "just theories", yet every one is proven, and used on a daily basis. before you dismiss any of the above, actually look into the proofs and scientific reasoning behind them. evolution is indisputable. i'm sure you will agree gravity is indisputable. and electromagnetism. and thermodynamics. and optics. evolution is equally proven as they are, and has withstood the test of vastly increased knowledge over time. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27592998 Germany11/12/2012 11:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first of all, evolution has NOTHING to do with, or anything to say about where life sprung from. what you refer to is a completely separate theory called "abiogenesis". the theory of evolution ONLY deals with the mechanisms of speciation. it deals with lineage. it deals with fitness for environment, and exploitation of the niche in that environment a creature is suited for. it is neither pro- or anti-religious. it also is entirely beyond debate. it has been proven, and withstood the test of new information becoming available time and time again in the past century and a half. most importantly, it requires no magic. the fossil record complies with its precepts. observable evidence in both plant and animal husbandry comply with its precepts. the fairly recent scientific understanding of genetics both confirm, and comply with its precepts. the only thing that doesn't comply with its precepts is mythology (and the only real non-compliance in that is related to "young earth creationism" and "literal infallibility of dogma"). the science behind evolution is beyond reproach. now, before you hit me with "but it's only a theory", i will invite you to remove all the floor joists in your home, because, after all, gravitation is "just a theory", you can also feel free to stick a fork in your wall socket, because, after all, electromagnetism is "just a theory". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27573720 It's still a theory. Get over it. "theory" is as far as it goes in science. it is the end point, at least as far as classification of validity. supposition, hypothesis, theory is the "pecking order". to graduate from hypothesis to theory, the hypothesis has be proven demonstrable, and repeatable. it has to be testable. it also has to stand up to being tested by anybody. evolution has run all the gauntlets. music is "still a theory". optics? theory. gravity? theory. newtonian motion? theory. kepplerian motion? theory. electromagnetism? theory. atomic physics? theory. all are "just theories", yet every one is proven, and used on a daily basis. before you dismiss any of the above, actually look into the proofs and scientific reasoning behind them. evolution is indisputable. i'm sure you will agree gravity is indisputable. and electromagnetism. and thermodynamics. and optics. evolution is equally proven as they are, and has withstood the test of vastly increased knowledge over time. See, he is dogmatic. It's a religion; he adheres to it. |
| Really? User ID: 24401354 United States11/12/2012 11:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you that stand on the point that People who disagree with Evolution do so because they are uneducated and have no factual evidence to back it up. You may be Correct!! However have you ever considered (We Know you haven't) That the "Theory of Evolution" Can NOT be proven to be factual? If it could then there would be NO missing link!!!! That's right the Missing Link is a prime example of your Theory missing Fact! Now for those "Christians" in the bible where it says in the beginning the earth was without form and void. This is OUR beginning no the beginning of the universe. I cant tell you how many times the earth has been wiped clean and began anew but it clearly has. Anyway Theories are theories. You stare at a "planet" millions of miles away and make statements saying "this planet is made up of such and such gasses and has a temperature of such and such". But as of yet it has not been proven to be one hundred percent accurate. ITS ALL JUST A THEORY until someone proves it to be fact and NO theory can be used as factual evidence IN IT SELF! |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27592998 Germany11/12/2012 12:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Try being a trained archaeologist and looking into the Bosnian pyramids. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27592998 It's a career ender if you even attempt it. wikipedia still says the pyramids are natural lol!  Exactly. I was listening to an Italian female archaeologist. She related how she was blacklisted for visiting and researching the Bosnian pyramids. One has to wonder why. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27573720 United States11/12/2012 12:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | first of all, evolution has NOTHING to do with, or anything to say about where life sprung from. what you refer to is a completely separate theory called "abiogenesis". the theory of evolution ONLY deals with the mechanisms of speciation. it deals with lineage. it deals with fitness for environment, and exploitation of the niche in that environment a creature is suited for. it is neither pro- or anti-religious. it also is entirely beyond debate. it has been proven, and withstood the test of new information becoming available time and time again in the past century and a half. most importantly, it requires no magic. the fossil record complies with its precepts. observable evidence in both plant and animal husbandry comply with its precepts. the fairly recent scientific understanding of genetics both confirm, and comply with its precepts. the only thing that doesn't comply with its precepts is mythology (and the only real non-compliance in that is related to "young earth creationism" and "literal infallibility of dogma"). the science behind evolution is beyond reproach. now, before you hit me with "but it's only a theory", i will invite you to remove all the floor joists in your home, because, after all, gravitation is "just a theory", you can also feel free to stick a fork in your wall socket, because, after all, electromagnetism is "just a theory". Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27573720 It's still a theory. Get over it. "theory" is as far as it goes in science. it is the end point, at least as far as classification of validity. supposition, hypothesis, theory is the "pecking order". to graduate from hypothesis to theory, the hypothesis has be proven demonstrable, and repeatable. it has to be testable. it also has to stand up to being tested by anybody. evolution has run all the gauntlets. music is "still a theory". optics? theory. gravity? theory. newtonian motion? theory. kepplerian motion? theory. electromagnetism? theory. atomic physics? theory. all are "just theories", yet every one is proven, and used on a daily basis. before you dismiss any of the above, actually look into the proofs and scientific reasoning behind them. evolution is indisputable. i'm sure you will agree gravity is indisputable. and electromagnetism. and thermodynamics. and optics. evolution is equally proven as they are, and has withstood the test of vastly increased knowledge over time. See, he is dogmatic. It's a religion; he adheres to it. it's now "dogmatic" to accept reality? i adhere to what is provable. i adhere to what has been shown to work. all the theories i listed have both of those qualities. i dont give equal weight to supposition. nor "a feeling". if you can disprove evolution (by formulating an alternative that meets the standard of proof), i would happily concede its basis in reality. NOBODY ever has, yet many have tried. why is that? |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27573720 United States11/12/2012 12:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | For those of you that stand on the point that People who disagree with Evolution do so because they are uneducated and have no factual evidence to back it up. You may be Correct!! Quoting: Really? 24401354 However have you ever considered (We Know you haven't) That the "Theory of Evolution" Can NOT be proven to be factual? If it could then there would be NO missing link!!!! That's right the Missing Link is a prime example of your Theory missing Fact! Now for those "Christians" in the bible where it says in the beginning the earth was without form and void. This is OUR beginning no the beginning of the universe. I cant tell you how many times the earth has been wiped clean and began anew but it clearly has. Anyway Theories are theories. You stare at a "planet" millions of miles away and make statements saying "this planet is made up of such and such gasses and has a temperature of such and such". But as of yet it has not been proven to be one hundred percent accurate. ITS ALL JUST A THEORY until someone proves it to be fact and NO theory can be used as factual evidence IN IT SELF! there is no "missing link", that's just plain horse shit. there is a well documented progression of hominid evolution from our common ancestor with chimps, to modern man. there is as well a well documented progression from the common ancestor we and chimps share with gorillas and oranguatans. and back further along the primate branch. we may well have not discovered EVERY variation thus far, but the lineage is well proven, well documented, and scientifically indisputable. it has nothing to do with archaeology. it's paleontology. they are in no way related, except for the use of shovels. it has nothing to do with astronomy. they are completely unrelated. it in no way deals with whether the earth was ever "wiped clean". it relates entirely to speciation. the fact that you try to use completely unrelated scientific disciplines to "debunk" evolution merely demonstrates you have no clue about it. check it out. there are tons of FACTS available for your perusal on the web. investigate them, sniff around the reasoning, the proofs, the confirmations that later science made. i did, which is why i defend it. |
