Secession and the Future of America | |
nimbletoes User ID: 24111930 New Zealand 12/09/2012 10:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Perhaps its part of an historical sequence that America needs to go through, as other countries have endured in their past histories--unity, collapse of that unity, rebuilding the union. Just because the 50 states might all go independent of federal power doesn't automatically mean that every individual state is going to go spinning off on in its own political and social orbit. What it does mean, IMHO, is the reformation of the old political groupings that existed in the early days. Here's a list of what the power-blocs could look like, in the event of a complete political dislocation due to too many disagreements; 1) New England (and possibly the Maritimes if Quebec goes independent) 2) Great Lakes States (NY, PA, OH, ILL, IN, WIS, MICH) and possibly WVA and KY) and Ontario IQGI) 3) The Old Confederacy 4) The Great Plains (KS, NEB, the Dakotas, MO, IA) 5) The Mountain States (NMEX, AZ, Utah, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Wyoming and Colorado) 6) West Coast (Washington, Oregon and California) |
Dr. Lecter User ID: 24275310 United States 12/09/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | i'm a self-secessionist. i've had enough of this silly game and i'm taking my ball and i'm going home. i want nothing from them. and they will get nothing from me. "Moral of the story is I chose a half measure when I should have gone all the way. I'll never make that mistake again. ==== ESTJ-a (Executive) 93% Extroverted, 82% Observant, 83% Thinking, 82% Judging,72% Assertive ==== |
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NonAlignedEntity User ID: 26696239 United States 12/09/2012 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If you think they'd allow it, you need to share what you're smoking. The controlled opposition is strong, and peoples judgement impaired. It's about bait and smash. Good luck with the shucking. Overstand, this isn't a sermon from the hill, but a 'Trespassers Will Be Shot' Sign. |
Hahahaha User ID: 28872856 United States 12/09/2012 11:52 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The FIRST thing you need to understand is that those are NOT official petitions to secede filed by the state governments. They are "popular" petitions filed by INDIVIDUALS who reside within those states. Thus far, at least 4 of the governors have stated publicly that their states will NOT secede. The SECOND thing you need to get is that NO state will EVER secede. That's because the state government is a SUBCORPORATION of the corporate federal government, and they are NOT breaking away from the mothership. They will NOT forfeit hundreds of millions in federal tax dollars. To put it succinctly, they are on the federal teat and aren't getting off of it. All this 10th Amendment talk is just populist rhetoric to get the sheeple all fired up (to perpetuate the myth that "their vote counts" and "they have a say" and that their position is represented AND -- most importantly -- that the states' rights portions of the CONstitution still hold true). Ron Paul and talk radio hosts are whipping those idiots into a frenzy. I look forward to the day when the lazy morons in this country actually sit down and READ the fucking CONstitution wiht a legal dictionary at their side. Until that happens, they will not understand the document and will continue to rely on talking heads to tell them what it says. |