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White House deluged with petitions for secession

 
Anonymous Coward
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Great idea.

The US is done. Finito.

It needs to break down into smaller nation-states. Cut ties to the leviathan fed gubmint.


bring it!
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You need to go through your state capital and not the federal government if you want your state to leave the union.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19396116


Are you all paying attention at all? This is a reflection of unhappiness and fear of what the Obama administration is capable of. It is not about sore losers or racism. If it was, you would have seen this type of thing before. This is unprecedented.

People are afraid of what Obama White House is capable of. Hopefully, he will listen and alleviate the fears. Hopefully congress will listen and see that this is not a good path to be on with the people. Read between the secession petition lines...
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How would Old Glory look with 30 stars instead of 50? As far-fetched as it may sound, the White House might soon be forced by its own rules to examine the question.

On Nov.7, the day after President Barack Obama was re-elected, the White House’s website received a petition asking the administration to allow Louisiana to secede.

If 25,000 people sign the petition by Dec. 7, it will “require a response” from the Obama administration, according to published rules of the White House’s online “We the People” program.



[link to dailycaller.com]
 Quoting: waht


I hope they all leave. If you want to disrespect our president, GET OUT!!! It's going to take work and sacrifice to get the country back on track. We don't need racist misogynist men as leaders in this country.
 Quoting: Linda's613


If this was about racism, this would have happened in 2008. Stop using the dang race card already. So annoying..
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11/12/2012 08:23 PM
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Re: White House deluged with petitions for secession
Texas is a t 40,000 +
[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
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11/12/2012 08:25 PM

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True secession isn't something you petition. It is something you DECLARE. YOU DON'T ASK FUCKIN PERMISSION TO SECEDE. You just do it.
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never thought of that, but you are of course right.
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Texas is near 24,000!!! 5a
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Ha ... that's not even .1% of the entire state population ...


Sad
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11/12/2012 08:57 PM
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repeat ......
Texas is a t 40,000 +
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Re: White House deluged with petitions for secession
42,731

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
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11/12/2012 09:11 PM
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Texas is near 24,000!!! 5a
 Quoting: Narcoleptic Shill


Ha ... that's not even .1% of the entire state population ...


Sad
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 12890265



By most accounts less than 10% of the colonists in the British Colony of America fought or believed in the Revolutionary War

same say it was as little as 3%

[link to www.urbandictionary.com]


probably over 1/3 sided and fought for the king, and the rest were neutral. Sometimes sheer numbers are not as important as their focus and passion...

Again, I am not in anyway advocating secession...however do not underestimate the importance of small but focused groups of people either

This is an expression of extreme frustration and sad sign of the polarization in this country.

As an independent I would be just as alarmed if this were a movement led by a blue state like Hawaii or Oregon

If this keeps going I'd say someone in Washington needs to say or do something in coming months to assure these people that their concerns will not be ignored or stiffled
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The goal is to trick the people in to a constitutional change and accepting a “No confidence vote”


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11/12/2012 09:55 PM
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Not a good idea to sign any petition or sign up with any political group anywhere.

The problem is right in their own state.

Petition to DC will only send them a list of names of dissidents.
 Quoting: - 27605885


They can't kill off over 100,00, so far, combined U.S. citizens. Congress has to take notice.
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That was 100,000+
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The states and their updated totals are: Louisiana, 10,296; Texas, 9196; Florida, 2392; Alabama, 2492; North Carolina, 2434; Kentucky, 1934; Mississippi, 1935; Indiana, 1951; North Dakota, 881; Montana, 1538; Colorado, 1805Oregon, 1594; New Jersey, 1492; New York, 1727; South Carolina, 117; Arkansas, 86; Georgia, 131; Missouri, 149.

The ability to create the petitions is something that the Obama administration promised and delivered on because:

“We want to hear from you. If a petition gets enough support, White House staff will review it, ensure it’s sent to the appropriate policy experts, and issue an official response.”
 Quoting: christian


Like a Hellfire missile through your front window.
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11/12/2012 10:06 PM
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True secession isn't something you petition. It is something you DECLARE. YOU DON'T ASK FUCKIN PERMISSION TO SECEDE. You just do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653


Damn right - I wish they had the balls to do it
For nothing is secret that will not be revealed…

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I also posted the following on one of the other related threads yesterday. Take heed:

>>>>>
Of all the talk and threads related to secession;
Most all of these are knee-jerk reactions that have not been thought out.

Until a proposed governmental structure (laws), revised Constitution (laws), and proposed means to address fiscal responsibilities and liabilities (laws) that would outline the state's continued operation separate from the US Federal Government and the protections defined by means of the US Constitution (as these states would surely now be at-odds with the US) - you have no idea what you're actually promoting.

This is akin to loading the family in the car for vacation, though no preparation, no packing of clothes/ food/ supplies, no determined destination, and not even a determination of direction of travel has been made. You are then traveling an unknown path, headed for unknown interactions that may well likely include many unforeseen troubles and calamities - and your family is now an integral part of this very dynamic equation. Just because there is fuel in the car doesn't mean you're prepared for the trip.

Many states are similar to my own (Colorado), in that the majority of the state is populated by working, keep-to-yourself, small government supporters. However, it is the few larger cities within said states (Denver and Boulder for example in Colorado) that overwhelm the representation of the state to be considered as a liberal one.

Of course, a majority of the citizenry are interested in returning to the "freedoms" we enjoyed in the recent past. The dangers are that, until specific language is recorded to determine the path, direction, and ultimate destination - you may well be trading off for another government that has even greater desire to influence and control your life.
 Quoting: ClydeX

let me finish your thought for you:

So its better to sit around and do nothing, so that nothing will ever change.

Since you have no backbone to stand up and be counted for something, you deserve what you get!
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Thread: Open petitions to withdraw from the Union listed here
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True secession isn't something you petition. It is something you DECLARE. YOU DON'T ASK FUCKIN PERMISSION TO SECEDE. You just do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653


Damn right - I wish they had the balls to do it
 Quoting: Girl Genius

at least from the gov't ..that's the key..form a new one and still be the USA ..i think many would stand for that!
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11/12/2012 11:37 PM
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Re: White House deluged with petitions for secession
No wonder....
The Gubment...

Bought 450 million rounds of ammo
Setting up Fema camps
60,000 drones
Millions of emergency meals
Bullet proof booths
Millions of plastic coffins
Mock roadside checkpoints
O's version of the NDA act
Now allows military action on our soil
Wants gun control
and more...

Its sad that the idiots in DC are destroying this country, but then again, I am beginning to believe that is the plan.
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11/13/2012 12:38 AM
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True secession isn't something you petition. It is something you DECLARE. YOU DON'T ASK FUCKIN PERMISSION TO SECEDE. You just do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653


THIS.
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notice that the tag line on the whitehouse petition page says "your voice in our government" I thought it was our voice in our government. Well that's what I was taught in School. Oh well
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True secession isn't something you petition. It is something you DECLARE. YOU DON'T ASK FUCKIN PERMISSION TO SECEDE. You just do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653


THIS.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27531391


+1
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11/13/2012 12:58 AM
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say hello to operation round-up

the folks who signed these petitions
will be the first detainees at
Camp FEMA.
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11/13/2012 01:09 AM
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I personally seceded a long time ago I don't care wtf the rest of you people do.I didn't vote for this administration or the one before it so my hands are clean.I've been sayin it for 25 damn years you bleeding heart liberals will be the death of this country and now I'm sitting back watching it fall apart one unread bill and regulation at a time.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15292827


You were doing fine until you went off on the typical GLP 'dem dang librals' whine fest.

I don't think it was Liberals that voted for Bush for 8 yrs was it buddy?
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Because John Kerry or Al Gore would have been much better? LOL!
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11/13/2012 01:28 AM
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These petitions will be ignored. They will receive no real media attention and life will go on as the gubmint sees fit.....just my prediction.
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hehe...i also see quite a few more tax audits comin up for the new year. enjoy.
oridin
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11/13/2012 01:32 AM
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these petition sites are hosted on
gubmint servers

rules of engagement

1) You don't warn them you are coming.

2) You don't give them actual numbers of people involved

3) You don't give them your name and address

4) You don't ask their permission to do so

5) You don't share intel with the enemy

you are doing all the above when
you participate in this petition

did this not arouse your suspicion ??
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Anybody who puts their name and address on the whitehhouse website for anything but fawning praise is just asking to be put on a DHS watch list.

Besides, those petitions are not coming from the states so they don't matter at all. Any real secession effort would have to go through the state legislatures and governors first and there would have to be a vote of congress. Not gonna happen. Hell, we can't even impeach the lying treasonous marxist in the Whitehouse. What makes anybody with half a brain think congress would vote to allow the states to secede?
 Quoting: Resister


100% correct
Life's a journey not a destination,how high can you fly with broken wings
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An idea, those time has come...

Thinking heglian:

When a development has reached its peak, the matter breaks into the opposite turn.

For instance, a one world government.
The opposite here would be, each one is his own government.

Reality sure will show in the course of centuries the reasonable proportion.
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30 states will be succeeding from the Union.
5a
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That would be very sad.
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These petitions will be ignored. They will receive no real media attention and life will go on as the gubmint sees fit.....just my prediction.
 Quoting: Dried Up Hag


I believe you are correct. However, at this point in time, the real reason for these petitions is to put our elected officials "On Notice" that we are fed up. This is much like the "Committees of Correspondence" and the First Continental Congress that sent letters of greivance to King George. The Colonists knews damn well that the King would not listen to them, but they also knew that to sit back and do nothing was not the answer either.
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True secession isn't something you petition. It is something you DECLARE. YOU DON'T ASK FUCKIN PERMISSION TO SECEDE. You just do it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16764653


Damn right - I wish they had the balls to do it
 Quoting: Girl Genius


They will, but it will come at a particular time and circumstances. The American Colonists were very patient with the abuses of the Crown and they, like us now, were petitioning their leaders to change course, sending letters of greivance, etc. However, one thing and one thing only really lit the fuse and that was Lexington and Concord.

I hope it does not get to that as it will be a very destablizing event in our Nation's history that will take many decades to recover.

The more these abuses go on by D.C., the more I respect our Founding Fathers for what they had to endure and the decisions they had to make.

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