BREAKING - Texas Secession Petition just keeps growing and growing! | |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23763668 11/13/2012 01:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | total signers in ALL states Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23763668 now up to 100,000. that size force took Normandy back from the Germans sh!t is getting serious now You realize one person can vote for all of these, right? You can't add them together and say that's the total number of people. I guess when they show up on your doorstep you can count them personally. |
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| Shelgeyr User ID: 6321116 11/13/2012 01:40 AM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Re: Texas v. White It won't matter, i.e. citing "Texas v. White" will be like arguing with the weather. So the Supreme Court unilaterally decided in 1869 that: "6. When Texas became one of the United States, she entered into an indissoluble relation. The union between Texas and the other States was as complete, as perpetual, and as indissoluble as the union between the original States. There was no place for reconsideration or revocation, except through revolution or through consent of the States. 7. Considered as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention, and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law. The State did not cease to be a State, nor her citizens to be citizens of the Union." ...that was THEIR post-war opinion, which would have held no sway - at all - had it taken place during the war (please overlook the absurd logic that would have been required for the case to have been filed under those circumstances), OR if the Confederacy had prevailed. Don't get me wrong - I'm glad the Confederacy lost. Always have been. But this is a victor's ruling. And to think "Texas v. White" would actually matter when placed up against the active will of the present living populace is to be delusional. Texas may or may not secede. But if they don't, it won't be because everyone suddenly looked around and said "Oh, guess we'd better give up 'cause 'Texas v. White' says we can't do this!" THAT is even less likely than secession itself. |
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| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 24094200 11/13/2012 02:37 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I am sure most Texans would gladly accept any of you god loving, gun lovin liberal hating folks any time. I know I would. WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27568470 11/13/2012 03:38 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | As a non-Texan I do think that Texas (and California) "could" survive as independent economic countries, whereas most others states, and even some entire regions could NOT. 25,000,000 people is clearly enough people for creating a country. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25450407 I will point out though with current Demographic trends Hispanics WILL outnumber Whites in Texas by 2020, and when combined with Blacks (about 12% of the population), the current minorities in that State will greatly outnumber Whites by then. And then, don't forget about Mecha. Are they still very active ? This is a movement which, in a nation with this kind of a population, might be a strong influence for "bonding" with the mother country (by which I mean Mexico). All kinds of things could happen. Well, then, they should just send ALL the mexicans back to mexico and all the blacks to africa Please cut the c***. Mecha was a very strong influence on American campuses a decade ago. You don't see them mentioned much in the news anymore, but that doesn't mean anything. Their motto is or was "All for the race (la raza), nothing for the others". La raza is supposed to be the "bronze" people, the Mexican aboriginals - the Aztecs and such. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27568470 11/13/2012 03:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It does NOT count unless you LIVE in the state of Texas.....Sooooooo...just signing a petition for the SAKE of Texas, or any other state....will not Count unless you LIVE Quoting: saturn12 there ...and you read that rule where? It just makes sense, doesn't it ? What sense would there be in me, living in New York City (just as an example), petitioning for the secession of California ? It's the Californians' business, not mine, whether California should secede or shouldn't. |
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| Anderson_G User ID: 27662787 11/13/2012 03:48 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | It does NOT count unless you LIVE in the state of Texas.....Sooooooo...just signing a petition for the SAKE of Texas, or any other state....will not Count unless you LIVE Quoting: saturn12 there ...and you read that rule where? It just makes sense, doesn't it ? What sense would there be in me, living in New York City (just as an example), petitioning for the secession of California ? It's the Californians' business, not mine, whether California should secede or shouldn't. correct its the peoples choice Anderson_G Always expect the unexpected and beware of nasty things pretending to be nice. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1392221 11/13/2012 03:57 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | The petition (not "vote"), is to allow Texas to peacefully withdraw from the Union. Anyone can be in favor of that. Also, this is at a public DIY petition site, so it isn't topic- or constituency-constrained. Don't assume or invent restrictions where there aren't any... |
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| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 11/13/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would this allow for the withdrawal from USA ? or will it disappear in a cupboard some where ? People really don't seem to understand. This is an indicator,a strong indicator, of discontent. If what is causing this anger and discontent isn't fixed, and it won't be, it will get worse. It took around 10-15 years from when the first disagreements surfaced for the 1st American revolution to begin. I don't know where on the timeline we presently are but we are definitely on it. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26295520 11/13/2012 05:48 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would this allow for the withdrawal from USA ? or will it disappear in a cupboard some where ? People really don't seem to understand. This is an indicator,a strong indicator, of discontent. If what is causing this anger and discontent isn't fixed, and it won't be, it will get worse. It took around 10-15 years from when the first disagreements surfaced for the 1st American revolution to begin. I don't know where on the timeline we presently are but we are definitely on it. I know for us here in Texas, we know that Perry is willing to do this. He has stated it before. Last time, it didn't get enough MSM coverage, but this is 4 years later, and more internet sights, so.... He will see that the people of Texas are really fed up with our government, we are trying to say NO to Obama care, say NO to taking out 2nd and 10th amendment away, etc... we of course could go on for hours listing the complaints. |
| zenobiaphobia Dancing to the beat of a skinless drum User ID: 27692900 11/13/2012 05:54 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I want to know is where do we deport them to? What country would take 25,000 former Americans on short notice? [link to www.weeklystandard.com] "A White House petition gathering force calls for citizenship to be stripped and exile for anyone who signs a petition in favor of a state's secession. "Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported," the full petition reads." Last Edited by zenobiaphobia on 11/13/2012 05:54 PM Books relevant to our current situation will appear here at random: [link to www.bopsecrets.org] |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 11/13/2012 06:00 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would this allow for the withdrawal from USA ? or will it disappear in a cupboard some where ? People really don't seem to understand. This is an indicator,a strong indicator, of discontent. If what is causing this anger and discontent isn't fixed, and it won't be, it will get worse. It took around 10-15 years from when the first disagreements surfaced for the 1st American revolution to begin. I don't know where on the timeline we presently are but we are definitely on it. I know for us here in Texas, we know that Perry is willing to do this. He has stated it before. Last time, it didn't get enough MSM coverage, but this is 4 years later, and more internet sights, so.... He will see that the people of Texas are really fed up with our government, we are trying to say NO to Obama care, say NO to taking out 2nd and 10th amendment away, etc... we of course could go on for hours listing the complaints. "We of course could go on for hours listing the complaints" Eventually the time for action will arrive. |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 11/13/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I want to know is where do we deport them to? What country would take 25,000 former Americans on short notice? Quoting: zenobiaphobia [link to www.weeklystandard.com] "A White House petition gathering force calls for citizenship to be stripped and exile for anyone who signs a petition in favor of a state's secession. "Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported," the full petition reads." Lines are being drawn. |
| s. d. butler User ID: 974819 11/13/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | What I want to know is where do we deport them to? What country would take 25,000 former Americans on short notice? Quoting: zenobiaphobia [link to www.weeklystandard.com] "A White House petition gathering force calls for citizenship to be stripped and exile for anyone who signs a petition in favor of a state's secession. "Mr. President, please sign an executive order such that each American citizen who signed a petition from any state to secede from the USA shall have their citizenship stripped and be peacefully deported," the full petition reads." I guess these morans think obama is a czar with no checks on power and can unilaterally act in this matter. But then that is part of the problem, people who have no understanding of the rule of law. |
| Anderson_G User ID: 27662787 11/13/2012 06:08 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | would this allow for the withdrawal from USA ? or will it disappear in a cupboard some where ? People really don't seem to understand. This is an indicator,a strong indicator, of discontent. If what is causing this anger and discontent isn't fixed, and it won't be, it will get worse. It took around 10-15 years from when the first disagreements surfaced for the 1st American revolution to begin. I don't know where on the timeline we presently are but we are definitely on it. ah ok thanks for clearing that up just hope it comes about peacefully Anderson_G Always expect the unexpected and beware of nasty things pretending to be nice. |
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| Anderson_G User ID: 27662787 11/13/2012 06:43 PM ![]() Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | good riddance that state sucks anyway.. nothing but a bunch of inbred, cattle fucking, rednecks that swear they still live in the 1800's.. i hope they get their wish and mexico decides to invade them. Quoting: 4Q_Texas 5044555 dog says chill bra Anderson_G Always expect the unexpected and beware of nasty things pretending to be nice. |