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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1622717  United States11/12/2012 05:21 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1486701 United States11/12/2012 05:22 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723 There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. You betta recognize ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723 There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. You betta recognize See Texas code 3100.055 (b)(1) which repudiates your comment on the flag. As to the legality of secession, dig a little deeper. First of all, AGAIN, State law does not trump federal law. And secondly, I love how you quote the code 3100.055 b1, while IGNORING 3100.055 a, which states that the US flag is to be flown ABOVE the Texas flag. i dont know what the fucking codes say, but i live here and see them every single day at the same height |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9266723 United States11/12/2012 05:26 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | See Texas code 3100.055 (b)(1) which repudiates your comment on the flag. As to the legality of secession, dig a little deeper. First of all, AGAIN, State law does not trump federal law. And secondly, I love how you quote the code 3100.055 b1, while IGNORING 3100.055 a, which states that the US flag is to be flown ABOVE the Texas flag. i dont know what the fucking codes say, but i live here and see them every single day at the same height Because there's nothing in federal law saying they can't fly at the same height. Federal law only states that the flag cannot be flown underneath a state flag, or on a pole that is shorter then the one a state flag is on. |
TechRaider User ID: 8668963 United States11/12/2012 05:28 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will I recognize the Muslim Brotherhood flag when it starts to fly? Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson |
| wishiwas User ID: 19081353 United States11/12/2012 05:30 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im a Texan and EVERYBODY who isn't on welfare or gay I know didnt vote for Obama and wants to secede. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25923101 Nothing against gays, but anyone with a brain knows Obama just wants to appeal to them for more votes.. I signed it, and told everyone I know to. I hope it goes through. Obama supporters should be put in their own state if they want a dictatorship. They are. It's named Illinois. And unfortunately, I was born here too. And since I was injured by a douchebag who shattered my pelvis, I am stuck for the time being. Planned on being out of this hellhole this year, but now we are stuck til next year. Expect some company next year. And we are libertarian, so we should get along just fine! :) |
| Apocalypse Troll Trollicus Apocalyptus User ID: 23982982 United States11/12/2012 05:31 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flagtard can't read. How the fuck does someone fly 2 flags on the same pole at the same height? Read the code again shitbrain - and Texas code is observed in Texas in regards to our flag. It appers that state trumps bullshit federal regs once again. Last Edited by Apocalypse Troll on 11/12/2012 05:32 PM  "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." [link to www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9266723 United States11/12/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| TraderRob User ID: 8968876 United States11/12/2012 05:33 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not either... I understand the frustration but 'we' are not there yet. I am of the belief that Obama will be a lot more moderate his second terms... oil independence is on the horizon. There is hope that we will get through this. |
| eljefeUTEXAS User ID: 24957572 United States11/12/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, so if you manage to break away and make your own little country, what happens when the next hurricane hits the gulf? No FEMA for you.I was in Galveston area during IKE, nobody used FEMA, people did not bitch they just worked their ass off and rebuilt. Everyone has generators THAT THEY BOUGHT for air conditioning ect... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16006480 What happens when your highways need repair? I worked for TxDOT on the roads and they are stretched thin to say the least (new highways seeking funding from private companies...toll roads). BUT as far as maintenance we pay enough sales tax to keep the roads safe and in great condition. We are getting FUCKED by sending our taxes to poor ass Louisiana and others to fix THEIR shitty roads What happens to funding for public education?you dont have a fucking clue how the education system works pal What happens to government research and grant money that universities and grad students in Texas rely on for education and research? you think these great universities (UT grad here) are going to close shop? They would benefit from increased out of country tuition, and hopefully would research things that would HELP THE REGION THEY ARE LOCATED IN. What happens to the millions who rely on Medicaid and SCHIP for health care? we do not pay state income tax, but we do pay federal income taxes, and that money would be put into a smaller, more effective stream of revenue for health care programs. This eliminates a ton of waste by giving our money to idiots in washington. Better build up your own Army, once other countries realize you're vulnerable they'll dive right in - The US won't send help, you're on your own. We would still likely be allies with U.S. If you get a batch of comtaminated food the FDA won't be forthcoming about where it orignated from - you'll have to take care of that yourself. You might want to create your own CDC too. If there is a pandemic you'll be on your own for tracking patient zero and developing a vaccine. swine flu? bah I could go on, but you get the picture I hope. I predict chaos, civil unrest and the rise of warlords. |
| TSWB21 User ID: 1267719 United States11/12/2012 05:44 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone ever made a petition to make English the official language of the united states? M.I.B Utopian agenda credentials ................................ Unit 21 of Shadow division Galactic federation omni connection certification. 1000k of light permit Agenda 21 cert. Green/Blue Code of GFOL cert. Backlog unit cert. Galactic Front of Alien drone operation cert. |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States11/12/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, so if you manage to break away and make your own little country, what happens when the next hurricane hits the gulf? No FEMA for you.I was in Galveston area during IKE, nobody used FEMA, people did not bitch they just worked their ass off and rebuilt. Everyone has generators THAT THEY BOUGHT for air conditioning ect... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16006480 What happens when your highways need repair? I worked for TxDOT on the roads and they are stretched thin to say the least (new highways seeking funding from private companies...toll roads). BUT as far as maintenance we pay enough sales tax to keep the roads safe and in great condition. We are getting FUCKED by sending our taxes to poor ass Louisiana and others to fix THEIR shitty roads What happens to funding for public education?you dont have a fucking clue how the education system works pal What happens to government research and grant money that universities and grad students in Texas rely on for education and research? you think these great universities (UT grad here) are going to close shop? They would benefit from increased out of country tuition, and hopefully would research things that would HELP THE REGION THEY ARE LOCATED IN. What happens to the millions who rely on Medicaid and SCHIP for health care? we do not pay state income tax, but we do pay federal income taxes, and that money would be put into a smaller, more effective stream of revenue for health care programs. This eliminates a ton of waste by giving our money to idiots in washington. Better build up your own Army, once other countries realize you're vulnerable they'll dive right in - The US won't send help, you're on your own. We would still likely be allies with U.S. If you get a batch of comtaminated food the FDA won't be forthcoming about where it orignated from - you'll have to take care of that yourself. You might want to create your own CDC too. If there is a pandemic you'll be on your own for tracking patient zero and developing a vaccine. swine flu? bah I could go on, but you get the picture I hope. I predict chaos, civil unrest and the rise of warlords. If we're speaking hypothetically, Texas currently has no state income tax if it were independent, it could institute a new 10% flat income tax (like Hong Kong or Russia have) raise billions, and still be a more attractive business center just sayin' |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States11/12/2012 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone ever made a petition to make English the official language of the united states? Quoting: TSWB21 yes, and they have failed every time [link to www.us-english.org] [link to www.gopetition.com] [link to www.thepetitionsite.com] more: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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| Travis Bickle (OP) User ID: 26788702 United States11/12/2012 05:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | By signing THIS petition as well... We may get a little further. [link to www.change.org] This one is a petition to the Federal Election Commision One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19992683 United States11/12/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When they joined the union, I think they had the get out clause. Obama is the treason. Not Texans. Quoting: NightWisp This right here... Texas is called the Lone Star State because of that clause. They were apprehensive about joining the Union and wanted a get out of jail card which they have or had, not sure if its changed. its also the only flag that can be raides to the same height as the american flag There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. Wrong. Any state can secede if they want to. It's just after the Civil War, secession has become a sort of taboo subject in the eyes of the federal government. That Supreme Court ruling you're talking about, not only was it ruled just a few years after the North won, but US Supreme Court decisions don't even matter to a seceding state. Know your history. This country was founded on voluntarism. 13 colonies seceded from Britain. At one point, New England was seriously considering secession. This country encourages other countries to secede from oppressive governments -- i.e., countries that seceded from the Soviets. Talk of secession is an American right. And if a state chooses to voluntarily leave the Union, they have every right. |
| TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States11/12/2012 05:55 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone ever made a petition to make English the official language of the united states? Quoting: TSWB21 I think it is up to the states. English is the legal language for Arizona. Over 1/2 the states declare English as the official language, Hawaii also has Hawaiian as an official language. Last Edited by TTX8K82 on 11/12/2012 06:02 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1382145 United States11/12/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Texas were to sucessfully secede, the southern and western states would soon follow. Then the west coast, and finally the midwest would all go their seperate ways. We would break up into at least 6 countries, maybe more. But does anyone actually think the feds would just roll over and let this happen? Didn't think so. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9266723 United States11/12/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: A Friend This right here... Texas is called the Lone Star State because of that clause. They were apprehensive about joining the Union and wanted a get out of jail card which they have or had, not sure if its changed. its also the only flag that can be raides to the same height as the american flag There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. Wrong. Any state can secede if they want to. It's just after the Civil War, secession has become a sort of taboo subject in the eyes of the federal government. That Supreme Court ruling you're talking about, not only was it ruled just a few years after the North won, but US Supreme Court decisions don't even matter to a seceding state. Know your history. This country was founded on voluntarism. 13 colonies seceded from Britain. At one point, New England was seriously considering secession. This country encourages other countries to secede from oppressive governments -- i.e., countries that seceded from the Soviets. Talk of secession is an American right. And if a state chooses to voluntarily leave the Union, they have every right. You can say that if you want, but the legal word is that it is illegal. Sure, Texas can do what they want if they are willing to fight the US to do it, but... that's not the same as a petition to leave. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27556375 Canada11/12/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, so if you manage to break away and make your own little country, what happens when the next hurricane hits the gulf? No FEMA for you.I was in Galveston area during IKE, nobody used FEMA, people did not bitch they just worked their ass off and rebuilt. Everyone has generators THAT THEY BOUGHT for air conditioning ect... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16006480 What happens when your highways need repair? I worked for TxDOT on the roads and they are stretched thin to say the least (new highways seeking funding from private companies...toll roads). BUT as far as maintenance we pay enough sales tax to keep the roads safe and in great condition. We are getting FUCKED by sending our taxes to poor ass Louisiana and others to fix THEIR shitty roads What happens to funding for public education?you dont have a fucking clue how the education system works pal What happens to government research and grant money that universities and grad students in Texas rely on for education and research? you think these great universities (UT grad here) are going to close shop? They would benefit from increased out of country tuition, and hopefully would research things that would HELP THE REGION THEY ARE LOCATED IN. What happens to the millions who rely on Medicaid and SCHIP for health care? we do not pay state income tax, but we do pay federal income taxes, and that money would be put into a smaller, more effective stream of revenue for health care programs. This eliminates a ton of waste by giving our money to idiots in washington. Better build up your own Army, once other countries realize you're vulnerable they'll dive right in - The US won't send help, you're on your own. We would still likely be allies with U.S. If you get a batch of comtaminated food the FDA won't be forthcoming about where it orignated from - you'll have to take care of that yourself. You might want to create your own CDC too. If there is a pandemic you'll be on your own for tracking patient zero and developing a vaccine. swine flu? bah I could go on, but you get the picture I hope. I predict chaos, civil unrest and the rise of warlords. If we're speaking hypothetically, Texas currently has no state income tax if it were independent, it could institute a new 10% flat income tax (like Hong Kong or Russia have) raise billions, and still be a more attractive business center just sayin' ... Quoting: A Friend This right here... Texas is called the Lone Star State because of that clause. They were apprehensive about joining the Union and wanted a get out of jail card which they have or had, not sure if its changed. its also the only flag that can be raides to the same height as the american flag There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. Wrong. Any state can secede if they want to. It's just after the Civil War, secession has become a sort of taboo subject in the eyes of the federal government. That Supreme Court ruling you're talking about, not only was it ruled just a few years after the North won, but US Supreme Court decisions don't even matter to a seceding state. Know your history. This country was founded on voluntarism. 13 colonies seceded from Britain. At one point, New England was seriously considering secession. This country encourages other countries to secede from oppressive governments -- i.e., countries that seceded from the Soviets. Talk of secession is an American right. And if a state chooses to voluntarily leave the Union, they have every right. Go my American Brothers!!! |
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| Éireann Eisteacht le gra! User ID: 27571136 United States11/12/2012 06:07 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was number 32, 724 This Texan has had it. Last Edited by Éireann on 11/12/2012 06:08 PM Éireann~ Eisteacht le gra! ~ArunaLuna (Translation from Gaelic: "Listen to Love!") "And I sincerely believe, with you, that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity, under the name of funding, is but swindling futurity on a large scale." - Thomas Jefferson, from a Letter to John Taylor written in 1816 "Struggle against patriarchy is global and intimate and seemingly un-winnable and absolutely necessary. Fukn deep sigh yo." - dream hampton @dreamhampton "Unfortunately, it is in the nature of man to tinker - even with immutable truth. Thus, we must be ever vigilant.." - James Munford You can educate the ignorant, but you can't fix stupid! *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ I do not give negative Karma. I believe that all opinions are worthy of debate and discussion. Free speech is essential to the growth and advancement of each individual and all of Humankind. |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Moderator User ID: 823577 United States11/12/2012 06:09 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and Texas will be free to put the cartels down without having to worry about a bunch of federal liberal whinetards having a heart bleed fest. Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided. "Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom "A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool." -- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564. |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States11/12/2012 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lmfao Texas rangers would eliminate the drug cartel on the border. The only thing which keeps them from doing it now is the Federal government which for some insane reason does not permit cities and property owners on the border to protect themselves Furthermore, Mexico would have an interest in siding with the new country Did you know that when Quebec was seriously considering seceding from Canada, that the Clinton administration sent representatives to Quebec to indicate Quebec would be welcome as a protectorate of the United States or as an ally? I will find the link to the story which later confirmed what I had heard from people I know in DC Very often energy and business rich provinces who seek to break away are given money and encouragement by countries in competition with the parent state Again, I am not saying I wish this to happen...I would prefer that we were not as polarized as a nation I am merely pointing out what has happened in other places (and could have happened to Canada as well had Quebec been successful in their independence movement) Last Edited by IssueX on 11/12/2012 06:13 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7794073 United States11/12/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lmfao Texas rangers would eliminate the drug cartel on the border. The only thing which keeps them from doing it now is the Federal government which for some insane reason does not permit cities and property owners on the border to protect themselves Furthermore, Mexico would have an interest in siding with the new country Did you know that when Quebec was seriously considering seceding from Canada, that the Clinton administration sent representatives to Quebec to indicate Quebec would be welcome as a protectorate of the United States or as an ally? I will find the link to the story which later confirmed what I had heard from people I know in DC Very often energy and business rich provinces who seek to break away are given money and encouragement by countries in competition with the parent state Again, I am not saying I wish this to happen...I would prefer that we were not as polarized as a nation I am merely pointing out what has happened in other places (and could have happened to Canada as well had Quebec been successful in their independence movement) testify |
