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BREAKING - Texas Secession Petition just keeps growing and growing!

 
TSWB21

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Please sign the Alaska Petition

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

Alaskans would like to be free of DC and enter into mutually beneficial treaties with Texas, Montana and other freedom loving countries. Alaska is chock full of oil, gold and other minerals but the Imperial Federal Govt has locked up 70% of the State and makes the other 30% nearly impossible to develop.
 Quoting: Burt Gummer44


Quoting from the text at the top of the petition:

There is a commonly held belief across Alaska, that the US Constitution has been set aside, and other then ourselves, there are no protections to the liberty and freedoms we are to have as our continued inheritance since the formation of the Union of the "several States"

Hate to be a grammar nazi, but the bolded word should be "than". Good luck with the petition!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


Writs of protest are not an English class.
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11/12/2012 10:28 PM

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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


Heck no I didn't sign it! NO I did not forget and NO one else in my house signed it either.

Maybe they pulled my IP address because I looked at the petition a couple of times today.

I'll rest my router tonight and pick up a new IP address in the morning.

If I cant sign it tomorrow...then I know something funny is going on.
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11/12/2012 10:29 PM
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Let them secede. Then the US can bomb the hell out of them and turn Texas into a parking lot. Fucking treasonous bastards...
 Quoting: MidwestGuy 26703676

You don't know what you are saying.
MarkinAZ

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California has enough of an economy to support itself as a country. Does Texas? I wonder what it's GDP would be if it were to succeed?

Interesting thought, eh?
TSWB21

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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


Its part of the elitist position . They are just placing names on there.

Its George Bush's fault.
Soap

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11/12/2012 10:31 PM
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Has this ever happened before?
When you choose to stand up for truth it will make most people uneasy, because it contradicts their own wisdom and mindset, and most people do not like it when this happens. Truth will rock the boat, it will force changes, it will purge everything that is not rooted in [and founded on] truth, but it is always for good. Regardless of the opposition and short term setback that truth may suffer, and whether or not it can find someone who is willing to stand up for it, truth will ultimately win.
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Re: BREAKING - Texas Secession Petition just keeps growing and growing!
I fear that if they secede, Mexico will take them over....
Full circle? Karma? ha ha
 Quoting: Geezer


General Dynamics used to have facilities in Texas. I think they built F-16's there in Fort Worth.

Texas Instruments is there.

NASA Mission Control is there.

Plenty of other high-tech and defense oriented stuff is in Texas. Ingenious Texans would find a way to apply this if needed in a border war.

Mexico wouldn't have a shadow of a chance.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


Vought,Bell helicopter,aerospecial,ratheon and a buttlaod of others too.
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 10:32 PM
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Truth is if the u.s federal government had a brain , they would see it as a plus. Texas could break away with LA . Give the states a year of military protection.Allow the states to build their own military's and control their own borders.It would allow the states to be removed from federal requirements on oil drilling, refinery production, etc.It would bring down the price of fuel in the u.s with trade. Because the states arent going to join any opec, or U.N bullshit.

But then again the federal government is trying to destroy the u.s not fix it. They are pulling for the one world government.
 Quoting: TSWB21


Interesting post. Let the non-border USA maintain its "open borders" philosophy and let the border states crack down and do what's needed along the border. In return, Texas gets free of the federal mandates.

The problem is, Texas is supposed to help pay the national debt. If they slip out of the union, they escape that. Remember that the purpose of the Constitution was to form a "more perfect union" making all states responsible for the national debt; before that the creditors couldn't really find anyone willing to pay under the Articles of Confederation.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27304459


That is a big problem. Let the u.s default on their currency and debt.If Washington cant pay it. Maybe they can just get the queen of England to loan them the money.The federal reserve is their baby anyway.

hehehehe

afro
 Quoting: TSWB21


If the US just defaulted, so many problems would be solved that our politics would be entirely different, and nobody would put up with the kind of shit Obama (and W, and even Clinton) are/were doing. Even Obama wouldn't act that way, probably! The current issues would largely go away.

This whole thing, the difficult choices, the insane political pressures and fracturing, are intimately tied to that unpayable ballooning debt.
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 10:33 PM
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Pfff. Texas ain't going nowhere.
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 10:33 PM
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Has this ever happened before?
 Quoting: Soap


The Texan Nationalist party once collected a million signatures in 2009. Nothing came of it.
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11/12/2012 10:34 PM
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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


Heck no I didn't sign it! NO I did not forget and NO one else in my house signed it either.

Maybe they pulled my IP address because I looked at the petition a couple of times today.

I'll rest my router tonight and pick up a new IP address in the morning.

If I cant sign it tomorrow...then I know something funny is going on.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


I haven't signed (And don't want to) so I don't know how it works, but it's possible it detected you signing it by accident. If you etnereted your name at any point, maybe check in recent signatures?
Shelgeyr

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11/12/2012 10:35 PM

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I fear that if they secede, Mexico will take them over....
Full circle? Karma? ha ha
 Quoting: Geezer


You apparently know nothing about our defenses, our infrastructure, our industry, our resources... Just best to probably say "you don't know what you're talking about".

Now there's a newsflash...
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 10:36 PM
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Re: BREAKING - Texas Secession Petition just keeps growing and growing!
California has enough of an economy to support itself as a country. Does Texas? I wonder what it's GDP would be if it were to succeed?

Interesting thought, eh?
 Quoting: MarkinAZ


#1 economy in the USA at the moment, creator of over half all jobs created in the US since 2008

Jobless rate under 7% and set to have a record budget surplus

We're not too worried here in Texas, lolol
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 10:40 PM
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25K treason jackets,hummm ,about a month.
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Stop taking stupid pills. You do not make any sense.
Anonymous Coward
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I fear that if they secede, Mexico will take them over....
Full circle? Karma? ha ha
 Quoting: Geezer


you cant be serious.....crazy
Anonymous Coward
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Re: BREAKING - Texas Secession Petition just keeps growing and growing!
Let's suppose for an instant Texas has seceded and is now an independent republic.

What if Mexico, who has resented having lost Texas for a long time if I am not mistaken, attacks Texas in a sudden war of conquest in an attempt to get it back for good ?

Will the US (of the 49 statesq) step in ?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27568470
...what if Mexico offers Texas to be part of Mexico and they agree without war? lol
 Quoting: T Ceti H.C. Radnarg

More likely I suppose, as that other poster said, they might join forces as they have many common interests. Economic I suppose and maybe military ?
CowgirlK

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11/12/2012 10:41 PM

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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


Heck no I didn't sign it! NO I did not forget and NO one else in my house signed it either.

Maybe they pulled my IP address because I looked at the petition a couple of times today.

I'll rest my router tonight and pick up a new IP address in the morning.

If I cant sign it tomorrow...then I know something funny is going on.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


I haven't signed (And don't want to) so I don't know how it works, but it's possible it detected you signing it by accident. If you etnereted your name at any point, maybe check in recent signatures?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


NOPE...I thought long and hard about signing it because I figure everyone who signs will be put on a "special list" if you know what I mean.

After thinking about it all day and reading this thread, I decided "What the Hell...I'm a Texan!"

The gov can put me on all the lists they want to because I'm standing up for what I believe...In other words, "I'm going to die with my boots on!"

No petition mistakes here...
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 10:41 PM
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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


It happened to me, too. You can go to a place to sign the petition with your name and zipcode.
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11/12/2012 10:43 PM

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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


Heck no I didn't sign it! NO I did not forget and NO one else in my house signed it either.

Maybe they pulled my IP address because I looked at the petition a couple of times today.

I'll rest my router tonight and pick up a new IP address in the morning.

If I cant sign it tomorrow...then I know something funny is going on.
 Quoting: CowgirlK



No... It's not that. In order to sign the petition you must enter your info, then go to your e-mail... Once there, you have to copy and paste the link into your browser. (Probably to further thwart bots and automation) After pasting the link, then you still have to click to sign.

It didn't happen without you knowing, unless someone else signed it and the cookie is still in your temp files.

Your router has nothing to do with it. Clear your history, clear your cookies and try again.
One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets.
CowgirlK

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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


It happened to me, too. You can go to a place to sign the petition with your name and zipcode.
 Quoting: Daughter


Thank you...I'll give it a try. Is it on the same petition page somewhere?
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Has this ever happened before?
 Quoting: Soap


On MUCH smaller levels... Texas spoke of it, a couple of states wanted to secede from the other half of their state, but NOTHING as large as this. (Except for maybe with Abraham Lincoln)

The site gives Obama the right to ignore the petitions, but as large as this is, can Congress?
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11/12/2012 10:46 PM
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Has this ever happened before?
 Quoting: Soap


On MUCH smaller levels... Texas spoke of it, a couple of states wanted to secede from the other half of their state, but NOTHING as large as this. (Except for maybe with Abraham Lincoln)

The site gives Obama the right to ignore the petitions, but as large as this is, can Congress?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15676325


Considering they're not up for election for 2 years, and by then 95% of the people will have forgotten about this... yeah, I'd say they can.
Shelgeyr

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Let them secede. Then the US can bomb the hell out of them and turn Texas into a parking lot. Fucking treasonous bastards...
 Quoting: MidwestGuy 26703676

You don't know what you are saying.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27568470


Oh, he does... It's just that he's an idiot, has anger issues, and lets emotions rule what passes for reason within his limited understanding of the complexities of life. His knee-jerk use of ill-chosen and overly-common obscenities belies a basic lack of eloquence and education. He is a self-wielded tool, and not the sharpest in the drawer. And he is no fun at parties.

In other words; even if he has been given the finest education known to man, and has a string of doctoral accolades trailing his name and entitling his reputation, "it don't mean 'nuthin' 'cause it obviously din't take!"

Or at least that's my read on the situation. Your mileage may vary.
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The only state that declared their secession in 1860 was South Carolina on 20 December 1860. Six other states declared secession between then and Lincoln's inauguration on 4 March 1861. When the Civil War began at Fort Sumter on 12 April 1861 four additional states opted to secede.

[link to wiki.answers.com]

"History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme."
-Mark Twain

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11/12/2012 10:49 PM
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I fear that if they secede, Mexico will take them over....
Full circle? Karma? ha ha
 Quoting: Geezer


You apparently know nothing about our defenses, our infrastructure, our industry, our resources... Just best to probably say "you don't know what you're talking about".

Now there's a newsflash...
 Quoting: Shelgeyr


Over 10,000 Corporate Headquarters just in DFW

[link to en.wikipedia.org]

Dell computers in Austin, most of the major oil companies in Houston

More fortune 500 companies than California last I heard

CEO Magazine:  What Keeps Texas on Top:

[link to chiefexecutive.net]

Millions flee California because of progressive tax system


[link to dailycaller.com]

California companies flock to Texas cities, but not to Houston
[link to www.bizjournals.com]

Cost reason companies move from CA to Texas, speaker says in Austin
[link to www.bizjournals.com]
Anonymous Coward
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11/12/2012 10:51 PM
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I decided to measure the signature speed of this petition, so I took note of a few counts during a 20 minute time span, starting at 4:24 AM (Central European Time) and ending 4:44 AM.

4:24 count was 48,254
4:44 49,489

Difference = 1,235
which makes a signature speed of 1,235/20 = 61,5 sigs/minute
CowgirlK

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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK


Uh. Isn't it possible you did and forgot? Or someone else in your house did already? Considering the number is still going up fine I really doubt they're stopping people from signing it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9266723


Heck no I didn't sign it! NO I did not forget and NO one else in my house signed it either.

Maybe they pulled my IP address because I looked at the petition a couple of times today.

I'll rest my router tonight and pick up a new IP address in the morning.

If I cant sign it tomorrow...then I know something funny is going on.
 Quoting: CowgirlK



No... It's not that. In order to sign the petition you must enter your info, then go to your e-mail... Once there, you have to copy and paste the link into your browser. (Probably to further thwart bots and automation) After pasting the link, then you still have to click to sign.

It didn't happen without you knowing, unless someone else signed it and the cookie is still in your temp files.

Your router has nothing to do with it. Clear your history, clear your cookies and try again.
 Quoting: Travis Bickle


Thanks Travis...I went back and it gave me a link to create an account. I'll try again.
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11/12/2012 10:57 PM
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As a non-Texan I do think that Texas (and California) "could" survive as independent economic countries, whereas most others states, and even some entire regions could NOT. 25,000,000 people is clearly enough people for creating a country.

I will point out though with current Demographic trends Hispanics WILL outnumber Whites in Texas by 2020, and when combined with Blacks (about 12% of the population), the current minorities in that State will greatly outnumber Whites by then.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25450407

And then, don't forget about Mecha. Are they still very active ? This is a movement which, in a nation with this kind of a population, might be a strong influence for "bonding" with the mother country (by which I mean Mexico). All kinds of things could happen.
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It does NOT count unless you LIVE in the state of Texas.....Sooooooo...just signing a petition for the SAKE of Texas, or any other state....will not Count unless you LIVE
there
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OMG....

Just went to the site:

[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

to sign the petition and it said...


"You've already signed this petition"

That is a flat out lie!!! I have NOT signed the petition.

Now we have Petition fraud!

This government never ceases to amaze me.
 Quoting: CowgirlK

I guess you should better say : this government is always living up to my expectations.

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