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TechRaider  User ID: 8668963  United States11/12/2012 05:28 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Will I recognize the Muslim Brotherhood flag when it starts to fly? Texas has yet to learn submission to any oppression, come from what source it may. Sam Houston "The beauty of the Second Amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it." Thomas Jefferson If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed. -- Mark Twain Giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and keys to teenage boys. -- P.J. O'Rourke, Civil Libertarian |
| wishiwas User ID: 19081353 United States11/12/2012 05:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Im a Texan and EVERYBODY who isn't on welfare or gay I know didnt vote for Obama and wants to secede. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25923101 Nothing against gays, but anyone with a brain knows Obama just wants to appeal to them for more votes.. I signed it, and told everyone I know to. I hope it goes through. Obama supporters should be put in their own state if they want a dictatorship. They are. It's named Illinois. And unfortunately, I was born here too. And since I was injured by a douchebag who shattered my pelvis, I am stuck for the time being. Planned on being out of this hellhole this year, but now we are stuck til next year. Expect some company next year. And we are libertarian, so we should get along just fine! :) Justitiae soro Fides |
| Apocalypse Troll Trollicus Apocalyptus User ID: 23982982 United States11/12/2012 05:31 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Flagtard can't read. How the fuck does someone fly 2 flags on the same pole at the same height? Read the code again shitbrain - and Texas code is observed in Texas in regards to our flag. It appers that state trumps bullshit federal regs once again. Last Edited by Apocalypse Troll on 11/12/2012 05:32 PM  "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one state under God, one and indivisible." [link to www.statutes.legis.state.tx.us] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9266723 United States11/12/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| TraderRob User ID: 8968876 United States11/12/2012 05:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I would not either... I understand the frustration but 'we' are not there yet. I am of the belief that Obama will be a lot more moderate his second terms... oil independence is on the horizon. There is hope that we will get through this. Have a nice day = GFY. GFY = Go Fuck Yourself. If this offends you then have a nice day. |
| eljefeUTEXAS User ID: 24957572 United States11/12/2012 05:41 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, so if you manage to break away and make your own little country, what happens when the next hurricane hits the gulf? No FEMA for you.I was in Galveston area during IKE, nobody used FEMA, people did not bitch they just worked their ass off and rebuilt. Everyone has generators THAT THEY BOUGHT for air conditioning ect... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16006480 What happens when your highways need repair? I worked for TxDOT on the roads and they are stretched thin to say the least (new highways seeking funding from private companies...toll roads). BUT as far as maintenance we pay enough sales tax to keep the roads safe and in great condition. We are getting FUCKED by sending our taxes to poor ass Louisiana and others to fix THEIR shitty roads What happens to funding for public education?you dont have a fucking clue how the education system works pal What happens to government research and grant money that universities and grad students in Texas rely on for education and research? you think these great universities (UT grad here) are going to close shop? They would benefit from increased out of country tuition, and hopefully would research things that would HELP THE REGION THEY ARE LOCATED IN. What happens to the millions who rely on Medicaid and SCHIP for health care? we do not pay state income tax, but we do pay federal income taxes, and that money would be put into a smaller, more effective stream of revenue for health care programs. This eliminates a ton of waste by giving our money to idiots in washington. Better build up your own Army, once other countries realize you're vulnerable they'll dive right in - The US won't send help, you're on your own. We would still likely be allies with U.S. If you get a batch of comtaminated food the FDA won't be forthcoming about where it orignated from - you'll have to take care of that yourself. You might want to create your own CDC too. If there is a pandemic you'll be on your own for tracking patient zero and developing a vaccine. swine flu? bah I could go on, but you get the picture I hope. I predict chaos, civil unrest and the rise of warlords. |
| TSWB21 User ID: 1267719 United States11/12/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States11/12/2012 05:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, so if you manage to break away and make your own little country, what happens when the next hurricane hits the gulf? No FEMA for you.I was in Galveston area during IKE, nobody used FEMA, people did not bitch they just worked their ass off and rebuilt. Everyone has generators THAT THEY BOUGHT for air conditioning ect... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16006480 What happens when your highways need repair? I worked for TxDOT on the roads and they are stretched thin to say the least (new highways seeking funding from private companies...toll roads). BUT as far as maintenance we pay enough sales tax to keep the roads safe and in great condition. We are getting FUCKED by sending our taxes to poor ass Louisiana and others to fix THEIR shitty roads What happens to funding for public education?you dont have a fucking clue how the education system works pal What happens to government research and grant money that universities and grad students in Texas rely on for education and research? you think these great universities (UT grad here) are going to close shop? They would benefit from increased out of country tuition, and hopefully would research things that would HELP THE REGION THEY ARE LOCATED IN. What happens to the millions who rely on Medicaid and SCHIP for health care? we do not pay state income tax, but we do pay federal income taxes, and that money would be put into a smaller, more effective stream of revenue for health care programs. This eliminates a ton of waste by giving our money to idiots in washington. Better build up your own Army, once other countries realize you're vulnerable they'll dive right in - The US won't send help, you're on your own. We would still likely be allies with U.S. If you get a batch of comtaminated food the FDA won't be forthcoming about where it orignated from - you'll have to take care of that yourself. You might want to create your own CDC too. If there is a pandemic you'll be on your own for tracking patient zero and developing a vaccine. swine flu? bah I could go on, but you get the picture I hope. I predict chaos, civil unrest and the rise of warlords. If we're speaking hypothetically, Texas currently has no state income tax if it were independent, it could institute a new 10% flat income tax (like Hong Kong or Russia have) raise billions, and still be a more attractive business center just sayin' |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States11/12/2012 05:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone ever made a petition to make English the official language of the united states? Quoting: TSWB21 yes, and they have failed every time [link to www.us-english.org] [link to www.gopetition.com] [link to www.thepetitionsite.com] more: [link to en.wikipedia.org] |
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| Travis Bickle (OP) Vigilantes need love too.... User ID: 26788702 United States11/12/2012 05:48 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | [link to www.change.org] This one is a petition to the Federal Election Commision One of these days... A *REAL* rain is gonna come and wash all this scum off the streets. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19992683 United States11/12/2012 05:53 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | When they joined the union, I think they had the get out clause. Obama is the treason. Not Texans. Quoting: NightWisp This right here... Texas is called the Lone Star State because of that clause. They were apprehensive about joining the Union and wanted a get out of jail card which they have or had, not sure if its changed. its also the only flag that can be raides to the same height as the american flag There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. Wrong. Any state can secede if they want to. It's just after the Civil War, secession has become a sort of taboo subject in the eyes of the federal government. That Supreme Court ruling you're talking about, not only was it ruled just a few years after the North won, but US Supreme Court decisions don't even matter to a seceding state. Know your history. This country was founded on voluntarism. 13 colonies seceded from Britain. At one point, New England was seriously considering secession. This country encourages other countries to secede from oppressive governments -- i.e., countries that seceded from the Soviets. Talk of secession is an American right. And if a state chooses to voluntarily leave the Union, they have every right. |
| TTX8K82 User ID: 26400095 United States11/12/2012 05:55 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Has anyone ever made a petition to make English the official language of the united states? Quoting: TSWB21 I think it is up to the states. English is the legal language for Arizona. Over 1/2 the states declare English as the official language, Hawaii also has Hawaiian as an official language. Last Edited by TTX8K82 on 11/12/2012 06:02 PM |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 1382145 United States11/12/2012 05:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If Texas were to sucessfully secede, the southern and western states would soon follow. Then the west coast, and finally the midwest would all go their seperate ways. We would break up into at least 6 countries, maybe more. But does anyone actually think the feds would just roll over and let this happen? Didn't think so. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 9266723 United States11/12/2012 06:01 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: A Friend This right here... Texas is called the Lone Star State because of that clause. They were apprehensive about joining the Union and wanted a get out of jail card which they have or had, not sure if its changed. its also the only flag that can be raides to the same height as the american flag There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. Wrong. Any state can secede if they want to. It's just after the Civil War, secession has become a sort of taboo subject in the eyes of the federal government. That Supreme Court ruling you're talking about, not only was it ruled just a few years after the North won, but US Supreme Court decisions don't even matter to a seceding state. Know your history. This country was founded on voluntarism. 13 colonies seceded from Britain. At one point, New England was seriously considering secession. This country encourages other countries to secede from oppressive governments -- i.e., countries that seceded from the Soviets. Talk of secession is an American right. And if a state chooses to voluntarily leave the Union, they have every right. You can say that if you want, but the legal word is that it is illegal. Sure, Texas can do what they want if they are willing to fight the US to do it, but... that's not the same as a petition to leave. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27556375 Canada11/12/2012 06:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Wow, so if you manage to break away and make your own little country, what happens when the next hurricane hits the gulf? No FEMA for you.I was in Galveston area during IKE, nobody used FEMA, people did not bitch they just worked their ass off and rebuilt. Everyone has generators THAT THEY BOUGHT for air conditioning ect... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16006480 What happens when your highways need repair? I worked for TxDOT on the roads and they are stretched thin to say the least (new highways seeking funding from private companies...toll roads). BUT as far as maintenance we pay enough sales tax to keep the roads safe and in great condition. We are getting FUCKED by sending our taxes to poor ass Louisiana and others to fix THEIR shitty roads What happens to funding for public education?you dont have a fucking clue how the education system works pal What happens to government research and grant money that universities and grad students in Texas rely on for education and research? you think these great universities (UT grad here) are going to close shop? They would benefit from increased out of country tuition, and hopefully would research things that would HELP THE REGION THEY ARE LOCATED IN. What happens to the millions who rely on Medicaid and SCHIP for health care? we do not pay state income tax, but we do pay federal income taxes, and that money would be put into a smaller, more effective stream of revenue for health care programs. This eliminates a ton of waste by giving our money to idiots in washington. Better build up your own Army, once other countries realize you're vulnerable they'll dive right in - The US won't send help, you're on your own. We would still likely be allies with U.S. If you get a batch of comtaminated food the FDA won't be forthcoming about where it orignated from - you'll have to take care of that yourself. You might want to create your own CDC too. If there is a pandemic you'll be on your own for tracking patient zero and developing a vaccine. swine flu? bah I could go on, but you get the picture I hope. I predict chaos, civil unrest and the rise of warlords. If we're speaking hypothetically, Texas currently has no state income tax if it were independent, it could institute a new 10% flat income tax (like Hong Kong or Russia have) raise billions, and still be a more attractive business center just sayin' ... Quoting: A Friend This right here... Texas is called the Lone Star State because of that clause. They were apprehensive about joining the Union and wanted a get out of jail card which they have or had, not sure if its changed. its also the only flag that can be raides to the same height as the american flag There is no truth to any of this. There is no special case allowed to Texas in regards to the flag code (Check for yourself [link to www.law.cornell.edu] ) and no state is allowed to leave the union, not even Texas, according to the supreme court. Wrong. Any state can secede if they want to. It's just after the Civil War, secession has become a sort of taboo subject in the eyes of the federal government. That Supreme Court ruling you're talking about, not only was it ruled just a few years after the North won, but US Supreme Court decisions don't even matter to a seceding state. Know your history. This country was founded on voluntarism. 13 colonies seceded from Britain. At one point, New England was seriously considering secession. This country encourages other countries to secede from oppressive governments -- i.e., countries that seceded from the Soviets. Talk of secession is an American right. And if a state chooses to voluntarily leave the Union, they have every right. Go my American Brothers!!! |
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| Éireann User ID: 27571136 United States11/12/2012 06:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I was number 32, 724 This Texan has had it. Last Edited by Eireann on 11/12/2012 06:08 PM Eireann~ I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me. - Galatians 2:20 |
Lady Jane Smith Forum Administrator User ID: 823577 United States11/12/2012 06:09 PM  Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... and Texas will be free to put the cartels down without having to worry about a bunch of federal liberal whinetards having a heart bleed fest. Fate whispers to the warrior "You cannot withstand the storm" the warrior whispers back "I am the storm" INTJ-A  |
| IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States11/12/2012 06:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lmfao Texas rangers would eliminate the drug cartel on the border. The only thing which keeps them from doing it now is the Federal government which for some insane reason does not permit cities and property owners on the border to protect themselves Furthermore, Mexico would have an interest in siding with the new country Did you know that when Quebec was seriously considering seceding from Canada, that the Clinton administration sent representatives to Quebec to indicate Quebec would be welcome as a protectorate of the United States or as an ally? I will find the link to the story which later confirmed what I had heard from people I know in DC Very often energy and business rich provinces who seek to break away are given money and encouragement by countries in competition with the parent state Again, I am not saying I wish this to happen...I would prefer that we were not as polarized as a nation I am merely pointing out what has happened in other places (and could have happened to Canada as well had Quebec been successful in their independence movement) Last Edited by IssueX on 11/12/2012 06:13 PM |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 7794073 United States11/12/2012 06:23 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | lmfao Texas rangers would eliminate the drug cartel on the border. The only thing which keeps them from doing it now is the Federal government which for some insane reason does not permit cities and property owners on the border to protect themselves Furthermore, Mexico would have an interest in siding with the new country Did you know that when Quebec was seriously considering seceding from Canada, that the Clinton administration sent representatives to Quebec to indicate Quebec would be welcome as a protectorate of the United States or as an ally? I will find the link to the story which later confirmed what I had heard from people I know in DC Very often energy and business rich provinces who seek to break away are given money and encouragement by countries in competition with the parent state Again, I am not saying I wish this to happen...I would prefer that we were not as polarized as a nation I am merely pointing out what has happened in other places (and could have happened to Canada as well had Quebec been successful in their independence movement) testify |
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| WAKEUPAMERICA01 User ID: 24094200 United States11/12/2012 06:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | AC 7794073 is a shill do not feed the shills WAKE UP AMERICA "I love the man that can smile in trouble, that can gather strength from distress, and grow brave by reflection. 'Tis the business of little minds to shrink; but he whose heart is firm, and whose conscience approves his conduct, will pursue his principles unto death." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 1, December 19, 1776 "Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom, must, like men, undergo the fatigues of supporting it." Thomas Paine, The American Crisis, No. 4, September 11, 1777 "I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. Already they have raised up a monied aristocracy that has set the government at defiance. The issuing power (of money) should be taken away from the banks and restored to the people to whom it properly belongs." -- Thomas Jefferson, U.S. President. "A majority of the people of the United States have lived all of their lives under emergency rule. For 40 years, [79 years now in 2012] freedoms and governmental procedures guaranteed by the Constitution have in varying degrees been abridged by laws brought into force by statutes of national emergency." |
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