Accident in uranium enrichment facility in Finland - nearest lakes already radioactive

there's a complete media blackout concerning the dangers of the pollution

THL: Talvivaara leak has no serious health effects

The National Institute for Health and Welfare THL said on Monday that the gypsum pond leak at the Talvivaara mining site has no immediate serious effects on human health.

[link to yle.fi]

yea. uranium especially enriched is safe to drink. Didnt you know???

On the contrary, the media is screaming bloody murder about dangers that do not even exist. Yes, it's toxic but can be contained and cleaned up as soon as the company makes an effort and stops hoping for a cover-up by their bought-and-paid-for Center-party politicians. No, it's not a radiological hazard. See my posts above.

yea. uranium especially enriched is safe to drink. Didnt you know???

Where the hell do you see enriched uranium u dipwit. Pff talvivaara will get the leak under control and only hazard from the fking whole thing is that the lakes are contaminated and kill the fishes in the fking lakes

Today's press conference held at STUK's Director General said that the situation could get any worse, because the top-toxic gypsum pool is depleted environment. On Friday, recorded according to the measurement of water leakage contained uranium would kill more than half a million people.

[link to translate.google.fi]

Radiation measurements published on Friday, show that on Wednesday 7.11. Talvivaara measured water discharges three kilometers from the spill area exceed seven times the WHO limits set by the act. The concentrations of uranium have risen rapidly.

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There was a NUKE icon on the disaster map yesterday in Finland and when you clicked on the link for details, nothing showed up, i was hoping something would come up on GLP about the incident.

Good catch.

Damn Stuxnet and its carbon hating properties.

Transhuman anyone?

You must be a Japanese shill...atom boy is that you?

WOW...this is the type of thing that needs to be reported on the news, but never is. This is just INSANE. PIN THIS

I don't think you can really call that enrichment. Ore separation is a better term, enrichment generally refers to the thing with the centrifuges that Saddam got hung for.

This is expected and more will come!



High 5 and Pin, this is important

I'm a career physicist so I thought I'd comment on this. The hysteria in this thread (and in our media) is getting out of all proportion.

That is not to say that this is a totally harmless leak. Uranium is a toxic metal and this leak will have to be cleaned up. The radiological danger is, however, greatly exaggerated by the media and militant Greens.

Firstly, it's not pure Uranium (U) that's pouring out. It's watery sludge that contains trace amounts of U. Secondly, it is U isotope 238 (U238), meaning that the radiological hazard is small.

U238 is the most common U isotope in the soil. It's everywhere! It is an alpha-emitter (i.e. it emits Helium nuclei without the two electrons usually associated with He), meaning that as long as you don't drink it, eat it or get it under your skin or into your lungs, it's harmless. It does not penetrate or damage skin. You can hold an alpha emitter in your hand or wear it on a necklace for your entire life, and it won't harm you. U238 does not emit the more energetic and penetrating beta-radiation (bad), gamma-radiation (worse) or neutrons (worst), nor does it spontaneously transform into more radioactive isotopes within our lifetime (its half-life is 4.468 billion years).

U238 cannot start or sustain a chain reaction even at bulk concentrations, so there is absolutely no chance of a runaway nuclear reaction.

Radiologically the danger is equivalent to living in a house built on soil that releases radioactive Radon-gas (222Rn is also an alpha-emitter) - a common practice in Finland. In such a house, a simple precaution like good ventilation takes care of it. Outdoors the dose is negligible. Smoking exposes you to more radiation.

On the other hand, U238 is a toxic heavy metal. This is the main danger in the leak. The good news is that as such it is easy to filter out from drinking water (normal water purification plants deal with it) and clean up by soil removal. It is also readily absorbed by the soil, meaning that the Uranium won't travel far from the site. Furthermore, since the leak is far away from dense population and ground water areas (=drinking water), it is well contained.

The only real fallout from this incident is political and economical.

This sounds like the classic shill play for the industry. Presenting just one view with no balance.

It is all generally true, except it is overlooking that thing about ingesting, and the problems that can arise from that. That is what Japanese, US and Canadian populations are looking forward to in long-term after effects of Fukushima fallout.

These types of radioactive conditions might show up clearly statistically but a heavy handed government perception management program may keep these sorts of things under wraps.

Damn... what a read..



Evidentiary Sources which demonstrate the suppression of medical records by nuclear authorities from the dawn of the nuclear age until the current era.
[link to nuclearhistory.wordpress.com]

This is why GLP is best!
Man that seriously sucks though I hope people can get out of there and away from those zones.

live (in finnish)
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