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Secret of how Shills work... in the open!

 
AxX
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So I stumbled upon a video posted May, 2009 ( [link to www.youtube.com] and instead of just "paste-link-POST!"ing like most seem to do, I thought I'd share my thoughts after watching it.

It's a compilation of images & text from the Midway game, "Area-51" published in 2005 that covers many topics including, but not limited to: Crop circles, cloning, Antarctic virus, UFOs, HAARP, flouride, Echelon, MJ-12.

It's like the Who's Who & What's What of conspiracy theories, wrapped up in a video game that includes voice acting by David Duchovny of The X-Files.

Even though you can't take any of it seriously (it's all in a game, right?), I found this quote to be quite humorous:

From: Internal Affairs and Information Services
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 1995 09:45 AM
To: MLA dd - USD(I); all
Subject: URGENT: Operation DesertRat
Importance: High

It has come to our attention that rogue agents under assumed names have begun to use the Internet as an underground channel for distribution of classified information as it relates to our involvement with Extraterrestrial Biological Entity (EBE). To rectify this situation, we authorize the immediate creation of false personalities who will be logged onto major UFO message boards and Internet Relay Chat sessions. Once these Internet personalities have established themselves, websites supposedly created by these personalities will go "live" with the sole purpose of discrediting and providing humorous coverage of the unauthorized information. A second set of personalities will also be created to serve as extremist UFO researchers. These people will claim credit for the unauthorized information and transofrm it using absurd exaggeration to appear hoax-like and nonsensical in an effort to further invalidate the significance of this data to the general public

NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION DIRECTORATE

This may contain information exempt from mandatory disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
 Quoting: "area-51 (long awaited one)" 5:27 - 5:30


Now... What goes through your mind when reading that paragraph?

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Its remarkable
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So I stumbled upon a video posted May, 2009 ( [link to www.youtube.com] and instead of just "paste-link-POST!"ing like most seem to do, I thought I'd share my thoughts after watching it.

It's a compilation of images & text from the Midway game, "Area-51" published in 2005 that covers many topics including, but not limited to: Crop circles, cloning, Antarctic virus, UFOs, HAARP, flouride, Echelon, MJ-12.

It's like the Who's Who & What's What of conspiracy theories, wrapped up in a video game that includes voice acting by David Duchovny of The X-Files.

Even though you can't take any of it seriously (it's all in a game, right?), I found this quote to be quite humorous:

From: Internal Affairs and Information Services
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 1995 09:45 AM
To: MLA dd - USD(I); all
Subject: URGENT: Operation DesertRat
Importance: High

It has come to our attention that rogue agents under assumed names have begun to use the Internet as an underground channel for distribution of classified information as it relates to our involvement with Extraterrestrial Biological Entity (EBE). To rectify this situation, we authorize the immediate creation of false personalities who will be logged onto major UFO message boards and Internet Relay Chat sessions. Once these Internet personalities have established themselves, websites supposedly created by these personalities will go "live" with the sole purpose of discrediting and providing humorous coverage of the unauthorized information. A second set of personalities will also be created to serve as extremist UFO researchers. These people will claim credit for the unauthorized information and transofrm it using absurd exaggeration to appear hoax-like and nonsensical in an effort to further invalidate the significance of this data to the general public

NATIONAL SECURITY INFORMATION DIRECTORATE

This may contain information exempt from mandatory disclosure under the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA).
 Quoting: "area-51 (long awaited one)" 5:27 - 5:30


Now... What goes through your mind when reading that paragraph?

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 Quoting: AxX


shill
WAR INSIDE MY HEAD.
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Interesting post, thanks. Here's something I've come across:

Pay for Comments – Confessions of a Paid Disinformation Internet Shill

"Government trolls. Disinformation shills. Call them what you want, they are real.

Every day at WuW, we see “comments” submitted on our articles that are blatantly composed by trolls. Lengthy, well written comments designed to steer the conversation in a pro-government, pro-status quo direction. They pose as readers and first-time commenters, but post essay length commentary quoting “expert” government research on a range of topics, question those who question the government line, and urge us to believe in the path chosen for us by our trusted leaders. If we believe them, everything is and has always been ok. No further questions need to be asked. Those who do are paranoid.

Site moderation is something we take very seriously at WuW. We offer a platform for different voices and opinions to be expressed, and it is therefore quite rare that we suppress a reader’s comment from being posted on the site. But we’re not stupid, and we won’t let our site be undermined. We know government trolls and paid disinformation shills are real, and we can pick their work a mile away. It has a certain… quality. And they prove us right! The troll comments we supress are often re-submitted, again and again, word for word, from a variety of reader aliases and email addresses."

[link to www.whale.to]
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lol! How did I not see this one coming?

Thanks, Hawk!
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Interesting post, thanks. Here's something I've come across:

<snip>... comments we supress are often re-submitted, again and again, word for word, from a variety of reader aliases and email addresses."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23254866


Thanks, AC!

This then leads to the next question -- If there are shills to discredit disinfo and shills to discredit real leaked info, who do you trust?

I've turned to an old childhood favorite movie, The Labyrinth. (Yes, with David Bowie.. *grumble*)

There were 2 doors, one lead to certain doom. In front of each door was a creature. The one on the right always told the truth and the one of the left always told a lie. Each door would tell you they were the way -- But how can you know.. for sure?

It was all in the question:
<To the left door> "What would the other door tell me is the Doom Door?"
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Interesting post, thanks. Here's something I've come across:

<snip>... comments we supress are often re-submitted, again and again, word for word, from a variety of reader aliases and email addresses."
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23254866


Thanks, AC!

This then leads to the next question -- If there are shills to discredit disinfo and shills to discredit real leaked info, who do you trust?

I've turned to an old childhood favorite movie, The Labyrinth. (Yes, with David Bowie.. *grumble*)

There were 2 doors, one lead to certain doom. In front of each door was a creature. The one on the right always told the truth and the one of the left always told a lie. Each door would tell you they were the way -- But how can you know.. for sure?

It was all in the question:
<To the left door> "What would the other door tell me is the Doom Door?"
 Quoting: AxX


Then you take the opposite door to the answer, right?
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11/12/2012 10:56 PM
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Nothing can be fully trusted. That has been my opinion for quite a long time. Nice find and sounds like an interesting game.
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It was all in the question:
<To the left door> "What would the other door tell me is the Doom Door?"
 Quoting: AxX


Then you take the opposite door to the answer, right?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23254866


Not necessarily...

Left door always lies.
Right door always tells the truth.

When asked the question, the replies are:
For the Left Door -- Always lying, cannot tell you the truth that the Right door would tell you the Left door is bad. Therefore, it'll tell you the bad door is itself -- not a lie, as it's using the right door's perspective to tell a lie from.

For the Right Door -- Always telling truth, will tell you the truth of what the Left Door will tell you. (See above)

It's confusing, for sure.

Ultimately, the effect is if you ask "Who would the other one say is evil?" to one who always lies and one who always tells the truth, the "Truth" will be that they both point to the evil one.

Maybe that's why "evil cannot win"?
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Nothing can be fully trusted. That has been my opinion for quite a long time. Nice find and sounds like an interesting game.
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Agreed that nothing can be fully trusted. I work on an 80/20 rule as that's been doing pretty good for me so far.

As for the game, I've never played it, but considering it's FREE to download if you are in the US and have a P.C., you can play this first-person shooter by following any of the links of a quick Google search: [link to www.google.com]

It looks like it's 1.9GB to download.
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yes reminds me of this:

[link to cryptome.org]
nice to tuck away for keeping.
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Re: Secret of how Shills work... in the open!
Occasionally I see people say "What is a Shill?"

For those... Here is your answer...

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