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Democrats: YOU OWN IT!

 
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With total underfunded liabilities - including SSN and healthcare, in the US well over $100 trillion (on under $16 trillion of GDP) it is only a matter of time before the entire welfare state ponzi scheme blows up.

But don't expect a lib to understand the inconvienience of the math.
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They still don't even know the difference in a deficit and the debt!

Scary that people like this are allowed to vote!
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And its useless to argue with Koolaid drinkers who ignore or cannot understand the math - we are broke and we are heading to financial ruin - O will hasten the demise of the union - he has no clue as to economics or finance in the real world.

The tax increase mandated by the President will translate into 200,000 less jobs for 2013. If the people who did not find work as a result were forced to stay on unemployment it would cost the government $4.6Bn.

So Obama’s “must have” tax increase will generate $42Bn in revenue, but it will cost ~$8Bn. The Obama's plan is to decrease the deficit by about $34Bn in 2012, and by less than that in future years. These numbers are beyond chump change. It comes to 0.9% of total spending and just 3.0% of the deficit. It does not move the needle at all.
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Revenue to the federal treasury in 2003 was 680 billion dollars.

Tax cuts were passed in 2003, took effect in Jan 2004.

Revenue to the federal treasury in 2006 was 1.2 Trillion dollars.
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And how much did his wars cost us, since he just had to finish his fathers work. The only this he left the office with was his middle finger.. If i recall clinton left the office with a surplus did bush do the same?
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Ill ask you little sneaky bastards again.. Hw much money did bush BORROW to fund 2 wars and his bs medication program.. All your ppl ever know how to do is find a way not to pay for shit under your guidence then when shit hits the fan let the others take office and make it look like they did. That way you sneaky bastards can come back in office and do it all over again
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You have to have seen this a dozen times!


Obamdebt



I guess you can't grasp that under the Bush tax cuts, more revenue was collected by the U.S. Treasury than at any other time in history!

Either 2007 or 2008 broke all existing records for income collected.
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Congratulations to the Democrats and Young People! You now own it. The next terrorist attack you own it. Can't get a job after graduation, you own it.

Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama's EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it.

A nuclear Iran, you own it. Bowing to the Soviet Union, you own it. Another severe recession, you own it.

A volatile border with Mexico, you own it. Trouble getting good health care, you own it.

Higher heath insurance costs and health care costs, you own it. No budget, you own it.

Our allies mistrust, you own it.

Another trillion of debt, you own it.

More Benghazi situations, you own it.

No one willing to join the military, you own it.

Trouble getting to loan to buy a home, you own it. More dependency on food stamps, you own it.

Trouble finding good employment, you own it. Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it.

A World Government, you own it. The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it.

A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table rather it is "Dead on Arrival", you own it. China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it.

Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it. A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constitution, you own it.

Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it. Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it.

More government corruption and lies, you own it. More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamists, you own it.

Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it. Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it.

President George Bush is out of it now, and there is not another good man for you to vilify and lie about. In a way I am relieved that another good man will not be blamed when it was impossible to clean up this mess you voted for. Have a good day. God bless the United States.
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Agree with all of it except the implication that Bush was a good man. In comparison to OBathhouse though, Bush doesn't seem so bad.
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For those who follow the ilk of Obama, the so called liberal, democrat, luciferian, anti christian/anti God, pro man as a solution to the worlds ills. Those who promote sin and despise Truth, the homosexuals (Oba m .a is one as well as most world leaders and followers), Power hungry corporations who worship the earthly wealth vs God Himself. A word to the wise, not necessarily to those who profess wisdom or those in positions of power...

Worship NOT the Creation OVER the Creator. For what is your soul worth? The value of it is an eternal consequence of your decision.
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you assholes blame american capitalism for everything
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Wait until you whine because Chinese capitalism will eat you whole :)

You wanted a capitalist world, you'll get one :)
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not afraid of the chinks bring it fuckers capitalism is all about COMPETION
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you assholes blame american capitalism for everything
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Wait until you whine because Chinese capitalism will eat you whole :)

You wanted a capitalist world, you'll get one :)
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not afraid of the chinks bring it fuckers capitalism is all about COMPETION
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fuck spelling



competition!!!
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And its useless to argue with Koolaid drinkers who ignore or cannot understand the math - we are broke and we are heading to financial ruin - O will hasten the demise of the union - he has no clue as to economics or finance in the real world.

The tax increase mandated by the President will translate into 200,000 less jobs for 2013. If the people who did not find work as a result were forced to stay on unemployment it would cost the government $4.6Bn.

So Obama’s “must have” tax increase will generate $42Bn in revenue, but it will cost ~$8Bn. The Obama's plan is to decrease the deficit by about $34Bn in 2012, and by less than that in future years. These numbers are beyond chump change. It comes to 0.9% of total spending and just 3.0% of the deficit. It does not move the needle at all.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


If Obama's defense actually happen, it will create a loss of a million jobs directly and evne more in support industries. Not just in the military but in all the little companies that are defense contractors and make routine every day items for the military and bases.

It's too much at one time. He is so far over his head in this job that he is likely to do most anything.
One of the most important aspects of conspiracy theories is being able to discern when there isn't one.

Oh yeah, like you'd understand anyway.

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Sky rocketing energy prices due to Obama's EPA shutting down the energy producing states, you own it.

A nuclear Iran, you own it. Bowing to the Soviet Union, you own it. Another severe recession, you own it. (These 2 are ridiculous and have been "happening" for the last decades. We never left the recession.)

A volatile border with Mexico, you own it. Trouble getting good health care, you own it. (Somehow implying the Mexican border wasn't already volatile?)

Higher heath insurance costs and health care costs, you own it. No budget, you own it.

Our allies mistrust, you own it. (Have we ever had our "allies'" trust? Israel can fuck off.)

Another trillion of debt, you own it.(Only a trillion?)

No one willing to join the military, you own it. (Besides the fact that the military is the most useless spending we have at the moment that needs severely cut...)

Trouble getting to loan to buy a home, you own it. More dependency on food stamps, you own it. (People have been taking out loans and mortgages on homes they can't afford before this, around 2004?)

Trouble finding good employment, you own it. Several part time jobs instead of a good job, you own it. (Kind of what happens when you're in a recession but Romneycare/Obamacare would hit businesses either way.)

A World Government, you own it. The UN governing the United States instead of ourselves, you own it. (Somehow implying that none of this was already happening, you also forgot the government turning into our nannies.)

A Senate that will not bring any legislation to the table rather it is "Dead on Arrival", you own it. China controlling our world trade trampling all over us, you own it. (Romney is an expert on shopping jobs over, this was happening regardless, they also own a shit ton of our debt.)

Loss of our freedoms as we have known it in the past, you own it. A dictatorship instead of a democracy that follows the Constitution, you own it. (Somehow implying this wasn't happening, but I do agree Obama now represents this system.)

Less take home pay and higher living costs, you own it. Driving a car that looks like a toy, you own it. (First one, alright. Second one, pretty asinine lol...)

More government corruption and lies, you own it. More toleration of extreme and fanatical Islamists, you own it. (First one has been since the dawn of the Republic, second I can understand.)

Terrorist attacks called work place incidents, you own it. Your revenge instead of love of country, you own it.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 990186


Sorry but when I see a giant list I kind of fell the need to correct some of these points.

I'm not disagreeing with the fact that a bunch of retarded voters have willed in the Nanny State, we just need to get our facts straight.
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Fuck you communist. I fucking despise vile people that think like you.
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And you have reason for saying that? or maybe you are just hurt from hearing the truth?
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you assholes blame american capitalism for everything, capitalism has increased our standard of living and lifted millions out of poverty, but you say we steal resources, consume to much fuck you. Who is the judge of that? The commi overlords??

It is a sad, sad fucking day that people that think like you actually get to enjoy the freedoms america provides to dump on america. bit by bt, you assholes chip away at something great, until you are left with an eastern europe dump third world shithole.

I wish I could be there for the moment of realization in the average dumbfuck obamabot empty headed useless eater, when they wake up and discover that the democrat party, just like stalin, led them down to path of everyone is equally worthless, except for beyonce and jay z amd michelle, who are fucking royalty.

Got my obama phone
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Its useless to argue with people who fails to understand whats going on in the world and dont see further than their backyard...
this quote from you, "eastern europe dump third world shithole", clearly proves that you dont have any idea what is going on outside your backyard and you are sleeping in your "american dream"... Keep dreaming
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been to Albania lately?
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Fuck you mitt republicans! Wanting to bring back that fucked up bush era all cause you greedy fucks dont want to pay taxes..

You own the fuck up we are in right now! Bush did it with all those damn tax brakes for you rich mother fuckers.. Did everyone forget the bs wmd we started a war over that kick started the shit we are in now.

You already fucked it all up and you have the balls to say we own it! fuck out of here..
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Does someone really talk this way or is this someone pretending to be an angry black man?
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And you have reason for saying that? or maybe you are just hurt from hearing the truth?
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you assholes blame american capitalism for everything, capitalism has increased our standard of living and lifted millions out of poverty, but you say we steal resources, consume to much fuck you. Who is the judge of that? The commi overlords??

It is a sad, sad fucking day that people that think like you actually get to enjoy the freedoms america provides to dump on america. bit by bt, you assholes chip away at something great, until you are left with an eastern europe dump third world shithole.

I wish I could be there for the moment of realization in the average dumbfuck obamabot empty headed useless eater, when they wake up and discover that the democrat party, just like stalin, led them down to path of everyone is equally worthless, except for beyonce and jay z amd michelle, who are fucking royalty.

Got my obama phone


Its useless to argue with people who fails to understand whats going on in the world and dont see further than their backyard...
this quote from you, "eastern europe dump third world shithole", clearly proves that you dont have any idea what is going on outside your backyard and you are sleeping in your "american dream"... Keep dreaming



been to Albania lately?


From your comment I asume you have been there... and? what exactly you want to say with that?
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Revenue to the federal treasury in 2003 was 680 billion dollars.

Tax cuts were passed in 2003, took effect in Jan 2004.

Revenue to the federal treasury in 2006 was 1.2 Trillion dollars.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18308331


And how much did his wars cost us, since he just had to finish his fathers work. The only this he left the office with was his middle finger.. If i recall clinton left the office with a surplus did bush do the same?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26930846

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Ill ask you little sneaky bastards again.. Hw much money did bush BORROW to fund 2 wars and his bs medication program.. All your ppl ever know how to do is find a way not to pay for shit under your guidence then when shit hits the fan let the others take office and make it look like they did. That way you sneaky bastards can come back in office and do it all over again
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Will not do your research for you, but I do know it was a hell of a lot less than the $6.5 Trillion (increasing by the minute) Obama is responsible for.
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Thats great! ohyeah
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We don't have the House, the Supreme Court, the media, the governor of Florida, and every AM radio station in the country the way your last president did.


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It's tyranny thru Regulatory fiat.

6,125 Proposed Regulations and Notifications Posted in Last 90 Days--Average 68 per Day

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"It’s Friday morning, and so far today, the Obama administration has posted 165 new regulations and notifications on its reguations.gov website.

"In the past 90 days, it has posted 6,125 regulations and notices – an average of 68 a day."
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Powerful corporations actually lobby for those regulations because they like them.

And deregulation since Reagan has been a disaster.
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You are going to be in for a rude awakening. If you are working now, expect to lose your job or have your hours cut back.

Also, expect to see the prices for consumer goods AND utilities to climb steeply.

Expect to wait a long time before you can see a doctor if you ever need one.

I say this because it's obvious you are brain washed. The only thing that might wake you up is when you suffer personally. Of course you'll always be able to blame Bush or Reagan.

BTW, federal regulations are the bane of freedom. It's unelected officials making laws that can result in jail time laws. It's a real tyranny. Obama is on a tear to cripple the US. You just wait and see.
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LOVE IT! Obama said that voting is the best revenge but I think the best revenge is having LIE-berals have their dose of REALITY!

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you assholes blame american capitalism for everything, capitalism has increased our standard of living and lifted millions out of poverty, but you say we steal resources, consume to much fuck you. Who is the judge of that? The commi overlords??

It is a sad, sad fucking day that people that think like you actually get to enjoy the freedoms america provides to dump on america. bit by bt, you assholes chip away at something great, until you are left with an eastern europe dump third world shithole.

I wish I could be there for the moment of realization in the average dumbfuck obamabot empty headed useless eater, when they wake up and discover that the democrat party, just like stalin, led them down to path of everyone is equally worthless, except for beyonce and jay z amd michelle, who are fucking royalty.

Got my obama phone
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 15433861


Its useless to argue with people who fails to understand whats going on in the world and dont see further than their backyard...
this quote from you, "eastern europe dump third world shithole", clearly proves that you dont have any idea what is going on outside your backyard and you are sleeping in your "american dream"... Keep dreaming
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been to Albania lately?
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From your comment I asume you have been there... and? what exactly you want to say with that?
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Decades of communism have left a less than advantageous economy and living conditions, not to mention extreme poverty and lack of economic opportunity.

I mean no disrespect to the peoples of eastern europe, I just use the region as an example of what not to do.
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With total underfunded liabilities - including SSN and healthcare, in the US well over $100 trillion (on under $16 trillion of GDP) it is only a matter of time before the entire welfare state ponzi scheme blows up.

But don't expect a lib to understand the inconvienience of the math.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


They still don't even know the difference in a deficit and the debt!

Scary that people like this are allowed to vote!
 Quoting: Bluebird


Holy F**K republitards! I knew Obama ran a deficit, but I didn't know he was responsible for ALL 16 trillion!!!

I know you don't like Obama, but did he really create the 100 Trillion dollar liabilities?

Is he responsible for borrowing from and underfunding SS and Medicare?

I know he continued with Afghanistan, but did he start it? Did he start IRAQ 2? or IRAQ and IRAQ 2 too? Panama? Vietnam? Korea?

Oh, I know, he outsourced companies via his hedge fund and dismantled them.

ABSOLUTELY CLUELESS RAGING REPUBLITARDS WHO CONTRADICT EVERYTHING THEY SAY AND CAN'T SEE BEYOND THE SHIT THEIR LEADERS DUMP ON THEIR HEADS.

By your own numbers you PROVE beyond any doubt whatsoever that the bumblefuck mess you are in is not JUST from OBAMA.

Hell you could have said he made it worse, but you pathetic attempts to lay ALL blame on one person and party and then spout off 100 Trillion in liabilities shows that you are not only ignorant, but stupid enough to use contradictory evidence in the same sentence.

You're so dumb you don't even know it.

This mess started a long time ago. The sooner you wake up, the sooner you will actually make some sense.
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And its useless to argue with Koolaid drinkers who ignore or cannot understand the math - we are broke and we are heading to financial ruin - O will hasten the demise of the union - he has no clue as to economics or finance in the real world.

The tax increase mandated by the President will translate into 200,000 less jobs for 2013. If the people who did not find work as a result were forced to stay on unemployment it would cost the government $4.6Bn.

So Obama’s “must have” tax increase will generate $42Bn in revenue, but it will cost ~$8Bn. The Obama's plan is to decrease the deficit by about $34Bn in 2012, and by less than that in future years. These numbers are beyond chump change. It comes to 0.9% of total spending and just 3.0% of the deficit. It does not move the needle at all.
 Quoting: No Dhimmi


If Obama's defense actually happen, it will create a loss of a million jobs directly and evne more in support industries. Not just in the military but in all the little companies that are defense contractors and make routine every day items for the military and bases.

It's too much at one time. He is so far over his head in this job that he is likely to do most anything.
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.. and all the other, even smaller, companies that make supplies & inputs for those small companies.

This will snowball throughout the entire country -- not just the defense sector as the libs have some wet dream over.
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And you have reason for saying that? or maybe you are just hurt from hearing the truth?
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you assholes blame american capitalism for everything, capitalism has increased our standard of living and lifted millions out of poverty, but you say we steal resources, consume to much fuck you. Who is the judge of that? The commi overlords??

It is a sad, sad fucking day that people that think like you actually get to enjoy the freedoms america provides to dump on america. bit by bt, you assholes chip away at something great, until you are left with an eastern europe dump third world shithole.

I wish I could be there for the moment of realization in the average dumbfuck obamabot empty headed useless eater, when they wake up and discover that the democrat party, just like stalin, led them down to path of everyone is equally worthless, except for beyonce and jay z amd michelle, who are fucking royalty.

Got my obama phone


Its useless to argue with people who fails to understand whats going on in the world and dont see further than their backyard...
this quote from you, "eastern europe dump third world shithole", clearly proves that you dont have any idea what is going on outside your backyard and you are sleeping in your "american dream"... Keep dreaming



been to Albania lately?


Things are not exactly rosy in Romania, Bulgaria, Georgia, Ukraine ... either.
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Life is karma and karma always reflects both past and present circumstance. Our time here is short, so choose carefully and behave well, for all of your tomorrows are presently being decided.

"Don't die on a small cross..." Saddletramp's Mom

"A fool thinks himself to be wise, but a wise man knows himself to be a fool."
-- William Shakespeare, born April 23, 1564.

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Its useless to argue with people who fails to understand whats going on in the world and dont see further than their backyard...
this quote from you, "eastern europe dump third world shithole", clearly proves that you dont have any idea what is going on outside your backyard and you are sleeping in your "american dream"... Keep dreaming
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been to Albania lately?
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From your comment I asume you have been there... and? what exactly you want to say with that?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17545771



Decades of communism have left a less than advantageous economy and living conditions, not to mention extreme poverty and lack of economic opportunity.

I mean no disrespect to the peoples of eastern europe, I just use the region as an example of what not to do.
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I am not saying that communism was something good... But it is not much different than capitalism... there is many Eastern European countries who could quickly switch to capitalism after the fall of communism but where are we now? In enormous debt to IMF... almost every family has debt to banks...
is that higher standart of living...? Almost every person had property in 90's after we get independence... now many of those families have lost their properties to banks...

My point is that capitalism is failing... we need a new system... capitalism at some point was better than communism.... but it is not working any more.. we need something that can work better than capitalism... something that is not driven by constantly growing consumption...
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FEAR MONGER!! LOSERS!!!!!!
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been to Albania lately?
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From your comment I asume you have been there... and? what exactly you want to say with that?
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Decades of communism have left a less than advantageous economy and living conditions, not to mention extreme poverty and lack of economic opportunity.

I mean no disrespect to the peoples of eastern europe, I just use the region as an example of what not to do.
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I am not saying that communism was something good... But it is not much different than capitalism... there is many Eastern European countries who could quickly switch to capitalism after the fall of communism but where are we now? In enormous debt to IMF... almost every family has debt to banks...
is that higher standart of living...? Almost every person had property in 90's after we get independence... now many of those families have lost their properties to banks...

My point is that capitalism is failing... we need a new system... capitalism at some point was better than communism.... but it is not working any more.. we need something that can work better than capitalism... something that is not driven by constantly growing consumption...
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That's because capitalism the way the bankers and Wall Street run it is a pyramid scam, only the ones at the top make any money off it.
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Fear, fear, fear.

See OP, what you fail to understand is that fear and scare tactics are being trumped by tolerance and love in these days.

You better check yourself and put your fear mongering to rest or you'll miss the boat for a new world.

Rise above, friend.thumbs
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been to Albania lately?
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From your comment I asume you have been there... and? what exactly you want to say with that?
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Decades of communism have left a less than advantageous economy and living conditions, not to mention extreme poverty and lack of economic opportunity.

I mean no disrespect to the peoples of eastern europe, I just use the region as an example of what not to do.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 968649


I am not saying that communism was something good... But it is not much different than capitalism... there is many Eastern European countries who could quickly switch to capitalism after the fall of communism but where are we now? In enormous debt to IMF... almost every family has debt to banks...
is that higher standart of living...? Almost every person had property in 90's after we get independence... now many of those families have lost their properties to banks...

My point is that capitalism is failing... we need a new system... capitalism at some point was better than communism.... but it is not working any more.. we need something that can work better than capitalism... something that is not driven by constantly growing consumption...
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I hate to break this to you, but if you are living in eastern europe and then joined the ECB, you have never experienced capitalism

China, which has managed to lift hundreds of millions of people from poverty to middle class prosperity, is experiencing capitalism

oh the irony

China has created millions of millionaires, has seen the population become ignited with the excitement which comes with entrepreneurial success

and yet we in the west, the home of capitalism, are being scolded that it doesn't work

No, it is how it is being implemented...but it sure seems like someone wants China to succeed and the west to fail

When I was a kid, we would see pictures of China where the population was riding bikes, while we rode comfortable cars

Now we're being told that we should accept that our lifestyles and budgets may force us to ride bikes even as the car companies are celebrating the rich Chinese consumer now able to afford millions of new cars.....

wtf?

No, you guys went directly control by and debt to the Soviet Union, to control by and debt to the ECB and IMF

sorry
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Sounds good in theory but Dems never own anything that goes wrong. They always find someone else to blame.
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Not this time - 'Teflon' liberals force others to put hands on them to take them down. They will scream 'violence' when it is 'justice' for hurting others.

Libs have done it this time alright. We are now 100% the D.S.A. for Divided States Of America.

YOU OWN IT LIBS!!
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bowing down to the soviet union?


I stopped reading right there. That is Ridiculous.



There is none anymore.
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Republicans OWN the terrorist attack on 911 that killed over 2000 people. You also OWN the Iraq War that killed over 1500 of our bravest. Under Bush's deregulated Wall St. Republicans TANKED the WORLDS ECONOMY.

The mess Democrats are cleaning up now is directly linked to "Conservatives." They want Govt out of our lives except when it comes to What We Put Into Our Body & Total Govt Control Over Women's Reproductive Choices.

Im curious, what business is it of a Govt. to regulate personal choices? What freaks, no wonder you kooks lost.
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There is really no arguing this. We can clearly see who they are and what they are doing. Look at their agenda and rhetoric.

All liberals and leftists know is jealousy and sheer hatred for happy, self reliant, free and independent people.

They just can't do it them selves, so they whish to bring free people down and stamp them out.

There is no use hiding behind politics and rhetoric anymore, it's factual psychology and starting to become self evident. They can't keep it hidden any longer. They are truly a horde of failed people.
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Republicans OWN the terrorist attack on 911 that killed over 2000 people. You also OWN the Iraq War that killed over 1500 of our bravest. Under Bush's deregulated Wall St. Republicans TANKED the WORLDS ECONOMY.

The mess Democrats are cleaning up now is directly linked to "Conservatives." They want Govt out of our lives except when it comes to What We Put Into Our Body & Total Govt Control Over Women's Reproductive Choices.

Im curious, what business is it of a Govt. to regulate personal choices? What freaks, no wonder you kooks lost.
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Cleaning up? You must be dimwitted this morning.


THEY PLAY on the SAME TEAM.



Sometimes one another is benched.


They are on the same team.


Quite deluding to see us still stuck in the paradigm.


Democrats cleaning up the mess GB made? That's laughable.



They are continuing the crusade against freedom and truth.


open em.

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