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Is This The True Trinity and Meaning?

 
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Father: Fore-Thought
Mother: The Thought
Son: Reflection of the two thoughts
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


It seems a metaphor of creativity / creation in 3 dimensional aspect... man, woman, offspring (olden days - son). Sun, Earth, Moon.... fore- thought, thought, reflection (creation / manifestation).
I would replace the word fore-thought with divinity (or fore though from a divine nature).
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Father: Fore-Thought
Mother: The Thought
Son: Reflection of the two thoughts
 Quoting: Motion & Rest




It seems a metaphor of creativity



/ creation in 3 dimensional aspect... man, woman, offspring (olden days - son). Sun, Earth, Moon.... fore- thought, thought, reflection (creation / manifestation).
I would replace the word fore-thought with divinity (or fore though from a divine nature).
 Quoting: NZ1



Exactly...


To Create.

Which...Man does.

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I think you will hear a million different views of what it means.

maybe you should look for what it means in other religions, surely something so important must have left atleast a fingerprint in various religions and faiths :)
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hi seer :)
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Father: Fore-Thought
Mother: The Thought
Son: Reflection of the two thoughts
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


1+1=1


vesicapisces

triangle1

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


1+1=1 Prefect!! I knew it wasn't two, I used to tell people it was 5. How far can you see, seer?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


It is also 5

4 +1 = 5

God the Father 1
God the HS 1
God the Son 1
Me, who accepts God ... 1

That's 4

Either you who have accepted God or you who have not accepted God. +1

That comes to 5.

Last Edited by A Friend on 11/13/2012 02:07 PM
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No. There is no female in the trinity. They are all referred to as 'He'.
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Actually, the 3rd is referred to as the "Holy Ghost" and is considered Female in Spirit by Gnostics.

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No. There is no female in the trinity. They are all referred to as 'He'.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny

It is a name used because of their higher authority. God is male and the Holy Spirit is female and Christ is their child, not all that complicated. Ge.1 starts out mentioning God and the Holy Spirit, the verse below created mankin in the image (physical appearance and likeness (relationship between the two)

Ge.1:27
So God created man in his own image,
in the image of God created he him;
male and female created he them.
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The father is the one talking.

The sun is the one listening.

The holy spirit is what is going between the two.

They are ONE.
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Father: Fore-Thought
Mother: The Thought
Son: Reflection of the two thoughts
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


It seems a metaphor of creativity / creation in 3 dimensional aspect... man, woman, offspring (olden days - son). Sun, Earth, Moon.... fore- thought, thought, reflection (creation / manifestation).
I would replace the word fore-thought with divinity (or fore though from a divine nature).
 Quoting: NZ1


I agree. In all they are all divine. The father is the pre-existant "Thought" or the eternal one. The mother would be the manifet of the thought. Something went wrong and created material natured beings.

Last Edited by Motion & Rest on 11/13/2012 04:14 PM
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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No. There is no female in the trinity. They are all referred to as 'He'.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Actually, the 3rd is referred to as the "Holy Ghost" and is considered Female in Spirit by Gnostics.

yupo33
 Quoting: BillTheKat


Could the Holy Ghost be the counterfiet spirit, while the Holy spirit is the real version? Why call one a dead ghost and the other a living spirit?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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The father is the one talking.

The sun is the one listening.

The holy spirit is what is going between the two.

They are ONE.
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Are we the animate for this tri-Power?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Father: Fore-Thought
Mother: The Thought
Son: Reflection of the two thoughts
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


1+1=1


vesicapisces

triangle1

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


1+1=1 Prefect!! I knew it wasn't two, I used to tell people it was 5.


How far
can you see, seer?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest



How Far?

That is a good question...


Hopefully far enough.

Indeed.

ouroboros
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As long as you can still imagine you will live/make it. Look into the infinty and reflect it back!
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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each part of the trinity is referred to as Person(s)

God is triune in nature. He is not a male/man. But the Hebrew language uses the masculine form. God is not a gender. He is what He is. Non-created, Eternal, Perfect.

The Holy Spirit is not only called the Spirit of Truth. He is also called the Helper, the Restrainer, the Spirit, The Spirit of God, The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord, The Spirit of Christ.

God is difficult if impossible to define. But, we know that He is a "person" with a character, a personality, a spirit, a mind, an intent, etc etc etc.

Interestingly enough, humans are made in God's image. We are also triune in nature (body, mind/will/emotions (soul) and spirit)

God is three "persons" in One.

God the Father (source)
God the Son (body/word)
God the Spirit (omnipresent Spirit)
"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
--Michah 6:8
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each part of the trinity is referred to as Person(s)

God is triune in nature. He is not a male/man. But the Hebrew language uses the masculine form. God is not a gender. He is what He is. Non-created, Eternal, Perfect.

The Holy Spirit is not only called the Spirit of Truth. He is also called the Helper, the Restrainer, the Spirit, The Spirit of God, The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord, The Spirit of Christ.

God is difficult if impossible to define. But, we know that He is a "person" with a character, a personality, a spirit, a mind, an intent, etc etc etc.

Interestingly enough, humans are made in God's image. We are also triune in nature (body, mind/will/emotions (soul) and spirit)

God is three "persons" in One.

God the Father (source)
God the Son (body/word)
God the Spirit (omnipresent Spirit)
 Quoting: Salt


Why do you have to have a body to have will and emotion? Those feelings are thoughts and opperate in another realm than the body.
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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more names for the Holy Spirit
(each name reflects a facet of His character)

The Holy Spirit is called "The Spirit of Wisdom."

The Holy Spirit is called "The Spirit of Understanding."

The Holy Spirit is called "The Spirit of Counsel."

The Holy Spirit is called "The Spirit of Power."

The Holy Spirit is called "The Spirit of Knowledge."

The Holy Spirit is called "The Spirit of the Fear [reverence] of the Lord."

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"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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“Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper
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He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
--Michah 6:8
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each part of the trinity is referred to as Person(s)

God is triune in nature. He is not a male/man. But the Hebrew language uses the masculine form. God is not a gender. He is what He is. Non-created, Eternal, Perfect.

The Holy Spirit is not only called the Spirit of Truth. He is also called the Helper, the Restrainer, the Spirit, The Spirit of God, The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord, The Spirit of Christ.

God is difficult if impossible to define. But, we know that He is a "person" with a character, a personality, a spirit, a mind, an intent, etc etc etc.

Interestingly enough, humans are made in God's image. We are also triune in nature (body, mind/will/emotions (soul) and spirit)

God is three "persons" in One.

God the Father (source)
God the Son (body/word)
God the Spirit (omnipresent Spirit)
 Quoting: Salt


Why do you have to have a body to have will and emotion? Those feelings are thoughts and opperate in another realm than the body.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


you don't. your mind/will/emotions stay with you forever as this is your soul.
"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
--Michah 6:8
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each part of the trinity is referred to as Person(s)

God is triune in nature. He is not a male/man. But the Hebrew language uses the masculine form. God is not a gender. He is what He is. Non-created, Eternal, Perfect.

The Holy Spirit is not only called the Spirit of Truth. He is also called the Helper, the Restrainer, the Spirit, The Spirit of God, The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord, The Spirit of Christ.

God is difficult if impossible to define. But, we know that He is a "person" with a character, a personality, a spirit, a mind, an intent, etc etc etc.

Interestingly enough, humans are made in God's image. We are also triune in nature (body, mind/will/emotions (soul) and spirit)

God is three "persons" in One.

God the Father (source)
God the Son (body/word)
God the Spirit (omnipresent Spirit)
 Quoting: Salt


Why do you have to have a body to have will and emotion? Those feelings are thoughts and opperate in another realm than the body.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


you don't. your mind/will/emotions stay with you forever as this is your soul.
 Quoting: Salt


the only part that leaves us when we die is our physical body. the flesh will die. everything else remains.
"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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“Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper
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He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
--Michah 6:8
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The Trinity...

Experience<---Balance--->Perception

--->0<---


:balance3:

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


Isn't that called becoming "Aware"?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


Yes.

Understanding IS...KNOWING that which one chooses for oneSelf.

We choose our Tomorrow...


Strength comes from overcoming Difficulty.

In all forms.


Hence...

"Practice makes Perfect..."




We celebrate Genius for their Passion.

For their Drive.

For THAT...which makes them Special.



What is IT, that makes them special?


Something...


:thedream:


It's their Wonder...and great Humility.

Gratefulness for that which they See...

Beauty.


What is it that Inspires?

:CraterLake:

:)
 Quoting: Seer777


I will state that understanding and knowing are slightly different words. The etymology of the first is german, which means literally standing under neath something. You know because its above you. And you see it.
Knowing is more of an abstract concept... Cheers
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Atleast that is my interpretation :) , that is what this is.all.about... Right?
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Understanding IS...KNOWING that which one chooses for oneSelf.
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Understanding and knowing are slightly different words. The etymology of the first is german, which means literally standing under neath something. You know because its above you. And you see it.
Knowing is more of an abstract concept... Cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18971497


Yes.

I agree.

The sentence is to be read in full for proper context.


Perhaps you may enjoy this video...



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each part of the trinity is referred to as Person(s)

God is triune in nature. He is not a male/man. But the Hebrew language uses the masculine form. God is not a gender. He is what He is. Non-created, Eternal, Perfect.

The Holy Spirit is not only called the Spirit of Truth. He is also called the Helper, the Restrainer, the Spirit, The Spirit of God, The Spirit of the Sovereign Lord, The Spirit of Christ.

God is difficult if impossible to define. But, we know that He is a "person" with a character, a personality, a spirit, a mind, an intent, etc etc etc.

Interestingly enough, humans are made in God's image. We are also triune in nature (body, mind/will/emotions (soul) and spirit)

God is three "persons" in One.

God the Father (source)
God the Son (body/word)
God the Spirit (omnipresent Spirit)
 Quoting: Salt


Why do you have to have a body to have will and emotion? Those feelings are thoughts and opperate in another realm than the body.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


you don't. your mind/will/emotions stay with you forever as this is your soul.
 Quoting: Salt


the only part that leaves us when we die is our physical body. the flesh will die. everything else remains.
 Quoting: Salt


Then what's the reason for the body?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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imagine a triangle. /_\/_\
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Looks like a vagina to me...
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Why do you have to have a body to have will and emotion? Those feelings are thoughts and opperate in another realm than the body.
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


you don't. your mind/will/emotions stay with you forever as this is your soul.
 Quoting: Salt


the only part that leaves us when we die is our physical body. the flesh will die. everything else remains.
 Quoting: Salt


Then what's the reason for the body?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


it's the Earth suit.
"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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“Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper
---

He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
--Michah 6:8
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Understanding leads to knowing.... From understanding you can abstract your "knowing" to other things.
for example: i understood (observed) rain comes from a cloud. So now that i "know" rain comes from clouds, maybe i can catch some in a cup. The understanding part is critical, from there the knowing branches. Maybe i should take shelter when i see clouds.... Does this.make.any sense?
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That is one way of putting it into words.
No one has ever seen a perfect circle, nor a perfectly straight line, yet everyone knows what a circle and a straight line are.
Perceived circles or lines are not exactly circular or straight, and true circles and lines could never be detected since by definition they are sets of infinitely small points.
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you don't. your mind/will/emotions stay with you forever as this is your soul.
 Quoting: Salt


the only part that leaves us when we die is our physical body. the flesh will die. everything else remains.
 Quoting: Salt


Then what's the reason for the body?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


it's the Earth suit.
 Quoting: Salt


So spirits cannot roam earth? Why do we need to live on solid planet, why can't it be a gas/light planet?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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And i get what you were saying. What you said did make sense, since i understood ;) where you were going with it. I wanted to clarify it though.
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the only part that leaves us when we die is our physical body. the flesh will die. everything else remains.
 Quoting: Salt


Then what's the reason for the body?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


it's the Earth suit.
 Quoting: Salt


So spirits cannot roam earth? Why do we need to live on solid planet, why can't it be a gas/light planet?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


the only spirits that roam the earth are not human. there are no ghosts of people roaming around. angels and demons can roam.

we live on a solid planet because that was God's intent and design. the physical realm was God's architecture. I don't know why, it just is. i have some theories.
"The only religion that God the Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being ensnared by the world." --James 1:27
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“Read everything, listen to everybody, don’t trust anything unless you can prove it with your own research” --William Cooper
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He has shown you, O mortal, what is good. And what does the LORD require of you?
To seek justice, to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God.
--Michah 6:8
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imagine a triangle. /_\/_\
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Looks like a vagina to me...
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Lol.... Funmy.boy, that would be the ugliest cunt ive seen.
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Then what's the reason for the body?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


it's the Earth suit.
 Quoting: Salt


So spirits cannot roam earth? Why do we need to live on solid planet, why can't it be a gas/light planet?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


the only spirits that roam the earth are not human. there are no ghosts of people roaming around. angels and demons can roam.

we live on a solid planet because that was God's intent and design. the physical realm was God's architecture. I don't know why, it just is. i have some theories.
 Quoting: Salt


So the human has no Spirit within? Why create material in the first place if there is a better form of creation known(Angels)?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Understanding IS...KNOWING that which one chooses for oneSelf.
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Understanding and knowing are slightly different words. The etymology of the first is german, which means literally standing under neath something. You know because its above you. And you see it.
Knowing is more of an abstract concept... Cheers
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 18971497


Yes.

I agree.

The sentence is to be read in full for proper context.


Perhaps you may enjoy this video...



hf
 Quoting: Seer777


Those are great quotes in the vid
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."

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