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Is This The True Trinity and Meaning?

 
God Loves ALL

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11/14/2012 04:10 AM
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No. There is no female in the trinity. They are all referred to as 'He'.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


The Holy Spirit is a he?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


The HOLY Spirit is female energy, all universes have a MOther Spirit who is the Daughter of the Infinite Spirit. The rising of the Kundalini is the rising of female energy to meet the male energy of the Father and one is then filled with the HOly Spirit.

Earth has not progressed well enough to even study the Trinity yet. There is almost no point in trying to explain it.

Suffice it to say, to Christians, that the Trinity, is not the Daddy of Jesus, Jesus, and their mysterious holy spirit. Completely mucked up.

Last Edited by God Loves ALL on 11/14/2012 04:11 AM
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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11/14/2012 04:23 AM

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The Father = the Soul
The Son = the Body
The Holy Spirit = the Nature
That which is - has already been, And what is to be - has already been. Quote: King Solomon.
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The Father = the Soul
The Son = the Body
The Holy Spirit = the Nature
 Quoting: Ozicell


What happens when you die in physical?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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11/14/2012 11:49 AM

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No. There is no female in the trinity. They are all referred to as 'He'.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Actually, the 3rd is referred to as the "Holy Ghost" and is considered Female in Spirit by Gnostics.

yupo33
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I've no doubt that the gnostics do believe that.

But the OP asked for the True meaning of the trinity.
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No. There is no female in the trinity. They are all referred to as 'He'.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Actually, the 3rd is referred to as the "Holy Ghost" and is considered Female in Spirit by Gnostics.

yupo33
 Quoting: BillTheKat


I've no doubt that the gnostics do believe that.

But the OP asked for the True meaning of the trinity.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


How can anyone have proof of what it truly is? U will call my proof lies and I will call yours something of the similar nature. We are all blind to the whole truth orelse we wouldn't be here
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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How can anyone have proof of what it truly is? U will call my proof lies and I will call yours something of the similar nature. We are all blind to the whole truth orelse we wouldn't be here
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


Here is proof you seek.

What is the word which names the thing that is before the word?

You cannot answer that, but obviously something is there because:

1. Nothing comes from nothing.
2. Something must come from something.

What ever that "thing" is, it receives and sends out.

However, it can only send out what it has been programed to send out.

Lets call this first point in infinity, the son.

Here in this abyss, this nothing, all sensory input goes.

The sensory input programs the Son.

Thus, it is the Father.

It has a voice.

You hear these words don't you? Are they not within you AND without you?

So, with a little twist in perspective, the two become one.

There really is no separation, and never has been.

Did that make sense or do I have try a different approach?
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No. There is no female in the trinity. They are all referred to as 'He'.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


Actually, the 3rd is referred to as the "Holy Ghost" and is considered Female in Spirit by Gnostics.

:yupo33:
 Quoting: BillTheKat


I've no doubt that the gnostics do believe that.

But the OP asked for the True meaning of the trinity.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


How can anyone have proof of what it truly is? U will call my proof lies and I will call yours something of the similar nature. We are all blind to the whole truth orelse we wouldn't be here
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


if i might jump in here...
there is a lot that goes into verifying documents from ancient times. it is a science. the books that made the canon were verifiable. they are historically sound, authors are verified, and the archaeological details are evidentiary.

the gnostic books are also historical documents. we know several things about them. the authors are not verifiable and found to be forgeries, they came from philosophical groups that came way after the fact, and they are in strict contrast to the holy scriptures.

the gnostic books, while very interesting reads, are proven false, forged, and man--made philosophical ideals that came hundreds of years after the fact.

scriptures are not some willy nilly group of ancient scrolls that have been so horribly tampered with that they no longer represent the meaning or provability. they are sound documents.

as a seminary student, i have the privilege of the inside track on these types of findings. most secular people simply do not understand what all goes into verifying the ancient scrolls and writings, as well as the historical environment and data from the span of time that these writings took place.
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Actually, the 3rd is referred to as the "Holy Ghost" and is considered Female in Spirit by Gnostics.

yupo33
 Quoting: BillTheKat


I've no doubt that the gnostics do believe that.

But the OP asked for the True meaning of the trinity.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


How can anyone have proof of what it truly is? U will call my proof lies and I will call yours something of the similar nature. We are all blind to the whole truth orelse we wouldn't be here
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


if i might jump in here...
there is a lot that goes into verifying documents from ancient times. it is a science. the books that made the canon were verifiable. they are historically sound, authors are verified, and the archaeological details are evidentiary.

the gnostic books are also historical documents. we know several things about them. the authors are not verifiable and found to be forgeries, they came from philosophical groups that came way after the fact, and they are in strict contrast to the holy scriptures.

the gnostic books, while very interesting reads, are proven false, forged, and man--made philosophical ideals that came hundreds of years after the fact.

scriptures are not some willy nilly group of ancient scrolls that have been so horribly tampered with that they no longer represent the meaning or provability. they are sound documents.

as a seminary student, i have the privilege of the inside track on these types of findings. most secular people simply do not understand what all goes into verifying the ancient scrolls and writings, as well as the historical environment and data from the span of time that these writings took place.
 Quoting: Salt


Then why wasn't the book adam and eve book(I think that's the book you quoted) you quoted from included? Is that book verified?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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Re: Is This The True Trinity and Meaning?
How can anyone have proof of what it truly is? U will call my proof lies and I will call yours something of the similar nature. We are all blind to the whole truth orelse we wouldn't be here
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


Here is proof you seek.

What is the word which names the thing that is before the word?

You cannot answer that, but obviously something is there because:

1. Nothing comes from nothing.
2. Something must come from something.

What ever that "thing" is, it receives and sends out.

However, it can only send out what it has been programed to send out.

Lets call this first point in infinity, the son.

Here in this abyss, this nothing, all sensory input goes.

The sensory input programs the Son.

Thus, it is the Father.

It has a voice.

You hear these words don't you? Are they not within you AND without you?

So, with a little twist in perspective, the two become one.

There really is no separation, and never has been.

Did that make sense or do I have try a different approach?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13843864


I'm picking up what you are putting down. Same perspective, different words.

What's the origin of the abyss? If I make the words from within manifest outside is that a way of making two into one in this reality? Are words part of the key?
"If you bring forth what is within you, what you have will save you. If you do not have that within you, what you do not have within you [will] kill you."

"Whoever has come to know the world has discovered a carcass, and whoever has discovered a carcass, of that person the world is not worthy."

"Those who know all, but are lacking in themselves, are utterly lacking."
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I've no doubt that the gnostics do believe that.

But the OP asked for the True meaning of the trinity.
 Quoting: Shoot straight Johnny


How can anyone have proof of what it truly is? U will call my proof lies and I will call yours something of the similar nature. We are all blind to the whole truth orelse we wouldn't be here
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


if i might jump in here...
there is a lot that goes into verifying documents from ancient times. it is a science. the books that made the canon were verifiable. they are historically sound, authors are verified, and the archaeological details are evidentiary.

the gnostic books are also historical documents. we know several things about them. the authors are not verifiable and found to be forgeries, they came from philosophical groups that came way after the fact, and they are in strict contrast to the holy scriptures.

the gnostic books, while very interesting reads, are proven false, forged, and man--made philosophical ideals that came hundreds of years after the fact.

scriptures are not some willy nilly group of ancient scrolls that have been so horribly tampered with that they no longer represent the meaning or provability. they are sound documents.

as a seminary student, i have the privilege of the inside track on these types of findings. most secular people simply do not understand what all goes into verifying the ancient scrolls and writings, as well as the historical environment and data from the span of time that these writings took place.
 Quoting: Salt


Then why wasn't the book adam and eve book(I think that's the book you quoted) you quoted from included? Is that book verified?
 Quoting: Motion & Rest


the old testament apocryphals are different. the authors are verified, but they were removed by Jewish leaders because they clearly detailed prophecy and presence of Jesus. The Jewish leaders of the time wouldn't have it in the Torah/Tanakh.

sometimes the authors were in fact themselves (Enoch, etc) and sometimes they were the sons or other family members (like in the case of Adam and Eve's books)

Of course, there are also false old testament era books as well.

you have to know what to look for and how to identify and discern. for example, books of the Kabbalah are real, authentic, verifiable, etc, but they are not holy scripture.

any pseudopigraphical book in NT times and after are FALSE.

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