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*ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber

 
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icke gets really upset:


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Ok, David got totally cornered by Ventura and that's what happens when you claim for over two decades about the existence of something extremely controversial and don't provide physical evidence of it, BUT and that's a big "BUT", Ventura sounds like a government shill trying to discredit the SUBJECT, no the messenger.

He wants so bad see reptilians? What about he go knock on the gates of Groom Lake, Dulce or any other secret military underground facility in America?

Not so though and not so truther huh??
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


at the start of the interview, ventura told icke he went to dulce and many other places searching and found nothing.

i think the questions he posed to icke were justified.
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Did Ventura entered in the deepest levels of Dulce or any of the military bases he said he went?? Or did he visit a fucking office of press relations and public affairs, expecting to see any reptilian drinking a cup of coffee???
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it doesn't matter, icke is the one farting loudly about their existence and making enormous amounts of money from his claims, so... it's only fair that he provides solid proof to everyone.
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Normally I love Jesse Ventura, but I didn't think this was fair.

I think there's just a major disconnect between the two of them, because Ventura is a staunch "Where's the beef?" guy, very 3D-minded, as in "Show me the proof!"

Icke, on the other hand, talks about stuff part of which you can only experience in a meditative sort of mindset, "peering through the veil," so to speak. About a decade ago, I did daily spiritual and focusing exercises, and I was able to see things other people couldn't see. There's a certain way of looking at things that resembles what you read in Carlos Castaneda books (what they call "Seeing"), that reveals things you usually wouldn't be able to see with your eyes.

For example, once I saw a fierce, goblin-like ethereal entity clinging to the back of a woman's neck, apparently feeding off her. An acquaintance of mine, who is a completely no-nonsense business woman and real estate agent, confided to me that she once saw a reptilian-looking, man-size, bipedal creature, and I believe her because it's so totally unlike her to make things like that up.

So I see where Ventura is coming from and where Icke is coming from, and the two view points just don't match. But to rip Icke a new one like this just isn't right.

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ikes networth . is 25 million.
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A hard line materialist will never begin to grasp the viewpoint of a metaphysical theorist... two different frequencies of perception.
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^^^THIS^^^^
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I don't get why some say Ventura is a jerk? He asked the tough question and Icke was squirming and fumbling his words. Icke knows the Reptilian theory is strictly based on eyewitness testimony at best which makes it sketchy at best. Ventura called him out on it, that's all. Even though Ventura's show is sensationalized, at least it still exposes things to people who otherwise wouldn't know about it.
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I believe in Jesse Ventura.
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And he laughs at you.
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ventura is a disservice to truth
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bump
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a narcissistic response.
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moneys an illusion according to icke , but he sure does love it, shame he dose not practice what he preaches.
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Ventura + stupids = profit.
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every whistleblower that remains alive and are allowed to make money of their work is in a certain way a psy-op agent, even if they don't know it themselves. they mix half-truths in the story and lead the followers astray into the abyss
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Amen !
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every whistleblower that remains alive and are allowed to make money of their work is in a certain way a psy-op agent, even if they don't know it themselves. they mix half-truths in the story and lead the followers astray into the abyss
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Amen !
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Ditto that! Amen!!
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replady
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the opposite is true. they are being ushered to the exits. bleeding light as the truth is exposed; their entire power is deception of gods law of which they exploit and conceal.

their knowledge, once used for oppression, is now in check

That said, we will treat them with honor, dignity, and respect upon their passing.

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Re: *ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber
Ventura probably is too old too wrestle, too dumb to be in politics, and probably can't even operate a screwdriver properly.

Hence his big career in the conspiracy business.

Laughable. But as long as it pays his bills, it's somewhat respectable. What isn't is pretending to be a SEAL. I think new laws can put you in jail for this...haven't heard him say it in a while either.
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There really is no reason Icke got his panties in a wad. Jessie was a little harsh with the beginning questions but when it comes down to it, Icke could have given examples at least instead of turning to "Oh well read my 7 thousand page book; Spend 21 years researching and being laughed at" Icke did that to himself. Icke slit his own throat by not giving an example after 21 solid years of research..and by agreeing to go to TruTV. drama
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when ventura asked him for proof icke used his usual get out of jail free card: they can't be seen because they exist beyond this dimension. yet, in his books he says they are physical and live in underground cavern cities. he just uses the interdimensional excuse when asked to provide proof.

seeing as icke makes so much money from his claims, it's only fair he provides hard evidence. it's like paying someone for a service, yet they take the money and provide you with nothing in return.

that's theft in my books.
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They do exactly the same things in churches, mosques and synogogs every single day to billions of people...funny that...

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LOL

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"So tell me how i turn the radio on and see a reptilian."

knockout
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There really is no reason Icke got his panties in a wad. Jessie was a little harsh with the beginning questions but when it comes down to it, Icke could have given examples at least instead of turning to "Oh well read my 7 thousand page book; Spend 21 years researching and being laughed at" Icke did that to himself. Icke slit his own throat by not giving an example after 21 solid years of research..and by agreeing to go to TruTV. drama
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17506149


To me, it looked like he was just blindsided and somewhat speechless... probably didn't see that one coming.
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A wrestler that can read? give me a break. Jessica Ventura should have talked to Preston Nichols but then his goal is to scare people AWAY from this subject.
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A wrestler that can read? give me a break. Jessica Ventura should have talked to Preston Nichols but then his goal is to scare people AWAY from this subject.
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You do know pro wrestlers are just actors who work out right? So they do need to read scripts.

Just sayin'
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moneys an illusion according to icke , but he sure does love it, shame he dose not practice what he preaches.
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and the conniving conman is on permanent holidays abroad, i.e., "public speaking tours" in Hawaii, australia, etc, while simultaneously making a fortune from his bullshit.

and he'd have you believe he lives a modest life in his one bedroom flat in the isle of wight. he spends most of time in luxury hotels abroad - being waited on by room service.
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moneys an illusion according to icke , but he sure does love it, shame he dose not practice what he preaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7631061


and the conniving conman is on permanent holidays abroad, i.e., "public speaking tours" in Hawaii, australia, etc, while simultaneously making a fortune from his bullshit.

and he'd have you believe he lives a modest life in his one bedroom flat in the isle of wight. he spends most of time in luxury hotels abroad - being waited on by room service.
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Hulk need to pound tje lizard crap out of his ass
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hahaha

ventura is a total shill

but Icke is even worse
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Seriously?

Ventura is a shill? I thought he was the real deal. Interesting.

hmm
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He is the real deal.
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Ok, David got totally cornered by Ventura and that's what happens when you claim for over two decades about the existence of something extremely controversial and don't provide physical evidence of it, BUT and that's a big "BUT", Ventura sounds like a government shill trying to discredit the SUBJECT, no the messenger.

He wants so bad see reptilians? What about he go knock on the gates of Groom Lake, Dulce or any other secret military underground facility in America?

Not so though and not so truther huh??
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


at the start of the interview, ventura told icke he went to dulce and many other places searching and found nothing.

i think the questions he posed to icke were justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5846230


Did Ventura entered in the deepest levels of Dulce or any of the military bases he said he went?? Or did he visit a fucking office of press relations and public affairs, expecting to see any reptilian drinking a cup of coffee???
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


it doesn't matter, icke is the one farting loudly about their existence and making enormous amounts of money from his claims, so... it's only fair that he provides solid proof to everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5846230


Oh yeah, it TOTALLY matters, when you say "I've been chasing down everywhere for these reptilians and I haven't found any", when you actually DIDN'T!

Ok fair enough, Icke shouldn't ever pull the alarm about the existence of reptilians, without provide physical evidence, but Ventura is not exactly the most qualified person to debunk him, because he's a product of Hollywood and the Illuminati entertainment industry.

Oh yeah, a shill debunking someone who's trying to expose his bosses??? Really???
"Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda)
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Ok, David got totally cornered by Ventura and that's what happens when you claim for over two decades about the existence of something extremely controversial and don't provide physical evidence of it, BUT and that's a big "BUT", Ventura sounds like a government shill trying to discredit the SUBJECT, no the messenger.

He wants so bad see reptilians? What about he go knock on the gates of Groom Lake, Dulce or any other secret military underground facility in America?

Not so though and not so truther huh??
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


at the start of the interview, ventura told icke he went to dulce and many other places searching and found nothing.

i think the questions he posed to icke were justified.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5846230


Did Ventura entered in the deepest levels of Dulce or any of the military bases he said he went?? Or did he visit a fucking office of press relations and public affairs, expecting to see any reptilian drinking a cup of coffee???
 Quoting: UndercoverAlien


it doesn't matter, icke is the one farting loudly about their existence and making enormous amounts of money from his claims, so... it's only fair that he provides solid proof to everyone.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 5846230


Oh yeah, it TOTALLY matters, when you say "I've been chasing down everywhere for these reptilians and I haven't found any", when you actually DIDN'T!

Ok fair enough, Icke shouldn't ever pull the alarm about the existence of reptilians, without provide physical evidence, but Ventura is not exactly the most qualified person to debunk him, because he's a product of Hollywood and the Illuminati entertainment industry.

Oh yeah, a shill debunking someone who's trying to expose his bosses??? Really???
"Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda)
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David dIcke is light years ahead of anything jesse can comprehend - jesse is stuck in the 5 sense end of this conspiracy, the problem - icke goes beyond it, to the solution - icke was offended by the interview because he saw it as making a mockery of his 20 plus years of research, and it can not be understood in a 5 to 10 minute interview - it takes alot of reading and research to understand this stuff, and i just dont know that jesse has the capacity for it. he should at least read some of icke's books to educate himself a bit on the subject matter before he goes and trashes it. icke is just out of jesse's league.
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moneys an illusion according to icke , but he sure does love it, shame he dose not practice what he preaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7631061


Who says he doesn't? Just because he has money? It's not just "the love of money" that's the root of all evil, envy is one of the seven deadly sins too.
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Normally I love Jesse Ventura, but I didn't think this was fair.

I think there's just a major disconnect between the two of them, because Ventura is a staunch "Where's the beef?" guy, very 3D-minded, as in "Show me the proof!"

Icke, on the other hand, talks about stuff part of which you can only experience in a meditative sort of mindset, "peering through the veil," so to speak. About a decade ago, I did daily spiritual and focusing exercises, and I was able to see things other people couldn't see. There's a certain way of looking at things that resembles what you read in Carlos Castaneda books (what they call "Seeing"), that reveals things you usually wouldn't be able to see with your eyes.

For example, once I saw a fierce, goblin-like ethereal entity clinging to the back of a woman's neck, apparently feeding off her. An acquaintance of mine, who is a completely no-nonsense business woman and real estate agent, confided to me that she once saw a reptilian-looking, man-size, bipedal creature, and I believe her because it's so totally unlike her to make things like that up.

So I see where Ventura is coming from and where Icke is coming from, and the two view points just don't match. But to rip Icke a new one like this just isn't right.
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Yes but Icke should be able to stand up to scrutiny like that because that's what most people think. He should be able to give straight forward answers to straight up questions. That's the only way people will take him serious.

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