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*ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber

 
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moneys an illusion according to icke , but he sure does love it, shame he dose not practice what he preaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7631061


and the conniving conman is on permanent holidays abroad, i.e., "public speaking tours" in Hawaii, australia, etc, while simultaneously making a fortune from his bullshit.

and he'd have you believe he lives a modest life in his one bedroom flat in the isle of wight. he spends most of time in luxury hotels abroad - being waited on by room service.
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Oh, boo-hoo. I can't believe these days people are hated on just because they have money. If you had his kind of money, would YOU sit in a one-bedroom flat day in and day out, not going anywhere? Hardly, I'd say.

I have no sympathy for thugs like banksters, but he worked hard to get that money... and endured years and years of absolute ridicule. In the early days, he couldn't even fill a broom closet with his speeches; it took many years for him to get those big audiences -- I'd say that money has been hard earned.
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Normally I love Jesse Ventura, but I didn't think this was fair.

I think there's just a major disconnect between the two of them, because Ventura is a staunch "Where's the beef?" guy, very 3D-minded, as in "Show me the proof!"

Icke, on the other hand, talks about stuff part of which you can only experience in a meditative sort of mindset, "peering through the veil," so to speak. About a decade ago, I did daily spiritual and focusing exercises, and I was able to see things other people couldn't see. There's a certain way of looking at things that resembles what you read in Carlos Castaneda books (what they call "Seeing"), that reveals things you usually wouldn't be able to see with your eyes.

For example, once I saw a fierce, goblin-like ethereal entity clinging to the back of a woman's neck, apparently feeding off her. An acquaintance of mine, who is a completely no-nonsense business woman and real estate agent, confided to me that she once saw a reptilian-looking, man-size, bipedal creature, and I believe her because it's so totally unlike her to make things like that up.

So I see where Ventura is coming from and where Icke is coming from, and the two view points just don't match. But to rip Icke a new one like this just isn't right.
 Quoting: sylvie



Yes but Icke should be able to stand up to scrutiny like that because that's what most people think. He should be able to give straight forward answers to straight up questions. That's the only way people will take him serious.
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You cant give straight forward answer. Let me give you an instance....Can you give a straight forward answer to debunk the idea that America was not a nation founded under god and perhaps had never been free as you have been told? No you cant! You have to study and let someone take you through the steps. Its also more of a realisation that an impacted knowledge.

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Re: *ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber
If Icke is NOT Sir Richard Branson, as Wellawre1.com - HOW DOES HIS SON (who looks like Branton's son) get a contract with Virgin Records?

I mean - if us nutters had a son who sang and we went public and said the queen was a lizard, would SIR Richard Branson's company even return our phone calls?

[link to www.filmextras.co.uk]

I want an answer!
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Icke is NOT Richard Branson!! Relatives perhaps... And Branson is ANUNNAKI bloodline! How many civilians have their own private space program and are allowed to put spaceships and space station prototypes in orbit??

Branson doesn't even look human! His face is weird and that body is probably just an avatar decoy!

If Icke and Branson are somehow related, then it puts Icke in the loop.
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If Icke is NOT Sir Richard Branson, as Wellawre1.com - HOW DOES HIS SON (who looks like Branton's son) get a contract with Virgin Records?

I mean - if us nutters had a son who sang and we went public and said the queen was a lizard, would SIR Richard Branson's company even return our phone calls?

[link to www.filmextras.co.uk]

I want an answer!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9069073


Icke is NOT Richard Branson!! Relatives perhaps... And Branson is ANUNNAKI bloodline! How many civilians have their own private space program and are allowed to put spaceships and space station prototypes in orbit??

Branson doesn't even look human! His face is weird and that body is probably just an avatar decoy!

If Icke and Branson are somehow related, then it puts Icke in the loop.
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moneys an illusion according to icke , but he sure does love it, shame he dose not practice what he preaches.
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Who says he doesn't? Just because he has money? It's not just "the love of money" that's the root of all evil, envy is one of the seven deadly sins too.
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well, i'm not religious, but seeing as you evidently are, don't you think it's wrong that icke accused jesus of being gay (in the biggest secret), while also stating that he doesn't exist? psychopath much?

and it's not envy, it's the ability to recognize a fraud who is fleecing people through lies.

he's a material person and not spiritual at all.
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I like Mr. Icke, but he is a fraud and Mr. Ventura clearly doesn't put up with his bullshit. It is nice to see the truth finally hit the big time with some big players like Ventura.
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Normally I love Jesse Ventura, but I didn't think this was fair.

I think there's just a major disconnect between the two of them, because Ventura is a staunch "Where's the beef?" guy, very 3D-minded, as in "Show me the proof!"

Icke, on the other hand, talks about stuff part of which you can only experience in a meditative sort of mindset, "peering through the veil," so to speak. About a decade ago, I did daily spiritual and focusing exercises, and I was able to see things other people couldn't see. There's a certain way of looking at things that resembles what you read in Carlos Castaneda books (what they call "Seeing"), that reveals things you usually wouldn't be able to see with your eyes.

For example, once I saw a fierce, goblin-like ethereal entity clinging to the back of a woman's neck, apparently feeding off her. An acquaintance of mine, who is a completely no-nonsense business woman and real estate agent, confided to me that she once saw a reptilian-looking, man-size, bipedal creature, and I believe her because it's so totally unlike her to make things like that up.

So I see where Ventura is coming from and where Icke is coming from, and the two view points just don't match. But to rip Icke a new one like this just isn't right.
 Quoting: sylvie



Yes but Icke should be able to stand up to scrutiny like that because that's what most people think. He should be able to give straight forward answers to straight up questions. That's the only way people will take him serious.
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Because he can't and this is the first time he has been seriously interviewed in a long time. In all the other interviews, they are David dIcke fans or lap dogs who get him on their video cameras and each video gets like a million views.

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Thanks OP. I consider that payback for me buying two tickets to his show and leaving half way through...

lmao what goes around, comes around dicke
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shills putting on a show for the sheeple. nothing else.
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Thanks OP. I consider that payback for me buying two tickets to his show and leaving half way through...

lmao what goes around, comes around dicke
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Yeah and just think that all he needs is a sucker in every town to support his "business." For some reason I don't think this interview will hurt the reptilian

tin foil hatlol

and illuminati business.

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Re: *ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber
AHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAA HAHAHAHAHHAHA David dIcke real name (Adam Ecke) is a total Nutjob and So is David "I'm Edgar Cayce" Wildick at his devine Wank job forum hahahaahaaha
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hahaha

ventura is a total shill

but Icke is even worse
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No, he is not.
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shills putting on a show for the sheeple. nothing else.
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Pretty much.
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hahaha

ventura is a total shill

but Icke is even worse
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Seriously?

Ventura is a shill? I thought he was the real deal. Interesting.

hmm
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I know. hmmm.. ventura a shill?

ABOUT WHAT???
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Re: *ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber
That was a dead heat in a "who's the biggest dickhead" competition.
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Re: *ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber
Icke just capitolized off others experiences, WoW!

I've said it over and over "unless you are the one experiencing the phenomoenon no-one believes you, just ridicule and embarresment,

To relive a fear so horrible is just not worth the money.
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In the movise contact

jodie foster says something lome i have all the proof "I" need

i just cant prove it to you

i wish i didnt k ow abput them
you refer to t as your ruling class but people lime me see them for what they really are and the things they do

i wish i wws still in a dream state like the most of you but i not

now i feel like i am constantly on the run from them because i k ow the truth about them

we are nothing more than their slaves and those of us that .will not be obediant slaves pay the price
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Icke is basically right, but not in the physical sense. He's an artist - kind of foofoo - but hes not completely wrong.

The reptilians are "soul types" if you want to call it something. They are people who are utterly unable to empathize with others.

This is the behavior exhibited by reptiles in the wild. Whereas even the lowliest or most vicious mammal will occasionally nurture another mammal, reptiles will just eat each other 100% of the time. Zero empathy 100% of the time. It's simply NOT in their DNA to resonate on that frequency.

Humans who lack empathy are the ones who rise the highest in this materialistic society, because they don't hesitate to make hard decisions where people get fucked.

They are the 'functional psychopaths.'

It's really very simple, but Icke just took some artistic license. He's right that he's the Son of God, too. All humans are Sons of God. it just sounds funny when he says it :P
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Icke did more than take artistic license. He has been caught in many a lie nd then wriggles out of it. He is a Pied Piper for the NWO.
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Could be. There is no doubt that disinfo can and is trickled out to these "truth' guys, to dilute the message or create utterly false subjects.

Icke does make a lot of wild statements, but a guy has got to make a living :P I'm not excusing him, but there is a point when you run out of money and will do almost anything to not starve.

I think he STARTED out with the best of intentions.
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My natural reaction to Icke's lizards is to call BS on it.

Well it would have been at least until a few years ago when I saw something else that shouldn't have been.

Now I guess I'm of the mind of don't expect me to spend my cash on it but sure I guess it could be one possible reality.
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Re: *ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber
This show was on last week.. I had made a post about it.. Clearly this show was to discredit Icke.. The fake reptilian eyes.. Hunting for reptiles and not finding any.. Then asking Icke to explain how you can find a reptilian. I cant prove or disprove reptilians, but I do know that cat eyes are very similar. Sure there may be some human out there with cat eyes, but they probably are still human and not a reptile. But also there have been 7 million people that have seen aliens. Anyway you put it, there is something going on. Conspiracy Theory took a turn for the worse with this episode.. I cant take Jesse seriously since he made a career of pro wrestling which is all staged, that is just as bad as Icke making money off of false information. But try to disprove Icke's reptilian agenda? You would have to interview everyone that lives on planet earth!
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moneys an illusion according to icke , but he sure does love it, shame he dose not practice what he preaches.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 7631061


Who says he doesn't? Just because he has money? It's not just "the love of money" that's the root of all evil, envy is one of the seven deadly sins too.
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well, i'm not religious, but seeing as you evidently are, don't you think it's wrong that icke accused jesus of being gay (in the biggest secret), while also stating that he doesn't exist? psychopath much?

and it's not envy, it's the ability to recognize a fraud who is fleecing people through lies.

he's a material person and not spiritual at all.
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He is entitled to his opinion wether you agree with him or not

the man you call jesus we know absolutely nothing about bit heresay
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hahaha

ventura is a total shill

but Icke is even worse
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Seriously?

Ventura is a shill? I thought he was the real deal. Interesting.

hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25699776


I know. hmmm.. ventura a shill?

ABOUT WHAT???
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Oh cmon

do you have to seriously ask?

Ventura is in primetime talking about his ridiculous cheesy truth show and icke spends his time off the radar and still has a following

if anything ventura is lime alex phoney
a quadruple agent shill meister of master proportio s
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hahaha

ventura is a total shill

but Icke is even worse
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


Seriously?

Ventura is a shill? I thought he was the real deal. Interesting.

hmm
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25699776


I know. hmmm.. ventura a shill?

ABOUT WHAT???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27374311


Oh cmon

do you have to seriously ask?

Ventura is in primetime talking about his ridiculous cheesy truth show and icke spends his time off the radar and still has a following

if anything ventura is lime alex phoney
a quadruple agent shill meister of master proportio s
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hahaha

ventura is a total shill

but Icke is even worse
 Quoting: ^TrInItY^


I have no reason to believe Jesse Ventura's a shill, I actually consider him genuine. He just can't get to the bottom of alot of the topics he tries to cover. I'd love to counsel his research tactics and resources. I have virtual warehouses full of factual munition. I watched many of his episodes and was disappointed, I'd have given him far better verbal munition for his interviews.

David dIcke on the other hand, I'm partly with you: Icke talks alot. But he doesn't have the big picture straight, and alot of his work is.. well, a long shot. I could give far better lectures, sticking with the facts and clearly stating what "may" be :D But hey - there's only a handful out there that even have a remote clue of what the hell "everything" is about IMHO. Most have good bits of information, but their thesis' are horrible.

You have to respect "the old loony" generation - research was alot harder back then. Today, those of us who still do real research can check facts alot quicker, thanks to the internet. On the other hand, in the vastness of information presented, you need a very solid foundation of facts to filter the bullshit. But as a whole - most tell a part of the truth - even if their explicitly lying.

"The whole is the truth", to quote Hegel..
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Re: *ouch!* jesse ventura puts icke on the spot over evidence of reptilians, and accuses him of being a money grabber
This show was on last week.. I had made a post about it.. Clearly this show was to discredit Icke.. The fake reptilian eyes.. Hunting for reptiles and not finding any.. Then asking Icke to explain how you can find a reptilian. I cant prove or disprove reptilians, but I do know that cat eyes are very similar. Sure there may be some human out there with cat eyes, but they probably are still human and not a reptile. But also there have been 7 million people that have seen aliens. Anyway you put it, there is something going on. Conspiracy Theory took a turn for the worse with this episode.. I cant take Jesse seriously since he made a career of pro wrestling which is all staged, that is just as bad as Icke making money off of false information. But try to disprove Icke's reptilian agenda? You would have to interview everyone that lives on planet earth!
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you don't need to disprove it because it's never been proven with evidence, it's purely based on hypothetical facts. it's a pretty bold theory. the burden of proof is on icke.
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They cut and edit the clips so much to the point where Icke looks like a confused stumbling idiot. Do you all see what's going on?

Jesse is a turncoat. I wouldn't trust him if I were you. He comes off like he's on our side (of truth) but I would be very cautious trusting his motives.

Icke tells the truth (as he and millions of others see it). Icke is not in it for the money. That much I feel.

Listen to Credo Mutwa. An African shaman has no reason to lie to the modern world. He wants nothing in return. So I'll leave it at that.

The relationship with reptilians and the ancient cultures (and the Vatican) is too enormous and coincidental to ignore. Ever wonder why they picked an asp for the role in Eden?

If we as a race are starting to accept that extraterrestrial beings MUST exist (for we canNOT be alone) then why is the notion of reptilians so laughable or hard to accept?

Why? Because there's so much disinformation and misdirection out there on the internet that it's no wonder. This place is no exception.


All you have to do is think and start connecting the dots.
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Wasn't Cleopatra killed by an asp?
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I could watch this kinda crap all day.

"How do I turn the radio on, and see a reptilian?" great question.

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David dIcke should have said in order to see the lizards you have to use DMT to be in the 4th dimension
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All I know is that 9 out of 10 ancient civilizations not only reported the existence of reptilian humanoids, but also interacted with them in THIS dimension, not in visions, not in other dimensions. North American natives, Mayans, Incas, Aztecs, Hindu, Chinese, Africans, Egyptians, Mesopotamians, you name it.

Archeologists have found ancient statues and artifacts clearly depicting some sort of reptile-like humanoids.

[link to imagenic.net]
[link to imagenic.net]

There are tons of statues and wall carvings in India and Cambodia, depicting ancient "snake goddesses". Tons of references to "dragon gods" in ancient Chinese literature,

[link to imagenic.net]
[link to imagenic.net]

I don't need David dIcke or anybody else to know that those ancient people actually SAW something, they saw those living beings in flesh and blood and I don't think they are "interdimensional creatures" that can't be seen in our dimension. They probably have some sort of high-advanced molecular capability to disguise into humans, or perhaps they have human avatar bodies and can switch their souls or whatever you wanna call, into non-reptile bodies.

When Willy and Tits McGee arrived in Singapore, the government saluted them with an "enter the dragon" ceremony.

But most people ignore these details...

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All I know is that 9 out of 10 ancient civilizations not only reported the existence of reptilian humanoids, but also interacted with them in THIS dimension, not in visions, not in other dimensions. North American natives, Mayans, Incas, Aztecs, Hindu, Chinese, Africans, Egyptians, Mesopotamians, you name it.

Archeologists have found ancient statues and artifacts clearly depicting some sort of reptile-like humanoids.

[link to imagenic.net]
[link to imagenic.net]

There are tons of statues and wall carvings in India and Cambodia, depicting ancient "snake goddesses". Tons of references to "dragon gods" in ancient Chinese literature,

[link to imagenic.net]
[link to imagenic.net]

I don't need David dIcke or anybody else to know that those ancient people actually SAW something, they saw those living beings in flesh and blood and I don't think they are "interdimensional creatures" that can't be seen in our dimension. They probably have some sort of high-advanced molecular capability to disguise into humans, or perhaps they have human avatar bodies and can switch their souls or whatever you wanna call, into non-reptile bodies.

When Willy and Tits McGee arrived in Singapore, the government saluted them with an "enter the dragon" ceremony.

But most people ignore these details...

[link to imageupper.com]
"Do or do not. There is no try." (Yoda)

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