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Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?

 
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Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
Worries over highly radioactive fish prompt study

Persistently high radioactivity in some fish caught close to the Fukushima nuclear plant has sparked a government investigation into the physiological basis for contamination and why radiation readings in some specimens remain hundreds of times over the official safe limit.

[...] The overall trend has been a decline in detected amounts of radioactive cesium.

However, in August, two greenlings caught 20 kilometers north of the Fukushima plant were found to have cesium levels of 25,800 becquerels per kilogram, the highest level ever measured in fish since the nuclear accident. The government standard for food is 100 becquerels per kilogram.

And in March, tests recorded a level of 18,700 becquerels per kilogram in freshwater salmon in the Niidagawa river near Iitate [...]

[...] cesium in freshwater salmon and char caught since March has not been decreasing, leading to restrictions on the shipment [...]

The forthcoming study will analyze cesium levels in the fish’s otolith, a part of the inner ear. The otolith is widely used in such research because it is an organ where trace elements tend to accumulate over the animal’s lifespan, leaving a growth record that can be likened to the rings of a tree. [...]

[link to ajw.asahi.com]

[link to enenews.com]
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
Could it be that the geology under Fukushima, which is volcanic and porous.. is saturated with contamination..?

And this contamination is seeping into the Pacific everywhere along the coast...

And possibly.. the 'official' sources of measurement are false...

AFAIK, the coast and 20 km around Fuku is still off-limits to independent researchers.
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
o Tuna migrate past Fukushima.
o Tuna concentrate heavy metals, like mercury in the food chain.
o Tuna will also concentrate radioactive isotopes of heavy elements like Cesium (Caesium).
o Why eat from the world's largest nuclear dump (the Pacific)?
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
o Tuna migrate past Fukushima.
o Tuna concentrate heavy metals, like mercury in the food chain.
o Tuna will also concentrate radioactive isotopes of heavy elements like Cesium (Caesium).
o Why eat from the world's largest nuclear dump (the Pacific)?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26344682


i just ate some tuna!!
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
Sitting on some Pre fuku..albacore cans...

even artic char..are radioactive? char are so beautiful
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
Could it be that the geology under Fukushima, which is volcanic and porous.. is saturated with contamination..?

And this contamination is seeping into the Pacific everywhere along the coast...

 Quoting: Waterbug


Very doubtful!

You know the Geology under the Daiichi Plant wink
and you know that this is not Vulcanic!

The highly contaminated Fish are "Greenlings".
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
Could it be that the geology under Fukushima, which is volcanic and porous.. is saturated with contamination..?

And this contamination is seeping into the Pacific everywhere along the coast...

 Quoting: Waterbug


Very doubtful!

You know the Geology under the Daiichi Plant wink
and you know that this is not Vulcanic!

The highly contaminated Fish are "Greenlings".
 Quoting: the mighty Atom


chuckle

The T1, T2 and T3 geological layers include tuff [volcanic rock]

The Geology of Fukushima
[link to fukushima.over-blog.fr]

[snip]

Good and bad news

The good news is that the radioactive water leaking from the plant will not be able to spread towards the Japanese inland and the Abukuma plateau due to the downward slope of the geological layers. The bad news is that there exists a fault which appears to be active right under the Fukushima Daiichi plant itself: this allows, and will continue to allow, radioactive pollution of aquifers over a depth of several hundreds of meters, as it runs through the different "waterproof" strata (4). This also means that the radionuclides will naturally be carried towards the sea by this underground water stream flowing through the permeable layers of sandstone. Sandstone is indeed the ideal rock for aquifers, as it is both permeable and fractured, providing easy movement of water. And finally, there is the problem of the type of rock on which the plant was built being rather "soft", meaning that an earthquake can only destabilize the buildings.



As early as March 31, 2011, Tepco announced that the groundwater was contaminated with radioactive iodine, according to an analysis of a sample taken at a depth of 15 meters under the first reactor (link). Today, if one or more coriums have sunk into the ground, this pollution has very likely been increasing. But Tepco no longer shares any information about the pollution of groundwater. Their only concern is to present a beautiful reassuring façade, which will never solve this disastrous pollution of soil and groundwater: underground contamination is irreparable, because there is no access to it.
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
China syndrome.
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
My question is.. A couple of the grocery stores I shop at carry a line called "Full Circle" it's supposed to lean more toward "organic" products.

If you buy unpackaged from the seafood counter how can you know where it's really coming from?

When I looked at the packaging on the tuna and cod.. it comes from China. shocked

Bottom line is if fish from the Atlantic is unavailable .. which is worse for you, fresh caught from who knows where or farm raised?

What is everyone out there eating?
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
My question is.. A couple of the grocery stores I shop at carry a line called "Full Circle" it's supposed to lean more toward "organic" products.

If you buy unpackaged from the seafood counter how can you know where it's really coming from?

When I looked at the packaging on the tuna and cod.. it comes from China. shocked

Bottom line is if fish from the Atlantic is unavailable .. which is worse for you, fresh caught from who knows where or farm raised?

What is everyone out there eating?
 Quoting: Angelic_Warrior


I don't worry about it, I just buy fresh food that looks good...but you could get a Geiger counter and check for radiation at the store when you shop if you want...might get some weird looks though...
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Re: Asahi: Gov’t worried about highly radioactive fish — Why are radiation readings still 100s of times over official safe limits?
Right after this whole thing went down you could see that in the water near he plant it was a very green almost neon looking color. It looked like it was being realesed under water through some type of piping. I observed this on google maps. You can no longer see it, and finding the plant on google maps has become increasingly more difficult, at least or me.
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