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The Veil

 
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"Pray for a name in the Book of Life, and that your eyes and ears are opened to the works of the Kingdom. Pray through the pure heart of Jesus that yours might be transformed as well. The pure of heart will see God as the scripture attest"

I did , and I have recieved my new name and White stone. The name of old, who we always were truly but have forgotten. I read from the book of life within me, for it was opened and I was blessed to be given a glimpse of it. Judgement comes from within us, and Christ comes as a thief in the night, when one leasts expects.
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That is so true about him being as a thief in the night. I know there are some who aren't waiting at the busstop. You are one of them. There is a big hint though for the rapture. WHEN THE BIG EARTHQUAKE TAKES PLACE WORLDWIDE WITH OTHER CALAMITIES AND THE WINDS STOP, LOOK OUT!!!! KJV biblegateway.com as follows: Revelation 6 12 I watched as he opened the sixth seal. There was a great earthquake. The sun turned black like sackcloth made of goat hair, the whole moon turned blood red, 13 and the stars in the sky fell to earth, as figs drop from a fig tree when shaken by a strong wind. 14 The heavens receded like a scroll being rolled up, and every mountain and island was removed from its place. 15 Then the kings of the earth, the princes, the generals, the rich, the mighty, and everyone else, both slave and free, hid in caves and among the rocks of the mountains. 16 They called to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us[f] from the face of him who sits on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb! 17 For the great day of their[g] wrath has come, and who can withstand it?”
Revelation After this I saw four angels standing at the four corners of the earth, holding back the four winds of the earth to prevent any wind from blowing on the land or on the sea or on any tree. 2 Then I saw another angel coming up from the east, having the seal of the living God. He called out in a loud voice to the four angels who had been given power to harm the land and the sea: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.” 4 Then I heard the number of those who were sealed: 144,000 from all the tribes of Israel.

5 From the tribe of Judah 12,000 were sealed,

from the tribe of Reuben 12,000,

from the tribe of Gad 12,000,

6 from the tribe of Asher 12,000,

from the tribe of Naphtali 12,000,

from the tribe of Manasseh 12,000,

7 from the tribe of Simeon 12,000,

from the tribe of Levi 12,000,

from the tribe of Issachar 12,000,

8 from the tribe of Zebulun 12,000,

from the tribe of Joseph 12,000,

from the tribe of Benjamin 12,000.

The Great Multitude in White Robes

9 After this I looked, and there before me was a great multitude that no one could count, from every nation, tribe, people and language, standing before the throne and before the Lamb. They were wearing white robes and were holding palm branches in their hands. 10 And they cried out in a loud voice:

“Salvation belongs to our God,
who sits on the throne,
and to the Lamb.”
11 All the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures. They fell down on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:

“Amen!
Praise and glory
and wisdom and thanks and honor
and power and strength
be to our God for ever and ever.
Amen!”
13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”

14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”

And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore,

“they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence.
16 ‘Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat down on them,’[a]
nor any scorching heat.
17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne
will be their shepherd;
‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’
‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’[c]”
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Jesus? He IS many great things but most of all the GOD of Love, and The only True Way to the light of the World's universal Christ consciousness that will ignite the hearts of mankind and usher in the Kingdom within the hearts of all .


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Matthew 5:17-19

King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

You have been warned, no excuses on Judgement day!
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I challenge you OP and any other Christian to dispute that.

Till Heaven and Earth pass away!!!
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Until Christ, every priest that entered within the veil to go into the Most Holy Place had a rope tied around them so that if they somehow displeased God, they would be able to pull the dead body out of the Most Holy Place. Entering within the veil was a very serious business.

The SDA church has long believed that not only was the veil torn in two, but that at that very moment, the sacrifice of the lamb was about to commence. At that very moment, the lamb escaped the knife in the confusion that followed the most horrible thing that could possibly happen to the Temple service. In that very moment, Jesus BECAME the veil and anyone trying to enter into the "Most Holy Place"...HAD to have Christ in the life or no rope around the waist would ever be able to drag their carcass back from hell.

A whole series of sermons could be written on this subject alone. The bottom line is: if you accept Christ into the life, you are "IN HIM" and thus, in the veil or "door" between heaven and earth. It is an incredible story that has at its very basic core, the immutable Law of God. Prior to entering within the veil, (in the Holy Place), there is no mention of the Law at all. What is located in the "Holy Place" is a double-crowned throne which Jesus ascended to after His "ascent". The Scriptures clearly show both Jesus and the Father leaving the Holy Place on the double throne and entering into the Most Holy where the Law is enshrined in the Ark of God's Testament. The entire angelic host was there to greet them and a great celebration began for the successful return of their "Commander".

Satam was, and is, fully aware of the function of the veil. It is a sad fact that most of the world (Christian and otherwise) do not place any faith nor believe in any saving grace in the Law of God. It takes FAITH to enter within the veil. This very faith is what Jesus questioned would even exist when He returned. It is precisely because the world has misunderstood the veil that Satan can stand before the veil (in the mind of course) and set up the "Abomination which makes Desolate". In other words, many believe that they are praying to Jesus without entering within the veil and, in fact, are praying to Satan who can pronounce blessing, breathe his unholy spirit upon them, even heal them--without their ever seeing that they are following Satan. This is why Jesus can say "I never knew you". They were able to cast out demons, heal people, and did many wonderful things in His name; but He never knew them. Many people just cannot relate to this and so will be in total shock when they find that they have been following the "abomination of desolation".

"Strive to enter within the veil." This sounds suspiciously like "works", but even this striving comes from Christ. He is preparing us to enter into the presence of God the Father. Anything less than the perfection that comes from Christ will destroy the petitioner. "Feeling" that you are accepted of God is not the same as "knowing". Feeling will never satisfy the demands of the Law. Even knowing can fall short. It takes all three to make a person whole. When we are perfectly comfortable working within the veil, we will never notice that all of heaven has emptied itself and is approaching us. In that very moment, we will be without an intercessor because by that time, the censer will have been thrown down and intercession done. God's people will go "from Glory, to Glory. For the space of "half an hour" (15 days in prophetic time) there will be silence in heaven. If you are not "prepared" by them, there is no future hope. No second chances. The only thing left is the blotting of names done at the end of the thousand years that we are gone and the Earth lies fallow. Even the very universe itself will be recreated with all evidence of blight gone. It is so close, I can feel it in my bones. My Savior comes and He will not tarry.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
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Until Christ, every priest that entered within the veil to go into the Most Holy Place had a rope tied around them so that if they somehow displeased God, they would be able to pull the dead body out of the Most Holy Place. Entering within the veil was a very serious business.

The SDA church has long believed that not only was the veil torn in two, but that at that very moment, the sacrifice of the lamb was about to commence. At that very moment, the lamb escaped the knife in the confusion that followed the most horrible thing that could possibly happen to the Temple service. In that very moment, Jesus BECAME the veil and anyone trying to enter into the "Most Holy Place"...HAD to have Christ in the life or no rope around the waist would ever be able to drag their carcass back from hell.

A whole series of sermons could be written on this subject alone. The bottom line is: if you accept Christ into the life, you are "IN HIM" and thus, in the veil or "door" between heaven and earth. It is an incredible story that has at its very basic core, the immutable Law of God. Prior to entering within the veil, (in the Holy Place), there is no mention of the Law at all. What is located in the "Holy Place" is a double-crowned throne which Jesus ascended to after His "ascent". The Scriptures clearly show both Jesus and the Father leaving the Holy Place on the double throne and entering into the Most Holy where the Law is enshrined in the Ark of God's Testament. The entire angelic host was there to greet them and a great celebration began for the successful return of their "Commander".

Satam was, and is, fully aware of the function of the veil. It is a sad fact that most of the world (Christian and otherwise) do not place any faith nor believe in any saving grace in the Law of God. It takes FAITH to enter within the veil. This very faith is what Jesus questioned would even exist when He returned. It is precisely because the world has misunderstood the veil that Satan can stand before the veil (in the mind of course) and set up the "Abomination which makes Desolate". In other words, many believe that they are praying to Jesus without entering within the veil and, in fact, are praying to Satan who can pronounce blessing, breathe his unholy spirit upon them, even heal them--without their ever seeing that they are following Satan. This is why Jesus can say "I never knew you". They were able to cast out demons, heal people, and did many wonderful things in His name; but He never knew them. Many people just cannot relate to this and so will be in total shock when they find that they have been following the "abomination of desolation".

"Strive to enter within the veil." This sounds suspiciously like "works", but even this striving comes from Christ. He is preparing us to enter into the presence of God the Father. Anything less than the perfection that comes from Christ will destroy the petitioner. "Feeling" that you are accepted of God is not the same as "knowing". Feeling will never satisfy the demands of the Law. Even knowing can fall short. It takes all three to make a person whole. When we are perfectly comfortable working within the veil, we will never notice that all of heaven has emptied itself and is approaching us. In that very moment, we will be without an intercessor because by that time, the censer will have been thrown down and intercession done. God's people will go "from Glory, to Glory. For the space of "half an hour" (15 days in prophetic time) there will be silence in heaven. If you are not "prepared" by them, there is no future hope. No second chances. The only thing left is the blotting of names done at the end of the thousand years that we are gone and the Earth lies fallow. Even the very universe itself will be recreated with all evidence of blight gone. It is so close, I can feel it in my bones. My Savior comes and He will not tarry.
 Quoting: Zerubbabel


This is why I was called this name, because of my faith and patience.
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i heard he isn't dead
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Hello Lisa, my good friend and sister in Christ! hi hugs

Thank you for posting this video and link!

It's been awhile since I've pondered about the significance of the veil. Such precious insight into the significance of the veil tearing in two, only reminds me and warms my heart to the wonder and love of our Great God!

The only way sinful man could ever approach a most holy God is by means of blood.

Christ-our Sacrificial Lamb-was wounded for OUR transgressions!

He offered Himself as "the ransom for many".

The day of His crucifixion, He SUFFERED--He suffered the wrath of God against the sinner.

AND IT WAS AN ACT OF LOVE!

HE VOLUNTARILY
laid down His Life for the redemption of mankind.

Greater love has no one than this, that someone lay down his life for his friends
. (JOHN 15:13)

Then, precisely at that moment when He cried out from the cross, "IT IS FINISHED!", THAT VEIL TORE IN TWO, FROM TOP TO BOTTOM!!

ONLY THE MIGHTY HAND OF GOD COULD TEAR THAT VEIL!


The customary mourning gesture of a devoted Jewish father, when standing at his son's deathbed, is to tear his outer garment.

When God heard the LOUD DEATH CRY of our DIVINE SUBSTITUTE--HIS ONLY SON-God was satisfied.

Because God reached down and tore the veil in two, the way is now open for all men to come boldly to the throne of grace through the atoning death of Christ.

All who have believed and are united with Christ, "have redemption through His blood” and forgiveness of their sins.

And what do I say to that?

:hj9:
 Quoting: KoFFee_


Great post Lisa hf!
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hfhf
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The Kingdom is growing. It is as a mustard seed, but shows great promise and will manifest because of the truth of the Holy Word. The rapture is but one event. If you look only at the cherry on the sundae, you have missed most of the dessert. For the awakened, it is here now. Listen to your heart. Pray for fulfillment of the Lord's Prayer and thank God for it in advance. Pray for a name in the Book of Life, and that your eyes and ears are opened to the works of the Kingdom. Pray through the pure heart of Jesus that yours might be transformed as well. The pure of heart will see God as the scripture attest.
 Quoting: Jesus Christ is the way


Love this song an forgot about it thankshfthanks Lisa as always



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hfhf
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
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2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Until Christ, every priest that entered within the veil to go into the Most Holy Place had a rope tied around them so that if they somehow displeased God, they would be able to pull the dead body out of the Most Holy Place. Entering within the veil was a very serious business.

The SDA church has long believed that not only was the veil torn in two, but that at that very moment, the sacrifice of the lamb was about to commence. At that very moment, the lamb escaped the knife in the confusion that followed the most horrible thing that could possibly happen to the Temple service. In that very moment, Jesus BECAME the veil and anyone trying to enter into the "Most Holy Place"...HAD to have Christ in the life or no rope around the waist would ever be able to drag their carcass back from hell.

A whole series of sermons could be written on this subject alone. The bottom line is: if you accept Christ into the life, you are "IN HIM" and thus, in the veil or "door" between heaven and earth. It is an incredible story that has at its very basic core, the immutable Law of God. Prior to entering within the veil, (in the Holy Place), there is no mention of the Law at all. What is located in the "Holy Place" is a double-crowned throne which Jesus ascended to after His "ascent". The Scriptures clearly show both Jesus and the Father leaving the Holy Place on the double throne and entering into the Most Holy where the Law is enshrined in the Ark of God's Testament. The entire angelic host was there to greet them and a great celebration began for the successful return of their "Commander".

Satam was, and is, fully aware of the function of the veil. It is a sad fact that most of the world (Christian and otherwise) do not place any faith nor believe in any saving grace in the Law of God. It takes FAITH to enter within the veil. This very faith is what Jesus questioned would even exist when He returned. It is precisely because the world has misunderstood the veil that Satan can stand before the veil (in the mind of course) and set up the "Abomination which makes Desolate". In other words, many believe that they are praying to Jesus without entering within the veil and, in fact, are praying to Satan who can pronounce blessing, breathe his unholy spirit upon them, even heal them--without their ever seeing that they are following Satan. This is why Jesus can say "I never knew you". They were able to cast out demons, heal people, and did many wonderful things in His name; but He never knew them. Many people just cannot relate to this and so will be in total shock when they find that they have been following the "abomination of desolation".

"Strive to enter within the veil." This sounds suspiciously like "works", but even this striving comes from Christ. He is preparing us to enter into the presence of God the Father. Anything less than the perfection that comes from Christ will destroy the petitioner. "Feeling" that you are accepted of God is not the same as "knowing". Feeling will never satisfy the demands of the Law. Even knowing can fall short. It takes all three to make a person whole. When we are perfectly comfortable working within the veil, we will never notice that all of heaven has emptied itself and is approaching us. In that very moment, we will be without an intercessor because by that time, the censer will have been thrown down and intercession done. God's people will go "from Glory, to Glory. For the space of "half an hour" (15 days in prophetic time) there will be silence in heaven. If you are not "prepared" by them, there is no future hope. No second chances. The only thing left is the blotting of names done at the end of the thousand years that we are gone and the Earth lies fallow. Even the very universe itself will be recreated with all evidence of blight gone. It is so close, I can feel it in my bones. My Savior comes and He will not tarry.
 Quoting: Zerubbabel


Very interesting post, thanks for sharing it. I didn't know about the rope being tied to the priests. Wow!

hf
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

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Petra
Enter In

Words by Bob Hartman
Based on Hebrews 10:19,20

Once a year for sacrifice just one priest could pay the price
And step inside the inner veil to make the people free
Temple stood the same for years till the Nazarene appears
Things will never be the same since 33 A.D.
When He spoke and bowed Hid head
He who saved the world was dead
Then the earth began to shake
Heaven's wall began to break
Opening the Holy Place
The temple veil is torn in two
The way is clear for me and you

(Chorus)
We can enter in, enter in
Into Heaven's Holy place
We can enter in, enter in
Boldly by His blood we can approach His throne of grace
We can enter in a new and living Way
By our faith He will receive us when we pray

Now without a second look we forget what all it took
To be seen as innocent by His Holy eyes
Never thinking foolishly there is something He won't see
For our lack of righteousness there is no disguise
He won't look the other Way
Someone's life will have to pay
Once for all it has been done
Taken out upon His Son
He remembers it no more
Now for us He is the Door
Opened up forevermore

We can enter in, enter in
We can enter in His gates with thankfulness and praise
Into the once forbidden Holy place
We can live in goodness and in mercy all our days
We can enter in a new and living Way
By our faith He will receive us when we pray
We don't have to be afraid to seek His face
We can enter in


Regards,
Sun
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...ooh not that oh we blasted it away and nobody may know.

Ooh
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Hi Lisa..can you post that pic you have of Christ viewed in profile? thank you
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:bcp:
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That looks like a side view of Elvis with a beard! I don't think Christ Jesus, looked anything like the pictures.
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Thanks for the great discussion and post Lisa! Enjoyed hearing Neil Diamond's song as well, I haven't heard that in many years and didn't realize it's significance until you explained it GfG.


hf
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Hey Lisa, how are you? So now that you have multiple failed predictions, do you think this one would be the lucky hit?

hf
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Thanks for the great discussion and post Lisa! Enjoyed hearing Neil Diamond's song as well, I haven't heard that in many years and didn't realize it's significance until you explained it GfG.


hf
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Glad you enjoyed it!

hf
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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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Hey Lisa, how are you? So now that you have multiple failed predictions, do you think this one would be the lucky hit?

hf
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I'm great, thanks for asking.

I don't make "predictions" as I"m not a psychic, and this post isn't a "prediction" either. It's a discussion about the veil in the temple.
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
____________________________

A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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I remember a prophecy about the veil in the temple being torn and most everyone reading this believes in prophecy, God speaks through His prophets.

Some Christians will deny these words until the Great Warning happens. Jesus Mercy on those who deny these words AFTER the Great Warning. Our pride. Our Lord says in the messages, He's going out after his Protestant sheep specially. Remember, only God can show you every moment
of your life (NDE like).

We all agree on one thing now, Our Lord's desire is that we all believe the same, the Orthodox, Protestants, Roman Catholics and non-Christians who choose to convert.

God bless, rose rose rose

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November 6, 2007

God Speaks Will You Listen.

...My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does NOT partake of my Eucharist remains a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the anti-christ will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anti-christ. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an anti-pope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide with the mass taking place underground. These conditions will be similar to the early persecutions by the Romans. The Roman persecutions were a foreshadowing of the persecution and time of the antichrist. Remember all this will be allowed and take place according to the will of my Father in heaven. Scripture must and will be fulfilled.I am warning you again my son and any who will take heed to my warnings. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A final warning to those who read these words. Do not wait until the warning to prepare your soul.

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I remember a prophecy about the veil in the temple being torn and most everyone reading this believes in prophecy, God speaks through His prophets.

Some Christians will deny these words until the Great Warning happens. Jesus Mercy on those who deny these words AFTER the Great Warning. Our pride. Our Lord says in the messages, He's going out after his Protestant sheep specially. Remember, only God can show you every moment
of your life (NDE like).

We all agree on one thing now, Our Lord's desire is that we all believe the same, the Orthodox, Protestants, Roman Catholics and non-Christians who choose to convert.

God bless, rose rose rose

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November 6, 2007

God Speaks Will You Listen.

...My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does NOT partake of my Eucharist remains a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the anti-christ will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anti-christ. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an anti-pope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide with the mass taking place underground. These conditions will be similar to the early persecutions by the Romans. The Roman persecutions were a foreshadowing of the persecution and time of the antichrist. Remember all this will be allowed and take place according to the will of my Father in heaven. Scripture must and will be fulfilled.I am warning you again my son and any who will take heed to my warnings. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A final warning to those who read these words. Do not wait until the warning to prepare your soul.

[link to godspeakswillyoulisten.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


No Mary, the temple of God is not the roman catholic church, this is blasphemy.

The temple of God is inside us now. That's what the bible says.

John 2:21 "But the temple he had spoken of was his body."

1 Corinthians 6:19 "Don't you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God?"

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 "Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple."
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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Matthew 5:17-19

King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

You have been warned, no excuses on Judgement day!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27662715


I challenge you OP and any other Christian to dispute that.

Till Heaven and Earth pass away!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27662715


Didn't think so. These very words will testify against you.
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I remember a prophecy about the veil in the temple being torn and most everyone reading this believes in prophecy, God speaks through His prophets.

Some Christians will deny these words until the Great Warning happens. Jesus Mercy on those who deny these words AFTER the Great Warning. Our pride. Our Lord says in the messages, He's going out after his Protestant sheep specially. Remember, only God can show you every moment
of your life (NDE like).

We all agree on one thing now, Our Lord's desire is that we all believe the same, the Orthodox, Protestants, Roman Catholics and non-Christians who choose to convert.

God bless, rose rose rose

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November 6, 2007

God Speaks Will You Listen.

...My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does NOT partake of my Eucharist remains a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the anti-christ will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anti-christ. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an anti-pope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide with the mass taking place underground. These conditions will be similar to the early persecutions by the Romans. The Roman persecutions were a foreshadowing of the persecution and time of the antichrist. Remember all this will be allowed and take place according to the will of my Father in heaven. Scripture must and will be fulfilled.I am warning you again my son and any who will take heed to my warnings. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A final warning to those who read these words. Do not wait until the warning to prepare your soul.

[link to godspeakswillyoulisten.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


No Mary, the temple of God is not the roman catholic church, this is blasphemy.

The temple of God is inside us now. That's what the bible says.

John 2:21 "But the temple he had spoken of was his body."

1 Corinthians 6:19 "Don't you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God?"

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 "Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Correct. By the way, the bride will not have the name Roman either.
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Matthew 5:17-19

King James Version (KJV)

17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.

18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Matthew 7:21-23


21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. 22 Many will say to Me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name?’ 23 And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!’

You have been warned, no excuses on Judgement day!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27662715


I challenge you OP and any other Christian to dispute that.

Till Heaven and Earth pass away!!!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27662715


Didn't think so. These very words will testify against you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27662715

The two primary objectives of Christ were to fulfill the law and end sacrifice. What is there to argue here?
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Everyone that is of the Truth, hears His voice.

They will not follow hired men.

Read John chapter 10
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Those who had seen beyond the veil, were affected by it until their dying days. They had regularly witnessed amazing miracles of sound, light and beings who defied description except in terms of "simultudes". After the occupation of the Holy Land by the invading Romans, the murder of all the "high priests" who stood helplessly while the temple was ransacked and burned to the ground for its gold plating, and the reinstatement of a false religious worship in the place of the true; the ones who escaped the carnage that followed went into the desert. There, they did everything they possibly could to reproduce the scenes they had witnessed beyond the veil.

Their descriptions of incredible light, ringing arches, vibrating posts, a mixture of instrumental sounds, music from the heavenly spheres...and singing from voices that reach into the very essence of being--by beings of incredibly complex light patterns--milling around the throne of God and performing acts pertinent to our wellbeing. They made minute documentation of what they saw and hoped to reproduce by their rigorous duty to what they believed God required of them. They wrote it all down in scrolls and placed them in the caves of Qumran. The transliteration of these documents by renowned scholars has, of course, conspiculously gone from availability on the net. It thrilled me to read it fresh off the pages of translation. It saddened me to see it disappear from the web and only the mundane left behind. I hope it is all still there somewhere. We need all the hope we can get. Many hearts are going cold "because of the iniquity that abounds on the earth". The fact that there are heavenly beings who "daily" (continually) attend to the human condition and seek only its good, should arouse us all to higher purpose.
The TRUTH is stranger than FICTION.
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Interesting that you mentioned the caves of Qumran. When I recieved my new name, I was in spirit, and taken to a cave where I also was given a white stone engaved by God's own hand, just like Moses witnessed.
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I remember a prophecy about the veil in the temple being torn and most everyone reading this believes in prophecy, God speaks through His prophets.

Some Christians will deny these words until the Great Warning happens. Jesus Mercy on those who deny these words AFTER the Great Warning. Our pride. Our Lord says in the messages, He's going out after his Protestant sheep specially. Remember, only God can show you every moment
of your life (NDE like).

We all agree on one thing now, Our Lord's desire is that we all believe the same, the Orthodox, Protestants, Roman Catholics and non-Christians who choose to convert.

God bless, rose rose rose

+ + +

November 6, 2007

God Speaks Will You Listen.

...My son, at baptism all my children receive sanctifying grace, but many do not progress beyond spiritual infancy. I will not lose any the Father has given to me. My spiritual babies will come home to be with me to prevent the loss of their souls. A soul who does NOT partake of my Eucharist remains a spiritual baby. Just as a human baby must eat solid food to grow to adulthood, so spiritually you must receive my graces through the sacraments to mature to spiritual adulthood. The body must be fed to grow. Likewise, the soul must be fed to grow and mature. Satan knows this truth. This is why he has deceived many of my people with false interpretations of my scriptures. Many teach the physical nation of Israel is the fulfillment of my scripture. Many teach the anti-christ will resume the Jewish sacrifice in a rebuilt temple in Jerusalem to constitute the abomination of desolation. This is a false teaching, not from God, but from human understanding. My son, in the book of Daniel, the persecution by the Jews under Antiochus can be considered a partial fulfillment of the abomination of desolation. But the complete fulfillment has not yet taken place. At my death, the veil in the temple was rent in two and the old sacrificial covenant was replaced by my new covenant. My sacrifice on the cross was the final sacrifice for my peoples’ sin. I am the fulfillment of the promise to Abraham. I am the seed of Abraham, the son of David, in whom all the nations of the earth are blessed. My nation of Israel is my church, not the modern nation of Israel. My people are now all those who become part of my church through sanctifying grace. The complete fulfillment of the prophecy from Daniel of the abomination of desolation will occur: when the continual sacrifice of the mass is abolished by the false prophet and the anti-christ. Acceptance of the protestant doctrine of the mass by an anti-pope will be the fulfillment of the prophecy. The temple of God is my Holy Roman Catholic Church. My faithful remnant will be persecuted worldwide with the mass taking place underground. These conditions will be similar to the early persecutions by the Romans. The Roman persecutions were a foreshadowing of the persecution and time of the antichrist. Remember all this will be allowed and take place according to the will of my Father in heaven. Scripture must and will be fulfilled.I am warning you again my son and any who will take heed to my warnings. He who has ears to hear let him hear. A final warning to those who read these words. Do not wait until the warning to prepare your soul.

[link to godspeakswillyoulisten.org]
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


No Mary, the temple of God is not the roman catholic church, this is blasphemy.

The temple of God is inside us now. That's what the bible says.

John 2:21 "But the temple he had spoken of was his body."

1 Corinthians 6:19 "Don't you realize that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, who lives in you and was given to you by God?"

1 Corinthians 3:16-17 "Do you not know that you are God's temple and that God's Spirit dwells in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple."
 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa


Hi Lisa,

Yes, we personally are the temple of God when we have
His presence in us. Water Baptism first, a requirement to remove Original Sin. You can lose God's presence in your soul committing just one mortal sin. God cannot be where sins is and why repentance and confession are God's plan to restore His presence in your soul. Read John 20:23, Our Lord established the Sacrament of Confession. God's sanctifying grace is His presence in us. Non-Catholic Christians must confess with true repentance their mortal sins to God in prayer. You all call it your "prayer closets?"

Jesus spoke of the temple in the message above to show, we are in the New Covenant, He established His Church (singular), there is no rebuilding of the temple as some believe is going to happen.

2013 could be the year of the "awakening" so just hang on,
you will believe when Our Lord shows you Himself.

p.s. Did I read a reply of yours right (Christian Brainstorming thread)? You didn't vote, if that is so, way
to go~!@! applause I left the Presidential box empty but voted for pro-life candidates in my state and city. There was no choice, both BHO and Romney legislated for abortion and sodomy. Abominations to God.
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Those who had seen beyond the veil, were affected by it until their dying days. They had regularly witnessed amazing miracles of sound, light and beings who defied description except in terms of "simultudes". After the occupation of the Holy Land by the invading Romans, the murder of all the "high priests" who stood helplessly while the temple was ransacked and burned to the ground for its gold plating, and the reinstatement of a false religious worship in the place of the true; the ones who escaped the carnage that followed went into the desert. There, they did everything they possibly could to reproduce the scenes they had witnessed beyond the veil.

Their descriptions of incredible light, ringing arches, vibrating posts, a mixture of instrumental sounds, music from the heavenly spheres...and singing from voices that reach into the very essence of being--by beings of incredibly complex light patterns--milling around the throne of God and performing acts pertinent to our wellbeing. They made minute documentation of what they saw and hoped to reproduce by their rigorous duty to what they believed God required of them. They wrote it all down in scrolls and placed them in the caves of Qumran. The transliteration of these documents by renowned scholars has, of course, conspiculously gone from availability on the net. It thrilled me to read it fresh off the pages of translation. It saddened me to see it disappear from the web and only the mundane left behind. I hope it is all still there somewhere. We need all the hope we can get. Many hearts are going cold "because of the iniquity that abounds on the earth". The fact that there are heavenly beings who "daily" (continually) attend to the human condition and seek only its good, should arouse us all to higher purpose.
 Quoting: Zerubbabel


I'd like to read that too. Where did you get a copy? What is the name of the scroll?
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

_________________________

One of the greatest things you can do for God is to show love to His other kids.
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p.s. Did I read a reply of yours right (Christian Brainstorming thread)? You didn't vote, if that is so, way
to go~!@! applause I left the Presidential box empty but voted for pro-life candidates in my state and city. There was no choice, both BHO and Romney legislated for abortion and sodomy. Abominations to God.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 20541213


Good for you Mary, I don't vote either, never have and never will. This is satan's kingdom and I don't want to have a part in his drama.

hf
Have You Accepted Jesus As Your Savior Yet? What Are You Waiting For?

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"Tell them, I love them" - Jesus Christ

"If love were a tree, compassion would be its fruit." - unknown
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A dear friend's website [link to www.savemenowjesus.com]

_____________________________

Do you have questions about God or need a friend to talk to? Email me at LisaLovesJesus7@gmail.com
___________________________

2 Corinthians 12:9 - "Each time he said, "My grace is all you need. My power works best in weakness." So now I am glad to boast about my weaknesses, so that the power of Christ can work through me."

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Everyone that is of the Truth, hears His voice.

They will not follow hired men.

Read John chapter 10
 Quoting: Faithful and Truth 25567776


John 16:12 I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now.

These are the endtimes or the new beginning depending on the perspective and which side of judgment you are standing. Pray to bear the truth now and that Christ says these things to you. It makes you ready for the next passages.

John 4:23-24 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Psalms 145:18 The Lord is near to all who call on him, to all who call on him in truth.
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Matthew 27:50-51 " And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit. At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom."

 Quoting: Lisa*Lisa



That is a misquote. It should read renched. Renching is the jewish pratice of tearing at one's close upon the dead of a loved one. It isn't as revealing, but causes holes in the frabric.

Thus the Veil between here and there has holes.

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