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Doctors office has cut me off because I declined an appt with a female doctor and instead asked for a male doc.

 
Debauchery (OP)

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Your child is a male?
 Quoting: el3ktra


Yes.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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There are more women than men who are interested in medical careers, as a result in the future you'll find vastly more numbers of female doctors...

I can understand the conflict that you might have with a doctor who might not fully understand the male physiology but there is a shortage of male doctors.

I don't really respect these kinds of office doctors because they tow the official medical line of thought or aren't bothered to explore alternative options/causes.

You probably will have to be your own doctor for your son.

I can't even find a doctor- I'm praying I have at least another 20 years without anything going wrong because of the extremely poor medical standards in this country, but you can find equally poor standards in the United States, especially for those in the low tier economic class.
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They shouldn't care if you have a preference, you are paying them, not the other way around. It's silly that they would get so sensitive and bent out of shape over such a simple request.
 Quoting: geminilion


I wasn't rude about it either. It was the receptionist that got in a tizzy.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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OP needs to grow up and quit being a ME ME ME,I want,I demand type of person......That attitude will get you nowhere!
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When you find a new male doc I just hope he isn't the type that pushes his penis against your leg when he examines you, or your kid... yak
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OP needs to grow up and quit being a ME ME ME,I want,I demand type of person......That attitude will get you nowhere!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27665171


Are you kidding me?

Me, me, me?

Here in America we're allowed and even encouraged to choose a doctor we're comfortable..you know considering we pay a shit load of money on treatment.

What the fuck is wrong with you and the other nazi's on this site that think it's ok to force a particular doctor on a patient?

What..no more jokes about molesting kids, OP?
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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OP needs to grow up and quit being a ME ME ME,I want,I demand type of person......That attitude will get you nowhere!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27665171


Oh, FFS, it's not like she is asking for a cherry lollipop when the Dr. hands her kid a grape lollipop.

Medical care is a service that she is paying for, and there is no reason she shouldn't have a say in who treats her child.
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When you find a new male doc I just hope he isn't the type that pushes his penis against your leg when he examines you, or your kid... yak
 Quoting: BRIEF


I watch everyone that's around my kid. :)

It's not gonna happen.

For now I'm taking him to see the doctor that's been treating me for years. He's excellent.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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OP needs to grow up and quit being a ME ME ME,I want,I demand type of person......That attitude will get you nowhere!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27665171


Oh, FFS, it's not like she is asking for a cherry lollipop when the Dr. hands her kid a grape lollipop.

Medical care is a service that she is paying for, and there is no reason she shouldn't have a say in who treats her child.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


I know, right?

It just goes to show you the mindset of people in general.

You're gonna pay for this and you're gonna like it. What you want doesn't matter. Who cares if your child feels secure or comfortable. Who cares if you feel comfortable.

Bend over, bitch. Then pay me $100-$200 for my shitty bedside manner and nonchalant attitude.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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You are now going to "take him to the doctor that you have been seeing for years because he is excellent???? Why in the fuck didn't you do that in the first place????? Now I know why we are in the mess we're in!
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Each to their own.

I personally love my FEMALE physician.

She is much more attentive and listens much better than the male doctors I have seen.

Your loss op.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 628775


Listen, I've seen 2 female doctors at that practice, I didn't care for those two in particular. I wanted a change. It's not horrible, it's not mean or cruel.

I had a female pediatrician that I loved years ago, she took care of my daughter when she was young. She had children of her own and cut her hours back, eventually quitting all together. Since then I haven't found a female doc that was as good as her so I stick to the men.

I don't rule out female MD's in general, it's just these particular docs I have an issue with.
 Quoting: Debauchery


I hear you, I fired a female doc for her lousy bedside manner just before finding the one I have now.

Fortunately, I have the freedom to go to whomever I wish within our system.
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If you come at the people in the doctor's office the same way you post on GLP, I would be willing to bet your preference for a male doctor has very little to do with why they have rejected you. They are probably just tired of dealing with you. I bet you find something to complain about every time you go there.

As you say, there are tons of doctors out there. Why don't you do yourself and the doctor's office a favor, and pick a new one?
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OP needs to grow up and quit being a ME ME ME,I want,I demand type of person......That attitude will get you nowhere!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27665171


Oh, FFS, it's not like she is asking for a cherry lollipop when the Dr. hands her kid a grape lollipop.

Medical care is a service that she is paying for, and there is no reason she shouldn't have a say in who treats her child.
 Quoting: Sleeping Giant


I know, right?

It just goes to show you the mindset of people in general.

You're gonna pay for this and you're gonna like it. What you want doesn't matter. Who cares if your child feels secure or comfortable. Who cares if you feel comfortable.

Bend over, bitch. Then pay me $100-$200 for my shitty bedside manner and nonchalant attitude.
 Quoting: Debauchery


It's obvious who does not pay for their own heath care in this thread.
The hour has already come for you to wake up from your slumber, because our salvation is nearer now than when we first believed. Romans 13:11

And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved. Matthew 10:22

Wake up, oh sleeper, and rise from the dead, and Christ will shine on you
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You are now going to "take him to the doctor that you have been seeing for years because he is excellent???? Why in the fuck didn't you do that in the first place????? Now I know why we are in the mess we're in!
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I like to take my kids to a pediatrician..you know, a doc that specializes in children.

My doctor is not a pediatrician and he's usually booked full, it's hard for me to get into see him at times.

My son had a doctor that we both liked but he moved his practice. I wasn't able to get a recommendation before he left so I asked my son's teacher if she knew a good place to take him and I started visiting the office I've been blacklisted from.

My kids don't visit the doctor often. I try to take care of them at home if they have a cold or flu..anything that seems minor.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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After DEC 21,2012 you won't have to worry about this issue anymore.....
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If you come at the people in the doctor's office the same way you post on GLP, I would be willing to bet your preference for a male doctor has very little to do with why they have rejected you. They are probably just tired of dealing with you. I bet you find something to complain about every time you go there.

As you say, there are tons of doctors out there. Why don't you do yourself and the doctor's office a favor, and pick a new one?
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Yes, I argue about politicians and religion with the people at his doctors office because it's just like GLP there. I call them several times a week just to debate/argue and name call. I do that with everyone that treats me and my children because I like pissing off the people that can fuck with our health & well being.

Are you that stupid?

I politely asked to have him scheduled to see a male doctor. I told her that my son didn't take to the last two female doctors he had. It was that simple.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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Try complaining when you can't find any doctor.
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What is a doctor?
Debauchery (OP)

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Aren't you the least bit concerned about having a grown man examining your sons anus and looking down his throat???? GO WITH THE WOMAN DOCTOR!
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What is it with you and sexual deviancy involving kids?

He's got a horrible cough and a fever. I don't think they're going to want to check his anus.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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I make sure that all my male doctors are atleast 6ft tall and have good bone structure. My doctors must look good. They must also have soft hands and skin.

... and that is all im gonna say about that.
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Ridiculous. You are the customer!

I hope you have informed the male doctor at that office of how the receptionist treated you.

Now since this is a conspiracy theory site----is anyone wondering if perhaps that receptionist is getting a $ kickback from one of the female doctors for steering patients to her?
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I make sure that all my male doctors are atleast 6ft tall and have good bone structure. My doctors must look good. They must also have soft hands and skin.

... and that is all im gonna say about that.
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I make sure my doctor is attentive and caring.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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You would be surprised how quickly blacklisting of patients within the medical community happens, and how widespread it is.
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I almost died.

I ordered the stuff online.

I lived.

They were watching me die.
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Holy crap. imagine beeing forced to see a male doctor when you have a problem with your dick. how embarrassing. Female doctors cannot be trusted in such situations.
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Nope. They always play mind games.
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They probably DON'T have any opening with a male Doctor for a month.
Because everyone else hates the female doctor as well and has asked to see the male.
This is probably not a gender issue more likely she is just a crappy Doctor they do exist.
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You would be surprised how quickly blacklisting of patients within the medical community happens, and how widespread it is.
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I almost died.

I ordered the stuff online.

I lived.

They were watching me die.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 25601325


spock
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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If you come at the people in the doctor's office the same way you post on GLP, I would be willing to bet your preference for a male doctor has very little to do with why they have rejected you. They are probably just tired of dealing with you. I bet you find something to complain about every time you go there.

As you say, there are tons of doctors out there. Why don't you do yourself and the doctor's office a favor, and pick a new one?
 Quoting: Meggarea


Yes, I argue about politicians and religion with the people at his doctors office because it's just like GLP there. I call them several times a week just to debate/argue and name call. I do that with everyone that treats me and my children because I like pissing off the people that can fuck with our health & well being.

Are you that stupid?

I politely asked to have him scheduled to see a male doctor. I told her that my son didn't take to the last two female doctors he had. It was that simple.
 Quoting: Debauchery


I am only going by this thread, Mr. Angry Pants. If you asked the receptionist if she was "that stupid", I wouldn't be surprised if you never got to see a male doctor at that location.
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If you come at the people in the doctor's office the same way you post on GLP, I would be willing to bet your preference for a male doctor has very little to do with why they have rejected you. They are probably just tired of dealing with you. I bet you find something to complain about every time you go there.

As you say, there are tons of doctors out there. Why don't you do yourself and the doctor's office a favor, and pick a new one?
 Quoting: Meggarea


Yes, I argue about politicians and religion with the people at his doctors office because it's just like GLP there. I call them several times a week just to debate/argue and name call. I do that with everyone that treats me and my children because I like pissing off the people that can fuck with our health & well being.

Are you that stupid?

I politely asked to have him scheduled to see a male doctor. I told her that my son didn't take to the last two female doctors he had. It was that simple.
 Quoting: Debauchery


I am only going by this thread, Mr. Angry Pants. If you asked the receptionist if she was "that stupid", I wouldn't be surprised if you never got to see a male doctor at that location.
 Quoting: Meggarea


Of course I didn't ask her if she was stupid.

I was very polite. I always am when I call my doctor.

I mean they can either make my kids feel better or let them leave feeling like crap. I wouldn't harass them. Not a smart thing to do.

I'm a Miss Angry Pants, not a Mr.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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OP,I'm not obsessed with the shit....All I'm trying to point out is the fact that you WANT to take your son to a strange new "Doctor" who has a job where he gets to poke and prod naked kids all day.What NORMAL guy wants a job like that? I bet a million dollars that the Boy Scout Masters and the Priests would LOVE to have a gig like that and if the guy is a fucking pervert don't feed his fantasies!Get a Woman doctor!
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So you're saying ALL male doctors are pedo?

What about female doctors that see female patients?

Let me tell you again..my child has a cough. They aren't going to strip him naked, poke and prod him while he's naked or doing anything to him that would involve nudity. WTF, what gives you the idea that going to the doctor means you have to get naked? I've taken my daughter many times, she's NEVER had to get naked for anyone.

You ARE obsessed. It's all you've posted about on this thread, even making a joke about Sandusky.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.
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So I called my docs office this morning, asked for an appt for my child. They had an opening tomorrow but it was with one of their female doctors. Well I wasn't interested so I told them as much, politely of course, and I asked to see a male doctor instead.

Wouldn't you know it..they mysteriously and suddenly have ZERO openings, for a month, to see a male doctor. I was rejected. wtf

What the fuck is going on with people these days?!!? I thought it was my right to choose a doctor I was comfortable with.
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REALLY are you serious?? It couldn't be because everybody wants the male doctors and not the female? Naw that can't be it! Could it be it's flu season and there are tons of people (children) wanting to see the doctor? Naw that can't be it!

Yep you're correct OP it has to be because you wanted a male doctor and they're discriminating against you! Perfectly logical yep that's it they're discriminating against you MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUE!!!! Yea that's it you can get rich!!!


GET A CLUE OP you and your brat aren't the only ones on the planet!!!
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So I called my docs office this morning, asked for an appt for my child. They had an opening tomorrow but it was with one of their female doctors. Well I wasn't interested so I told them as much, politely of course, and I asked to see a male doctor instead.

Wouldn't you know it..they mysteriously and suddenly have ZERO openings, for a month, to see a male doctor. I was rejected. wtf

What the fuck is going on with people these days?!!? I thought it was my right to choose a doctor I was comfortable with.
 Quoting: Debauchery






REALLY are you serious?? It couldn't be because everybody wants the male doctors and not the female? Naw that can't be it! Could it be it's flu season and there are tons of people (children) wanting to see the doctor? Naw that can't be it!

Yep you're correct OP it has to be because you wanted a male doctor and they're discriminating against you! Perfectly logical yep that's it they're discriminating against you MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUE!!!! Yea that's it you can get rich!!!


GET A CLUE OP you and your brat aren't the only ones on the planet!!!
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Yeah, I just assumed.

No, I had my sister call and get an appt with a male doc the second I got off the phone, then I had my mom call and get an appt as well. Funny they couldn't schedule me in with a male doc but they could two other people in a matter of minutes.

The receptionist got pissy with me. I didn't just assume, as I said, that they were messing with me. She made it clear she wasn't at all happy at my request.
And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it." Amen.

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