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Nope. Almost. You need a Bachelors (or at least satisfy all the pre-Med requirements of extensive Biology, Chemistry, Organic Chemistry, Physics, Calculus. That takes four years.
Then you take the MCAT and pass it.
Med school is at the Graduate level, not college level (that's undergraduate work).
Then you apply for medical school with both recs from your Science and non-Science courses. Usually at least four. Many science professors actually think of themselves as gatekeepers to eliminate students here. Hard to believe, but true nonetheless.
Then the long weed out process, interviews, acceptance, and huge loans. Usually $250,000-500,000. The reason this is so expensive is that many students need money for housing for their spouses and children because it takes soooooo lonnnng. Then many end up going out of state, and hence the tuition costs are DOUBLE. That's right, you pay double!
We can't accomodate all of the people who are qualified. So many end up doing something else.
Then you do two years of Basic Sciences. Then two years of Clinical Medicine. This is the four years of medicinal school.
Then at least three years of Residency to get into Family Practice, Pediatrics, Psychiatry, Dermatology. Then many specialize and do three more years. Three to Seven years of Residency.
So from college to finishing, but not including fellowships, for they can add 2-5 years, then 4+4+3 or 11 years minimum.
If the USA doesn't wake up, and continously puts people in the pipeline, then it won't equal the attrition from physicians leaving due to illness, retirement, going into research, changing careers, going into business, etc.
Quoting: Don'tBeAfraid Thanks, I was generalizing. But, I'm sure there are plenty of students in college right now that have the pre-reqs and can't get in. The admission into med school is where the roadblock is. Maybe I should say 5 years. Accept more into med school, 4 years of med and 1 year residency into general medicine. Your 3 years of residency is misleading, as most of your residency is practically paid training. Of course, standards are different everywhere. Wrong. While residents are paid, it's $50,000 for up to 120+ hours. So it ends up being very very low pay per hour. There is no 1 year of residency. The only two year residency I know of is some few Dermatology residencies, most are three. Everything I posted is based upon the USA model. It can be quite different elsewhere. [ link to healthcareers.about.com] " How Long does Medical Residency Training Last? Medical residency is a minimum of three years for primary care physicians and some other specialties, up to five years for some surgical specialties. (Some medical specialties require additional years of fellowship training in addition to the three to five years of residency training.) Do Residents Get Paid, and If So, How Much? During residency training, residents are usually paid about $40,000 to $50,000 per year to help pay the bills. They are paid a minimal salary because medical residents are not fully licensed to practice medicine, and therefore residents do not independently bring in any revenue for a medical facility. Instead, residents are physicians in training, working only under the supervision of an attending physician, who is ultimately responsible for the patients being treated by the medical residents." Wow you are argumentative. 50k per year is still paid and its not poverty level. You can moonlight in ER's if you want to also and make $100 an hour. Is it a lot of education requirements? Yes. Is it impossible? No. Do you need to do a year long general surgery rotation to be a pediatric specialty? Debatable.You know the details and I'm not arguing it anymore. The biggest hurdle is getting in. If you don't know someone, or have perfect grades and MCAT, you don't get in. They only accept so many so that we are herded like sheep through the offices and they can obtain maximum profit. My point is that is, you posted a lot of misleading information. I think we both can agree that the process is so long, and we're not keeping up, but falling behind at a time when we're adding tens of millions of new patients. Something has to give. People expecting personalized treatment is not realistic. If you moonlight, then you're not studying. If you've got time to moonlight, then you're not working those incredible number hours and extremely lucky, and usually people who moonlight are a rare breed in their last year of residency, and a risk to the medical staff because they're not licensed and must be watched over carefully. People should know that a med student doesn't have much a choice about clincal rotations as they are set by the med school, so you're point about peds doing a surgical rotation is moot, for it's required! There's no med school that I know of where a med student in clinicals could avoid doing a surgical rotations. Your facts are way off there Hoss. First it's four year, but I prove it's not. It's 11 minimum. The biggest problem is a lack of med schools. It's that simple. If we doubled the number of med schools, back a decade ago, we'd probably be fine. Now, it's too late, and we have a ton of very sick overweight people (Baby Boomers) who are needing care. The system will collapse. People will have to delay surgeries. As soon as you start making money, you can't defer much, but must start paying all of those loans back. So if you're making your 40-50K, then a ton of it is going out. It's why a lot of med students who have spouses are really only making it because their spouses are busting their ass to pay off the loans. It puts enormous stress on the marriages and so with everything else, the divorce rate is much higher. There's a cost to becoming a doc. It not like it used to be, and people griping about "I wanna female doc, or I want a male doc." quite frankly is silly. If you feel that way, then pick another team of docs because most of them have to switch it up. Here's a realistic explanation of moonlighting from a medical source and dealing with the issues of only being able to work a set number of hours as well as it happening in the last year of residency. [ link to www.acpinternist.org]
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