More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.

People are so stupid! No matter who won the election we are screwed.. the bankers and wall street own congress and thus us. Dont secede- change things..

posters keep saying 350K is only but a fringe
however what they don't tell you is that
only 200K took Normandy back from Hitler.

350K is enough to take back a country.

what the fvck are you waiting for ??
an invitation ??

It proves that during the Revolutionary war only 3 percent actually had the man and womenhood to stand up for their cause, while the rest either sided with the enemy or remained on the sidelines siding with the winner. In this castrated society 1 percent is not a bad showing.

You have a point it does prove nothing as far as real change, but it lets us know that people are ready to take drastic measures.

No, you are so stupid.
People have been trying change for over 150 yrs
and has done nothing.

elections don't change things.
we the people do.

I didnt say eletions change things but seceding isnt the answer either..

You're not very good at math are you?

I would be very careful at signing any of these.

This gives a big list of political dissidents for when they come to round you up for the FEMA camps.

It is best to lay low for now so you can fight another day.

Could it be . . . 1/10 of 1%? Why, I believe it is!!

Back to you, arithmetic whiz.

Let's see . . . 10% (.10) of 320,000,000 = 32,000,000
1% (.01) of 320,000,00 = 3,200,000

(.001) of 320,000,000 = 320,000

What could it be, what could it be that comes next? We have 1/10th, 1/100th, so . . . 1/1000th comes next. And what is 1/1000th?

Could it be . . . 1/10 of 1%? Why, I believe it is!!

Back to you, arithmetic whiz.

I personally would be afraid to put my name on any of these petitions. You are basically giving them your name and where you live and shouting "hey, I am an enemy of the Federal Government." When they start rounding people up, who do you think they will come for first???

350,000 is something around 1/10 of 1% of the population of the U.S.

In other words, who gives a shit? More people in America are wiping their asses each second. It's a number that means nothing.

And so . . . ?

Proves nothing.

some more math

current active US Military - 150K

current active Blackwater Xe - 98K

150K + 98K = 248K

signors of the petitions = 350K

you have the mass advantage in numbers
by 102K.

I don't want to live under Obama , but putting your name on a list that gets sent directly to the white house is not very smart, when it's time for them to put us in FEMA camps they will be the people who will be instantly killed upon arrival to the camps. They will make these people enemy of Obama and will be targeted in the end. Keep your name off of shit that goes to the enemy.

it proves there will be thousands of angry ppl on the streets with guns.. not quite the same as having a shit .

the fema camp stories were created to keep you in fear and also help undermine fema which is a social program as our rulers want to rid the country of all gov. funded programs and privatize as much as possible. If you look at the trends that is where we are headed. a free market system with no regulation NOT a socialist state. All you have to do is ask who benefits the most from either system. and logic will tell you corporations and wall street benefit from free market capitalism . they have the power so that is our future . Socialism is set up to take care of the masses. the could give a fuck about the masses so socialism gets met with huge resistance like these people trying to succeed. the only problem is Obama isnt realy socialist. even obamacare benefits the insurance companies and is run by them.

Dream on, videogaming boy.

Who are these angry people with guns on the street going to fire at?

What would be the tactical objectives of all these patriot warriors?

Oh, I know: their urban combat . . . no, wait. They're mostly suburban and rural, so . . . Let's see.


These sesesh patriots out in the scrub of west Texas, they get their guns, see, and they get in their F-150s, see, and they go to . . . to . . .

What is it again that they do?
Go ahead. Lay it out for me. I'm honestly and genuinely interested in seeing you lay this scenario out.


Go!

That's the thing about democracy.

You need to get more than 50% of the people to agree. Otherwise the country would be plunged into chaos by thousands of groups of infantile idiots who want to pick up their toys and go home when they don't get their own way.

That may be the thing for a democracy.. But this country is a republic. And the majority do not rule.

Quote from a dear friend and fellow Texan:

Can we stop being the punch line, Texans? Please. . . Were Texas to seceed from the Union,the fall out would be devastating. We are a part of the United States and the prominence these extreamly weak arguments for secession are based on ...is directly linked to our great state being a part of the United States.

A new and removed Texas would have to form their own currency, their own military force (do you have any idea how much money is invested in just Fort Hood alone?), support for a new infrastructure. . . the first hurricane that hit the coast would throw us into complete upheaval.

If there are truley 35,000 of us who want to break away then I say ya'll should take up arms and do what you can, strike out and try to take over a portion of Mexico perhaps because that is what a seceeded Texas would be, even in a best case scenario, a group of ill prepared partisan militia members fighting the Cartels and their former government just to barely make it as a third world country.

The remanining 25,639,681 citizens in Texas (as of the 2012 census, I'l bet you dimes to dog houses that number is up from then) who have remained rational and at the very damn least logical in this situation would like you all to remember the words and thoughts of Sam Houston, no truer Texan was there ever born than he, when he spoke out against secession in those years that lead up to the bloodiest and darkest hours in our countries history:

"Fellow-Citizens, in the name of your rights and liberties, which I believe have been trampled upon, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of the nationality of Texas, which has been betrayed by the Convention, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of the Constitution of Texas, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of my own conscience and manhood, which this Convention would degrade by dragging me before it, to pander to the malice of my enemies, I refuse to take this oath. I deny the power of this Convention to speak for Texas....I protest....against all the acts and doings of this convention and I declare them null and void"



[link to ottomansandzionists.com]

Just a little something to think about..

Cheers Y'all!

Or, instead of looking at it as a small percentage; The whole thing just started 6 days ago and has grown to 350,000 people and growing at an incredible rate!! No small statement.

This is really quite simple, they don't really want secession! They want to be heard, and they are doing it, as is their right.

Who the fuck ARE you people? 350K dicktuggers sign a petition. SIGN a petition. You then turn this into a dickwagging contest of, yeah, 350k is more than 250k, so, yeah, uh huh uh huh, yeah, you can fight the gov't.


Ha ha ha ha.

Oh, the Marines are @ 190,000.
Army, 770,000

etc., etc.,

I bet half of those signers are lard-ass pig snout-eating dullards of the "do whut??" variety.

Close enough, total active military = 1,458,697 and another 857,261 for reserves and national guard!

Not so fast. As per google, re·pub·lic/riˈpəblik/Noun:
A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president...

To apply this to the US, our senators and representatives are elected, by majority vote, to represent each state (district). Although federal legislation may not be by majority rule, the people do still decide who is going to represent them and those representatives are still dependent on their constituents for their position.

If you have a maximum of 0.1% or a minimum of 0.0004% of a given state's population wishing to secede, that's not even remotely going to sway any elected official to do anything. So yes, majority does still rule.