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More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.

 
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Everyone want to unite in the New JerUSAlem calendar system yet to unite all 50 states for a restored nation of America with God and Jesus Christ yet?

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People are so stupid! No matter who won the election we are screwed.. the bankers and wall street own congress and thus us. Dont secede- change things..
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No, you are so stupid.
People have been trying change for over 150 yrs
and has done nothing.

elections don't change things.
we the people do.
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posters keep saying 350K is only but a fringe
however what they don't tell you is that
only 200K took Normandy back from Hitler.

350K is enough to take back a country.

what the fvck are you waiting for ??
an invitation ??
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Last I checked, the entire United States rather dwarfs the size of Normandy, a mere province of France. Maybe the secessionist can liberate Rhode Island? lol

In all seriousness, again, I think it would be rather hysterical to watch what would ensue should Texas actually secede from the US. I wonder how long it would take before the cartels moved in. Probably about as long as it would take for the US government to withdraw all of its military from the bases within Texas because ya'll sure as hell wouldn't be keeping it. And if the cartels didn't move in, then I wonder how long it would take before Texas rivaled Nigeria?
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
350,000 is something around 1/10 of 1% of the population of the U.S.

In other words, who gives a shit? More people in America are wiping their asses each second. It's a number that means nothing.

And so . . . ?

Proves nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22411639


It proves that during the Revolutionary war only 3 percent actually had the man and womenhood to stand up for their cause, while the rest either sided with the enemy or remained on the sidelines siding with the winner. In this castrated society 1 percent is not a bad showing.

You have a point it does prove nothing as far as real change, but it lets us know that people are ready to take drastic measures.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22017972


Exactly! These are Americans who want their country to be here for their children, What is wrong with that? When we look back in history, we applaud the heroes that stood up and fought for this country, but today, they are all sore losers?? Just shows how far in the toilet we are. God Bless America!
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People are so stupid! No matter who won the election we are screwed.. the bankers and wall street own congress and thus us. Dont secede- change things..
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No, you are so stupid.
People have been trying change for over 150 yrs
and has done nothing.

elections don't change things.
we the people do.
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I didnt say eletions change things but seceding isnt the answer either..
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Looks like 350,000 just signed up for the red list.

Sad.
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People are so stupid! No matter who won the election we are screwed.. the bankers and wall street own congress and thus us. Dont secede- change things..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13272342


No, you are so stupid.
People have been trying change for over 150 yrs
and has done nothing.

elections don't change things.
we the people do.
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I didnt say eletions change things but seceding isnt the answer either..
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13272342


sorry bud but you haven't been paying attention.
the only option they leave us to change things
is through elections.

so we do what is necessary to make the changes
ourselves. we will not be debt slaves any longer.
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
350,000 is something around 1/10 of 1% of the population of the U.S.

In other words, who gives a shit? More people in America are wiping their asses each second. It's a number that means nothing.

And so . . . ?

Proves nothing.
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You're not very good at math are you?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Let's see . . . 10% (.10) of 320,000,000 = 32,000,000
1% (.01) of 320,000,00 = 3,200,000

(.001) of 320,000,000 = 320,000

What could it be, what could it be that comes next? We have 1/10th, 1/100th, so . . . 1/1000th comes next. And what is 1/1000th?

Could it be . . . 1/10 of 1%? Why, I believe it is!!

Back to you, arithmetic whiz.
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I would be very careful at signing any of these.

This gives a big list of political dissidents for when they come to round you up for the FEMA camps.

It is best to lay low for now so you can fight another day.
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Don't express your opinion!
Don't say anything against the Government!
Don't complain or protest!
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they all need to deal. the left had to put up with bush for 8 years and god knows it doesnt get much worse than that. you guys just dont like be lead by a black dude. fine he is kind of left , from my shoes hes right of center, but it is pretty clear that the Neo-con run side of the CIA still tells Obama what to do. he might be able to try and pass medicare, which is really insurance and written by the insurance companies not socialized health care like so many want you to believe.
and do some other left leaning policies but the bottom line is the same for all the presidents. the expansion of empire. now lets get over it and figure out a solution together.
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Could it be . . . 1/10 of 1%? Why, I believe it is!!

Back to you, arithmetic whiz.
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you have never set foot inside a war zone have you ??
I think not.

the entire population will not be involved
in the fighting so your math does not work
realistically

in a war zone, you only count the ones
holding weapons doing the fighting and/or
in support roles

all the others are neutral
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
350,000 is something around 1/10 of 1% of the population of the U.S.

In other words, who gives a shit? More people in America are wiping their asses each second. It's a number that means nothing.

And so . . . ?

Proves nothing.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22411639


You're not very good at math are you?
 Quoting: 1nf1del


Let's see . . . 10% (.10) of 320,000,000 = 32,000,000
1% (.01) of 320,000,00 = 3,200,000

(.001) of 320,000,000 = 320,000

What could it be, what could it be that comes next? We have 1/10th, 1/100th, so . . . 1/1000th comes next. And what is 1/1000th?

Could it be . . . 1/10 of 1%? Why, I believe it is!!

Back to you, arithmetic whiz.
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I love you in a non-creepy/stalker way. Just saying. You give me hope.
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I personally would be afraid to put my name on any of these petitions. You are basically giving them your name and where you live and shouting "hey, I am an enemy of the Federal Government." When they start rounding people up, who do you think they will come for first???
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Or might end up on Obama's secret kill list

hiding
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350,000 is something around 1/10 of 1% of the population of the U.S.

In other words, who gives a shit? More people in America are wiping their asses each second. It's a number that means nothing.

And so . . . ?

Proves nothing.
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it proves there will be thousands of angry ppl on the streets with guns.. not quite the same as having a shit .ahhhdoomsolrocket
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some more math

current active US Military - 150K

current active Blackwater Xe - 98K

150K + 98K = 248K

signors of the petitions = 350K

you have the mass advantage in numbers
by 102K.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27692055


Who the fuck ARE you people? 350K dicktuggers sign a petition. SIGN a petition. You then turn this into a dickwagging contest of, yeah, 350k is more than 250k, so, yeah, uh huh uh huh, yeah, you can fight the gov't.


Ha ha ha ha.

Oh, the Marines are @ 190,000.
Army, 770,000

etc., etc.,

I bet half of those signers are lard-ass pig snout-eating dullards of the "do whut??" variety.
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site.

Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past.

According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government."

Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney.

Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began.

Link for Texas:
[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]

Full list of petitions:
[link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)]
 Quoting: Gaver


I don't want to live under Obama , but putting your name on a list that gets sent directly to the white house is not very smart, when it's time for them to put us in FEMA camps they will be the people who will be instantly killed upon arrival to the camps. They will make these people enemy of Obama and will be targeted in the end. Keep your name off of shit that goes to the enemy.
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the fema camp stories were created to keep you in fear and also help undermine fema which is a social program as our rulers want to rid the country of all gov. funded programs and privatize as much as possible. If you look at the trends that is where we are headed. a free market system with no regulation NOT a socialist state. All you have to do is ask who benefits the most from either system. and logic will tell you corporations and wall street benefit from free market capitalism . they have the power so that is our future . Socialism is set up to take care of the masses. the could give a fuck about the masses so socialism gets met with huge resistance like these people trying to succeed. the only problem is Obama isnt realy socialist. even obamacare benefits the insurance companies and is run by them.
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
350,000 is something around 1/10 of 1% of the population of the U.S.

In other words, who gives a shit? More people in America are wiping their asses each second. It's a number that means nothing.

And so . . . ?

Proves nothing.
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it proves there will be thousands of angry ppl on the streets with guns.. not quite the same as having a shit .ahhhdoomsolrocket
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Dream on, videogaming boy.

Who are these angry people with guns on the street going to fire at?

What would be the tactical objectives of all these patriot warriors?

Oh, I know: their urban combat . . . no, wait. They're mostly suburban and rural, so . . . Let's see.


These sesesh patriots out in the scrub of west Texas, they get their guns, see, and they get in their F-150s, see, and they go to . . . to . . .

What is it again that they do?
Go ahead. Lay it out for me. I'm honestly and genuinely interested in seeing you lay this scenario out.


Go!
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the fema camp stories were created to keep you in fear and also help undermine fema which is a social program as our rulers want to rid the country of all gov. funded programs and privatize as much as possible. If you look at the trends that is where we are headed. a free market system with no regulation NOT a socialist state. All you have to do is ask who benefits the most from either system. and logic will tell you corporations and wall street benefit from free market capitalism . they have the power so that is our future . Socialism is set up to take care of the masses. the could give a fuck about the masses so socialism gets met with huge resistance like these people trying to succeed. the only problem is Obama isnt realy socialist. even obamacare benefits the insurance companies and is run by them.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27694390


Dude, don't even try. They want to live in their fantasy world where socialism is everywhere and lil ole capitalism is shaking in its boots.

They don't realize that they live in a FASCIST police state. They THINK they are being herded into a SOCIALIST police state, and that's the way the powers want it. While they are all holding onto their dicks and guns and staring out the window into the darkened night, looking for big bad mr. socialism, THE FASCIST OVERLORDS are in the back bedroom, pounding Mama into oblivion. Or somesuch constipated metaphor.

Rather than pay for state services via taxes, they want, and will receive, a system whereby they pay, in fees, for everything they do.
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More fun with math. Using the base assumption that those who sign a petition for another state are going to be more likely to sign several states' petitions outside of their own and as Minnesota as a sample state, around 19 out of 411 signers for Minnesota's petition actually designated themselves as Minnesota residents.

19 out of 411 is .046 or 5% of the signers identified as residents on Minnesota's petition. The rest are most likely repeat signers. If we apply that 5% to the entire 350,000, that means that probably around 16,180 people are non-repeat signers that actually signed their state's petition. To be fair, some states do have higher numbers of resident signers such as Tennessee and Texas, but that's still not nearly going to hit towards 350k.

So even that 1/10 of 1% is still a gross overestimate of people interested in secession (or dumb enough to sign a petition for it when there are legal means for a state to secede from the union). It'd be more along the lines of 0.005% based on Minnesota being a random sample.

Edit: To be fair, random sample of 130 signers in Georgia shows 49% of the signers being residents of the state. 49% of 24,250 is almost 12k. So differences between North and South again, lol.

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Oh and to add; Population of Georgia is 9.815 million so that would be around 0.1% of the population of Georgia signing it so far.
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350,000 is something around 1/10 of 1% of the population of the U.S.

In other words, who gives a shit? More people in America are wiping their asses each second. It's a number that means nothing.

And so . . . ?

Proves nothing.
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it proves there will be thousands of angry ppl on the streets with guns.. not quite the same as having a shit .ahhhdoomsolrocket
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Dream on, videogaming boy.

Who are these angry people with guns on the street going to fire at?

What would be the tactical objectives of all these patriot warriors?

Oh, I know: their urban combat . . . no, wait. They're mostly suburban and rural, so . . . Let's see.


These sesesh patriots out in the scrub of west Texas, they get their guns, see, and they get in their F-150s, see, and they go to . . . to . . .

What is it again that they do?
Go ahead. Lay it out for me. I'm honestly and genuinely interested in seeing you lay this scenario out.


Go!
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don't know anything about 4th and 5th gen warfare do you?
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Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site.

Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past.

According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government."

Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney.

Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began.
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That's the thing about democracy.

You need to get more than 50% of the people to agree. Otherwise the country would be plunged into chaos by thousands of groups of infantile idiots who want to pick up their toys and go home when they don't get their own way.
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That may be the thing for a democracy.. But this country is a republic. And the majority do not rule.
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Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site.

Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past.

According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government."

Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney.

Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began.
 Quoting: Gaver


That's the thing about democracy.

You need to get more than 50% of the people to agree. Otherwise the country would be plunged into chaos by thousands of groups of infantile idiots who want to pick up their toys and go home when they don't get their own way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27157128


That may be the thing for a democracy.. But this country is a republic. And the majority do not rule.
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Not so fast. As per google, re·pub·lic/riˈpəblik/Noun:
A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president...

To apply this to the US, our senators and representatives are elected, by majority vote, to represent each state (district). Although federal legislation may not be by majority rule, the people do still decide who is going to represent them and those representatives are still dependent on their constituents for their position.

If you have a maximum of 0.1% or a minimum of 0.0004% of a given state's population wishing to secede, that's not even remotely going to sway any elected official to do anything. So yes, majority does still rule.
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Quote from a dear friend and fellow Texan:

Can we stop being the punch line, Texans? Please. . . Were Texas to seceed from the Union,the fall out would be devastating. We are a part of the United States and the prominence these extreamly weak arguments for secession are based on ...is directly linked to our great state being a part of the United States.

A new and removed Texas would have to form their own currency, their own military force (do you have any idea how much money is invested in just Fort Hood alone?), support for a new infrastructure. . . the first hurricane that hit the coast would throw us into complete upheaval.

If there are truley 35,000 of us who want to break away then I say ya'll should take up arms and do what you can, strike out and try to take over a portion of Mexico perhaps because that is what a seceeded Texas would be, even in a best case scenario, a group of ill prepared partisan militia members fighting the Cartels and their former government just to barely make it as a third world country.

The remanining 25,639,681 citizens in Texas (as of the 2012 census, I'l bet you dimes to dog houses that number is up from then) who have remained rational and at the very damn least logical in this situation would like you all to remember the words and thoughts of Sam Houston, no truer Texan was there ever born than he, when he spoke out against secession in those years that lead up to the bloodiest and darkest hours in our countries history:

"Fellow-Citizens, in the name of your rights and liberties, which I believe have been trampled upon, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of the nationality of Texas, which has been betrayed by the Convention, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of the Constitution of Texas, I refuse to take this oath. In the name of my own conscience and manhood, which this Convention would degrade by dragging me before it, to pander to the malice of my enemies, I refuse to take this oath. I deny the power of this Convention to speak for Texas....I protest....against all the acts and doings of this convention and I declare them null and void"



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Just a little something to think about..

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 Quoting: Evenstar 787926


Right, and this exactly why the government won't let any of these states go, the U$ would surely collapse a lot sooner than later!
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
Not exactly. Alot of signatures for the respective states come from people outside of that particular state. So if say 20,000 signatures appear on a signature for a respective state, approximately half of them are from people who don't live in that state so it's not really the will or desire of that many people in that particular state.

Also 350k is a really small percentage of the approximately 313 million people in this country so impressive as it sounds, it's still basically the fringe of our society and not really "the will of the people"

Just saying
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Or, instead of looking at it as a small percentage; The whole thing just started 6 days ago and has grown to 350,000 people and growing at an incredible rate!! No small statement.

This is really quite simple, they don't really want secession! They want to be heard, and they are doing it, as is their right.
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This, and I think most want to avoid another revolution!
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
some more math

current active US Military - 150K

current active Blackwater Xe - 98K

150K + 98K = 248K

signors of the petitions = 350K

you have the mass advantage in numbers
by 102K.
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Who the fuck ARE you people? 350K dicktuggers sign a petition. SIGN a petition. You then turn this into a dickwagging contest of, yeah, 350k is more than 250k, so, yeah, uh huh uh huh, yeah, you can fight the gov't.


Ha ha ha ha.

Oh, the Marines are @ 190,000.
Army, 770,000

etc., etc.,

I bet half of those signers are lard-ass pig snout-eating dullards of the "do whut??" variety.
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Close enough, total active military = 1,458,697 and another 857,261 for reserves and national guard!
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some more math

current active US Military - 150K

current active Blackwater Xe - 98K

150K + 98K = 248K

signors of the petitions = 350K

you have the mass advantage in numbers
by 102K.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27692055


Who the fuck ARE you people? 350K dicktuggers sign a petition. SIGN a petition. You then turn this into a dickwagging contest of, yeah, 350k is more than 250k, so, yeah, uh huh uh huh, yeah, you can fight the gov't.


Ha ha ha ha.

Oh, the Marines are @ 190,000.
Army, 770,000

etc., etc.,

I bet half of those signers are lard-ass pig snout-eating dullards of the "do whut??" variety.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19054218


Close enough, total active military = 1,458,697 and another 857,261 for reserves and national guard!
 Quoting: 1nf1del



So?
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site.

Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past.

According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government."

Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney.

Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began.
 Quoting: Gaver


That's the thing about democracy.

You need to get more than 50% of the people to agree. Otherwise the country would be plunged into chaos by thousands of groups of infantile idiots who want to pick up their toys and go home when they don't get their own way.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27157128


That may be the thing for a democracy.. But this country is a republic. And the majority do not rule.
 Quoting: NightWisp



Not so fast. As per google, re·pub·lic/riˈpəblik/Noun:
A state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president...

To apply this to the US, our senators and representatives are elected, by majority vote, to represent each state (district). Although federal legislation may not be by majority rule, the people do still decide who is going to represent them and those representatives are still dependent on their constituents for their position.

If you have a maximum of 0.1% or a minimum of 0.0004% of a given state's population wishing to secede, that's not even remotely going to sway any elected official to do anything. So yes, majority does still rule.
 Quoting: ArmchairObserver


No, try to look at history. No where near the "majority" wanted obama care. Not to mention various wars.
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
This is just Hysterical Nitwits Gone Wild (coming soon to youtube). Read enough of this crap and you too can lose IQ points.
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Re: More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S.
This is the beginning. 2013 will see the largest tax revolt in history following the largest tax hikes in history.

15 million people abandoned the system in 2012. 15 million fewer voters in 4 years. People are waking up and realizing it is over.

Economic collapse will spur the secession movement.

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