More than 350,000 Americans have signed a petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. | |
IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 11/13/2012 02:12 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't been following this story and don't have an opinion one way or another but just refreshed my feed list and this article was at the top Quoting: RTS REDUX W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede [link to www.weeklystandard.com] lol...thats about as smart as pouring gasoline on a gas fire |
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RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 United States 11/13/2012 02:17 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't been following this story and don't have an opinion one way or another but just refreshed my feed list and this article was at the top Quoting: RTS REDUX W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede [link to www.weeklystandard.com] just went down the list and it's already linked on Drudge here's the headline WAR! New petition to strip U.S. citizenship from secession signers... from Drudge Report Feed (Second column, 10th story, link) |
NikkiK User ID: 1484747 United States 11/13/2012 02:24 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't been following this story and don't have an opinion one way or another but just refreshed my feed list and this article was at the top Quoting: RTS REDUX W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede [link to www.weeklystandard.com] Why do I see civil war in our near future. This is going to get ugly I am afraid. BTW - I love that quote in your signature. Spot on. |
Phennommennonn Forum Administrator 11/13/2012 02:27 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | On Tue, 11/13/12, brian f > wrote: I just got off the phone with my State Legislator and we talked about all these petitions and how they wont work but are waking people up to the idea. He wants me to put together an email about how we are going to do this and what it should say. so whats that tell you folks??? just like OWS - theres an infiltration here....tptb have been wanting an uprising and or riots here. petitions such as this are bullshit - only a governor can auth to secede and your govs wont do it bc of federal money. secession comes from the respective governor. this is shit. just a bunch of revolutiontards using virtual pickets. dont get caught up in it. do your homework. Last Edited by Phennommennonn on 11/13/2012 02:28 PM political correctness is a doctrine.... fostered by a delusional, illogical minority...... and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media; which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end. |
SowingSeeds User ID: 26861823 United States 11/13/2012 02:30 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Jericho For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.Galatians 6:8 I believe that if this once great nation will fall on their knees and turn back to God,He will postpone the hellfire that is sure to reign down on us very soon.Prayer has Power. |
ArmchairObserver User ID: 12411641 United States 11/13/2012 02:31 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not exactly. Alot of signatures for the respective states come from people outside of that particular state. So if say 20,000 signatures appear on a signature for a respective state, approximately half of them are from people who don't live in that state so it's not really the will or desire of that many people in that particular state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24642485 Also 350k is a really small percentage of the approximately 313 million people in this country so impressive as it sounds, it's still basically the fringe of our society and not really "the will of the people" Just saying Glad I'm not the only one to note that. I find it blisteringly hypocritical that, for people who want to secede from "the nation", they sure want to make other states' business their own. Isolationist fail. lol I'm guessing that it's more than likely a manipulation to either a. induce fear of civil war (a theme also getting laid on thick in various forms of media) or b. in the hopes of inducing other states to join on. Not surprised to see higher numbers in Texas as they were already talking secession back in 2008. AO |
ArmchairObserver User ID: 12411641 United States 11/13/2012 02:33 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | this came off the APFN...someone who contacted their legislator Quoting: Phennommennonn On Tue, 11/13/12, brian f > wrote: I just got off the phone with my State Legislator and we talked about all these petitions and how they wont work but are waking people up to the idea. He wants me to put together an email about how we are going to do this and what it should say. so whats that tell you folks??? just like OWS - theres an infiltration here....tptb have been wanting an uprising and or riots here. petitions such as this are bullshit - only a governor can auth to secede and your govs wont do it bc of federal money. secession comes from the respective governor. this is shit. just a bunch of revolutiontards using virtual pickets. dont get caught up in it. do your homework. Absolutely agree 100% with the above. It's manipulation at its purest. AO |
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RTS REDUX User ID: 8620349 United States 11/13/2012 02:45 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I haven't been following this story and don't have an opinion one way or another but just refreshed my feed list and this article was at the top Quoting: RTS REDUX W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede [link to www.weeklystandard.com] Why do I see civil war in our near future. This is going to get ugly I am afraid. BTW - I love that quote in your signature. Spot on. IMO that quote is a very simplified explanation for what's going on in the world which most don't have a clue about..especially on the left here's a link to the book [link to www.whale.to] this came off the APFN...someone who contacted their legislator Quoting: Phennommennonn On Tue, 11/13/12, brian f > wrote: I just got off the phone with my State Legislator and we talked about all these petitions and how they wont work but are waking people up to the idea. He wants me to put together an email about how we are going to do this and what it should say. so whats that tell you folks??? just like OWS - theres an infiltration here....tptb have been wanting an uprising and or riots here. petitions such as this are bullshit - only a governor can auth to secede and your govs wont do it bc of federal money. secession comes from the respective governor. this is shit. just a bunch of revolutiontards using virtual pickets. dont get caught up in it. do your homework. exactly..makes perfect sense |
SowingSeeds User ID: 26861823 United States 11/13/2012 02:51 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Warning> those signing these petitions will be classified as terrorist,anti-american,and charged with treason.They will be put on the red list,as non compliants,unable to reform. For he that soweth to his flesh shall of the flesh reap corruption; but he that soweth to the Spirit shall of the Spirit reap life everlasting.Galatians 6:8 I believe that if this once great nation will fall on their knees and turn back to God,He will postpone the hellfire that is sure to reign down on us very soon.Prayer has Power. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24642485 United States 11/13/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27021681 United States 11/13/2012 02:58 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not exactly. Alot of signatures for the respective states come from people outside of that particular state. So if say 20,000 signatures appear on a signature for a respective state, approximately half of them are from people who don't live in that state so it's not really the will or desire of that many people in that particular state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24642485 Also 350k is a really small percentage of the approximately 313 million people in this country so impressive as it sounds, it's still basically the fringe of our society and not really "the will of the people" Just saying oh really? what else did your uncle tell you? |
ArmchairObserver User ID: 12411641 United States 11/13/2012 02:59 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | I signed a petition for Texas even though I live in California. By doing so, I'm saying they have a right to secede if they want to and without the fear of violence. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9645738 Problem with doing so, no matter how well intentioned, is that it allows for the fear mongering or a false showing of numbers of support for secessionist activities within the country. Rather like this thread's title in itself. There are not more than 350,0000 Americans who have signed one of these petitions. A number of the signers are duplicates. I agree with you, though...if Texas wants to bail, I'd be right alongside you to showing them the door. I just also don't want to lend my support in something that I think is foolhardy and is just a mere tool for manipulation. AO |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 24642485 United States 11/13/2012 03:03 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Not exactly. Alot of signatures for the respective states come from people outside of that particular state. So if say 20,000 signatures appear on a signature for a respective state, approximately half of them are from people who don't live in that state so it's not really the will or desire of that many people in that particular state. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24642485 Also 350k is a really small percentage of the approximately 313 million people in this country so impressive as it sounds, it's still basically the fringe of our society and not really "the will of the people" Just saying oh really? what else did your uncle tell you? Wasn't my uncle, it was my eyes. You can see the home state of the people who signed the petitions. Of course you actually have to LOOK to see that. It would also make sense to look before you speak. The only thing my uncle did say was some dweeb would would have a silly, uninformed comeback asking me, "What else did your uncle tell you?" Damn that man is spot on...... |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19588417 United States 11/13/2012 03:05 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to www.weeklystandard.com] Isn't that what they want? I mean to no longer be citizens of the US is what they're asking for isn't it? "Strip Texas of it's citizenship and deport it's citizens from the US to Texas." |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 19700749 United States 11/13/2012 03:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site. Quoting: Gaver Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past. According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney. Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began. I have kept saying that It doesn't matter if you agree or disagree with those signing the petitions In 40 years of watching elections, as a history major, I have *never* seen an election result in a flood of petition requests within days... Not when Clinton was elected the 2nd time and many disagreed, not when Bush was elected the 2nd time and many disagreed..this is not a partisan thing, imho it is a reflection of a deep division in the country, a sense that the government does not listen to them and worse...a belief that it useless trying to sent representatives or senators to represent them Secession is divorce for nations, discussion of divorce is a measure of unreconcilable differences. Let's see how this evolves in coming months. If it stops here, we're OK, if those numbers keep multiplying , worth keeping an eye on it also is in complete contrast to "election" results showing Obama getting 100% of the votes in many areas. |
IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 11/13/2012 03:15 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | W.H. Petition Calls for Stripping Citizenship and Exile for Anyone Who Signs Petition to Secede Quoting: RTS REDUX [link to www.weeklystandard.com] Isn't that what they want? I mean to no longer be citizens of the US is what they're asking for isn't it? "Strip Texas of it's citizenship and deport it's citizens from the US to Texas." |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 20300723 United States 11/13/2012 03:35 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site. Quoting: Gaver Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past. According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney. Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began. Link for Texas: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Full list of petitions: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] I don't want to live under Obama , but putting your name on a list that gets sent directly to the white house is not very smart, when it's time for them to put us in FEMA camps they will be the people who will be instantly killed upon arrival to the camps. They will make these people enemy of Obama and will be targeted in the end. Keep your name off of shit that goes to the enemy. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 27679297 United States 11/13/2012 03:47 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site. Quoting: Gaver Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past. According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney. Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began. Link for Texas: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Full list of petitions: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] I don't want to live under Obama , but putting your name on a list that gets sent directly to the white house is not very smart, when it's time for them to put us in FEMA camps they will be the people who will be instantly killed upon arrival to the camps. They will make these people enemy of Obama and will be targeted in the end. Keep your name off of shit that goes to the enemy. You don't have to go to the camps, you have a choice. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 20300723 United States 11/13/2012 04:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site. Quoting: Gaver Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past. According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney. Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began. Link for Texas: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Full list of petitions: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] I don't want to live under Obama , but putting your name on a list that gets sent directly to the white house is not very smart, when it's time for them to put us in FEMA camps they will be the people who will be instantly killed upon arrival to the camps. They will make these people enemy of Obama and will be targeted in the end. Keep your name off of shit that goes to the enemy. You don't have to go to the camps, you have a choice. Yea, run and hid ein the Woods. when they come to put you in them under martal law you will have no choice.plase dont fall for that bull. You have no choice under Obama. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 787926 United States 11/13/2012 04:16 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site. Quoting: Gaver Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past. According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney. Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began. Link for Texas: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Full list of petitions: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] This is so freaking silly! But, in the spirit of participation and as a Texan and specifically an Austinite I have decided to sign this petition instead: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 19054218 United States 11/13/2012 04:18 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Yeah, put your name on the list, get a drone on your ass. And why not? If you don't want to be a citizen of this country anymore, fuck off and don't let the door hit your ass on the way out. This is so mindnumbingly fucked up. Deal with it, people. We are all Americans. I know I never talked secession crap when Bush "won" twice. He was the president, and so I prayed that he would succeed. You people, however . . . |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 1513486 United States 11/13/2012 04:20 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Residents of more than half of U.S. states, namely, 350,000 people declared their unwillingness to live in the country under the leadership of past winner in the presidential election of Barack Obama. They all signed the petition to withdraw their states from the U.S. on the official White House Web site. Quoting: Gaver Residents of 29 U.S. states, in particular, 350 thousand people signed a petition to secede from the United States in the region on the official White House Web site. Such a decision, U.S. residents took after Barack Obama's victory in the presidential elections of the past. According to U.S. media reports, only the number of signatories per night increased from 100 to 350 thousand people, and the number of states, protesting against the "tyranny of the state," Obama - from 20 to 29. They are all you really need a peaceful secession from the United States and the opportunity to form their own government. Citizens referred to the Declaration of Independence, which states: "If any Form of Government becomes destructive, people have the right to alter or abolish it, and to institute new Government." Disapproval of the current president expressed not anonymous Internet users, but authorized U.S. citizens. In particular, the establishment of the Republic of Texas voted 56 people in the region, for the independence of Louisiana - 31000. Most petitions filed by residents of states that voted for Obama's opponent, Mitt Romney. Last time from the U.S. states came out in 1860 and 1861, after President Abraham Lincoln was elected. Then the civil war began. Link for Texas: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] Full list of petitions: [link to petitions.whitehouse.gov (secure)] hang on people |