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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:13 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Sorry, can't post the links because I read the stories yesterday and can't remember where. Anyway, Paula and hubby went to D.C. after the scandal broke to stay with her parents. Quoting: Anonymous Coward 24547360 She likely was jogging in the park. Did she take her license because she was afraid something could happen to her and the license would identify her? From the way the news story reads, it sounds like her lawyer was confirming that, yes, she did lose it in the park. What I think weird or weirder is the Kelley lady in Tampa. Why were she and her husband entertaining all those top brass? Why is she so connected to all the top players in the military? Her family immigrated to this country from the Middle East. How did she make connections at the top so quickly? Why did all these top brass trust her? Where are her loyalties? Just wondering ... That's exactly what I have been screaming. This girl that came from Lebanon and inserted herself next to very high up military officials, is very, very odd. Since 2001 the military base there has grown by leaps and bounds. 6.5 billion is channeled through there through contractors. Most of the deals are consumated (smirk) in social gatherings. So a whole industry of schmoozers gather around Generals and their ilk, connecting them to other people who profit handsomely by their contacts... And that military base is not just any average military base. [link to www.centcom.mil] |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:14 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if I remember correctly, he has had at least 3 different confirmation hearings. Seems like this reckless behavior for someone with access to National Security secrets, would have already come out, doesn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 The post earlier about the arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria, that is not the first I have heard about that. I've heard that Petraeus knew the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and he was going to say something about it and now the smear campaign is on. He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... Nope, wasn't the CIA doing it from what I heard. He and Stevens were involved in looking into this. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:16 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if I remember correctly, he has had at least 3 different confirmation hearings. Seems like this reckless behavior for someone with access to National Security secrets, would have already come out, doesn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 The post earlier about the arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria, that is not the first I have heard about that. I've heard that Petraeus knew the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and he was going to say something about it and now the smear campaign is on. He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... The CIA has been said to be involved in giving arms to the rebels, but making sure that Al-Qaeda doesn't get them. This other, don't know of the truth behind it or not, is said that the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:17 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if I remember correctly, he has had at least 3 different confirmation hearings. Seems like this reckless behavior for someone with access to National Security secrets, would have already come out, doesn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 The post earlier about the arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria, that is not the first I have heard about that. I've heard that Petraeus knew the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and he was going to say something about it and now the smear campaign is on. He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... Nope, wasn't the CIA doing it from what I heard. He and Stevens were involved in looking into this. You've got alot of reading to catch up on... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:21 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if I remember correctly, he has had at least 3 different confirmation hearings. Seems like this reckless behavior for someone with access to National Security secrets, would have already come out, doesn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 The post earlier about the arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria, that is not the first I have heard about that. I've heard that Petraeus knew the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and he was going to say something about it and now the smear campaign is on. He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... Nope, wasn't the CIA doing it from what I heard. He and Stevens were involved in looking into this. You've got alot of reading to catch up on... Nope, don't have a lot of reading to catch up on. I'm telling you the things I'm hearing from some of the government officials, due to my job. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27304459 11/14/2012 12:22 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | If her family doesn't come forward shortly to claim she is missing then it's all part of the psyop Quoting: Anonymous Coward 19700749 Before this, the last I saw in the news about the Broadwell family was that they were out of town for a long weekend. Where is her husband right now? Is he still going to work ?Don't suppose he wants to talk to the media, though. Most likely the whole family is in seclusion somewhere. Hope it is a secure safehouse. I don't get why the husband hasn't kicked that wandering twat to the curb? In my opinion, it's because they're a part of a community that passes these girls around. It's all a part of the deal, not a surprise. Though apparently there can be some sensitive feelings, e.g. between Broadwell and Kelley. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:23 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if I remember correctly, he has had at least 3 different confirmation hearings. Seems like this reckless behavior for someone with access to National Security secrets, would have already come out, doesn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 The post earlier about the arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria, that is not the first I have heard about that. I've heard that Petraeus knew the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and he was going to say something about it and now the smear campaign is on. He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... The CIA has been said to be involved in giving arms to the rebels, but making sure that Al-Qaeda doesn't get them. This other, don't know of the truth behind it or not, is said that the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria. Funding by CIA and French and others was well established well before NATO went in (Benghazi was a major base giving Ghaddafi all sorts of problems). I read the CIA was vetting Al Queda members in Benghazi to make sure "they hadnt killed Americans". Okay..... Did they use a lie detector test? Remember Al Queda is not an organization in the usual sense, it is anyone who wishes to form a group to fight secularist infidels and follow certain principals. That's about it... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | And if I remember correctly, he has had at least 3 different confirmation hearings. Seems like this reckless behavior for someone with access to National Security secrets, would have already come out, doesn't it? Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 The post earlier about the arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria, that is not the first I have heard about that. I've heard that Petraeus knew the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria and he was going to say something about it and now the smear campaign is on. He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... The CIA has been said to be involved in giving arms to the rebels, but making sure that Al-Qaeda doesn't get them. This other, don't know of the truth behind it or not, is said that the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria. Funding by CIA and French and others was well established well before NATO went in (Benghazi was a major base giving Ghaddafi all sorts of problems). I read the CIA was vetting Al Queda members in Benghazi to make sure "they hadnt killed Americans". Okay..... Did they use a lie detector test? Remember Al Queda is not an organization in the usual sense, it is anyone who wishes to form a group to fight secularist infidels and follow certain principals. That's about it... I wasn't talking about Benghazi, I was talking about arming Al-Qaeda in Syria. I know what Al-Qaeda is. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 26519409 11/14/2012 12:26 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | How does a General (John Allen) send THOUSANDS of emails to Jill Kelley?! THOUSANDS?! Does he do any WORK throughout the day?! What the hell's going on over there?! This scandal is going to be HUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE, and it's going to be about something much different than we've been told. Quoting: Thor's Hamster 30,000 emails in 2 years. WHAT THE HELL?!?!?!?!?! That averages out to 41 per day. that was my reaction. I don't talk to my best friend that many times. I have never talked to a boyfriend that many times even while wildly in love. It is an insane amount of contact for a General to be having. If my boss was having that much contact daily with someone I would think he was insane! Whoa! All day, lets say 16 hours or so, 3 times an hour. what? Didn't he have work to do?Always fixated on this Kelly chick? And Petraeus is talking to her too. So she must be just sitting allll day with her smartphone. WTH? this is just not real. this is just impossible. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:28 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624 He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... Nope, wasn't the CIA doing it from what I heard. He and Stevens were involved in looking into this. You've got alot of reading to catch up on... Nope, don't have a lot of reading to catch up on. I'm telling you the things I'm hearing from some of the government officials, due to my job. The diplomatic corp has only so much reach. CIA has its own security and wads of cash. They've been in Benghazi since day 1. Stevens was a diplomat,, and hardly trained to deal with the hard core mercenary/military wheelings and dealings going on there. Stevens is being given alot of credit in some circles for organizing the "gun deals and Syria" connections and what not. But I dont believe it, definitely CIA.. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23014610 11/14/2012 12:30 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23014610 Well perhaps then you need to catch up. Neither of them is claiming that they were having an affair until AFTER he became the director of the CIA. In other words he was a civilian. And what does JILL KELLEY being a madame have to do with Petraeus and Broadwell's affair? You are confusing the two women. I'm not confusing the two women at all. All these people are linked together, by one person Jill Kelley, an immigrant from Lebanon. If you think this went from nothing to a full blown affair in about a month, you are crazy. I don't care what anyone admitted. These two people, Petraeus and Broadwell, had done massive work in counter-terrorism and intelligence. They did monitoring of emails and knew how people got caught. The affair began around September 2011 and according to Petraeus he ended it about 4 months ago. Doing the math that would be an affair that lasted about 10 months. Where are you getting one month from? "I know what a madame is, but that would have been found out during Petraeus' confirmation hearings." What did you mean by this? Why would Jill Kelley have even been known about in 2011 during Petraeu's confirmation hearings? No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. That was your huge stretch. I NEVER said that Petraeus was involved with hookers. Paula Broadwell is NOT a hooker, not even close. I think they had a legitimate affair. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:32 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 Nope, wasn't the CIA doing it from what I heard. He and Stevens were involved in looking into this. You've got alot of reading to catch up on... Nope, don't have a lot of reading to catch up on. I'm telling you the things I'm hearing from some of the government officials, due to my job. The diplomatic corp has only so much reach. CIA has its own security and wads of cash. They've been in Benghazi since day 1. Stevens was a diplomat,, and hardly trained to deal with the hard core mercenary/military wheelings and dealings going on there. Stevens is being given alot of credit in some circles for organizing the "gun deals and Syria" connections and what not. But I dont believe it, definitely CIA.. Again, what is being talked about is a different issue than the CIA arming the rebels, but rather the US Government arming Al-Qaeda. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624 He's CIA, so I would think he knew about it. lol. They would have been in control of it... The CIA has been said to be involved in giving arms to the rebels, but making sure that Al-Qaeda doesn't get them. This other, don't know of the truth behind it or not, is said that the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria. Funding by CIA and French and others was well established well before NATO went in (Benghazi was a major base giving Ghaddafi all sorts of problems). I read the CIA was vetting Al Queda members in Benghazi to make sure "they hadnt killed Americans". Okay..... Did they use a lie detector test? Remember Al Queda is not an organization in the usual sense, it is anyone who wishes to form a group to fight secularist infidels and follow certain principals. That's about it... I wasn't talking about Benghazi, I was talking about arming Al-Qaeda in Syria. I know what Al-Qaeda is. Yeah, okay. But Benghazi is second only to Saudi Arabia for recruits,,., |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:33 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 I'm not confusing the two women at all. All these people are linked together, by one person Jill Kelley, an immigrant from Lebanon. If you think this went from nothing to a full blown affair in about a month, you are crazy. I don't care what anyone admitted. These two people, Petraeus and Broadwell, had done massive work in counter-terrorism and intelligence. They did monitoring of emails and knew how people got caught. The affair began around September 2011 and according to Petraeus he ended it about 4 months ago. Doing the math that would be an affair that lasted about 10 months. Where are you getting one month from? "I know what a madame is, but that would have been found out during Petraeus' confirmation hearings." What did you mean by this? Why would Jill Kelley have even been known about in 2011 during Petraeu's confirmation hearings? No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. That was your huge stretch. I NEVER said that Petraeus was involved with hookers. Paula Broadwell is NOT a hooker, not even close. I think they had a legitimate affair. Never said Paula Broadwell was a hooker. Now if Kelley is a madame, there are hookers involved, no? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 23014610 11/14/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23014610 The affair began around September 2011 and according to Petraeus he ended it about 4 months ago. Doing the math that would be an affair that lasted about 10 months. Where are you getting one month from? "I know what a madame is, but that would have been found out during Petraeus' confirmation hearings." What did you mean by this? Why would Jill Kelley have even been known about in 2011 during Petraeu's confirmation hearings? No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. That was your huge stretch. I NEVER said that Petraeus was involved with hookers. Paula Broadwell is NOT a hooker, not even close. I think they had a legitimate affair. Never said Paula Broadwell was a hooker. Now if Kelley is a madame, there are hookers involved, no? You are being obtuse. Why would Jill Kelley be brought up in Petraeus' hearing if he was not involved with hookers? She would not be brought up just because he knows her, lol. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:36 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 The CIA has been said to be involved in giving arms to the rebels, but making sure that Al-Qaeda doesn't get them. This other, don't know of the truth behind it or not, is said that the US was selling arms to Al-Qaeda in Syria. Funding by CIA and French and others was well established well before NATO went in (Benghazi was a major base giving Ghaddafi all sorts of problems). I read the CIA was vetting Al Queda members in Benghazi to make sure "they hadnt killed Americans". Okay..... Did they use a lie detector test? Remember Al Queda is not an organization in the usual sense, it is anyone who wishes to form a group to fight secularist infidels and follow certain principals. That's about it... I wasn't talking about Benghazi, I was talking about arming Al-Qaeda in Syria. I know what Al-Qaeda is. Yeah, okay. But Benghazi is second only to Saudi Arabia for recruits,,., I'm just telling you what some of the skuttlebutt is, have no idea if there is truth to it or not. There is just talk that the USA was arming Al-Qaeda in Syria and Stevens and Petraeus knew about it. Not the CIA arming, we all know they work outside of what the White House even knows sometimes, but our actual Federal Government arming Al-Qaeda. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:37 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | Nope, don't have a lot of reading to catch up on. I'm telling you the things I'm hearing from some of the government officials, due to my job. The diplomatic corp has only so much reach. CIA has its own security and wads of cash. They've been in Benghazi since day 1. Stevens was a diplomat,, and hardly trained to deal with the hard core mercenary/military wheelings and dealings going on there. Stevens is being given alot of credit in some circles for organizing the "gun deals and Syria" connections and what not. But I dont believe it, definitely CIA.. Again, what is being talked about is a different issue than the CIA arming the rebels, but rather the US Government arming Al-Qaeda. US Govt = CIA. What other tool does the US govt have for such dealings? The diplomat talks to their opposite numbers in the Libya Transition Council, the Ministry of Interior, etc. Not the wild west: the militias... the warlords... or Al Queda... That's CIA work.,. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:38 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. That was your huge stretch. I NEVER said that Petraeus was involved with hookers. Paula Broadwell is NOT a hooker, not even close. I think they had a legitimate affair. Never said Paula Broadwell was a hooker. Now if Kelley is a madame, there are hookers involved, no? You are being obtuse. Why would Jill Kelley be brought up in Petraeus' hearing if he was not involved with hookers? She would not be brought up just because he knows her, lol. OMG if a Madame was close friends with him that would be brought up. Do you have any idea of the background investigation done into people like him? You can bet that everyone he knew was looked at. Some of us have very limited security clearances because of our job and our close friends are even looked at. I don't think she was a Madame, I think she was probably involved in something more sinister. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19700749 11/14/2012 12:39 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23014610 Well perhaps then you need to catch up. Neither of them is claiming that they were having an affair until AFTER he became the director of the CIA. In other words he was a civilian. And what does JILL KELLEY being a madame have to do with Petraeus and Broadwell's affair? You are confusing the two women. I'm not confusing the two women at all. All these people are linked together, by one person Jill Kelley, an immigrant from Lebanon. If you think this went from nothing to a full blown affair in about a month, you are crazy. I don't care what anyone admitted. These two people, Petraeus and Broadwell, had done massive work in counter-terrorism and intelligence. They did monitoring of emails and knew how people got caught. The affair began around September 2011 and according to Petraeus he ended it about 4 months ago. Doing the math that would be an affair that lasted about 10 months. Where are you getting one month from? "I know what a madame is, but that would have been found out during Petraeus' confirmation hearings." What did you mean by this? Why would Jill Kelley have even been known about in 2011 during Petraeu's confirmation hearings? No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. There is vetting done? You mean like the vetting that was done for the Potus? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 Nope, don't have a lot of reading to catch up on. I'm telling you the things I'm hearing from some of the government officials, due to my job. The diplomatic corp has only so much reach. CIA has its own security and wads of cash. They've been in Benghazi since day 1. Stevens was a diplomat,, and hardly trained to deal with the hard core mercenary/military wheelings and dealings going on there. Stevens is being given alot of credit in some circles for organizing the "gun deals and Syria" connections and what not. But I dont believe it, definitely CIA.. Again, what is being talked about is a different issue than the CIA arming the rebels, but rather the US Government arming Al-Qaeda. US Govt = CIA. What other tool does the US govt have for such dealings? The diplomat talks to their opposite numbers in the Libya Transition Council, the Ministry of Interior, etc. Not the wild west: the militias... the warlords... or Al Queda... That's CIA work.,. You obviously aren't familiar with the CIA, no that does not always = USA Govt. Again, this is a separate issue that is being talked about than the CIA giving arms to rebels in Syria. Why are you arguing about this? I'm just telling you some talk that has gone around in government circles about Stevens and Petraeus. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:40 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624 Funding by CIA and French and others was well established well before NATO went in (Benghazi was a major base giving Ghaddafi all sorts of problems). I read the CIA was vetting Al Queda members in Benghazi to make sure "they hadnt killed Americans". Okay..... Did they use a lie detector test? Remember Al Queda is not an organization in the usual sense, it is anyone who wishes to form a group to fight secularist infidels and follow certain principals. That's about it... I wasn't talking about Benghazi, I was talking about arming Al-Qaeda in Syria. I know what Al-Qaeda is. Yeah, okay. But Benghazi is second only to Saudi Arabia for recruits,,., I'm just telling you what some of the skuttlebutt is, have no idea if there is truth to it or not. There is just talk that the USA was arming Al-Qaeda in Syria and Stevens and Petraeus knew about it. Not the CIA arming, we all know they work outside of what the White House even knows sometimes, but our actual Federal Government arming Al-Qaeda. Well you'd have to tell me what other agency was involved, and why the CIA would be out if the loop. From my reading, yes, Stevens was knowing about the Al Queda presence and was "warning" (unclassified) mails to the State Dept. Was he planning on investigating it on his own? That would have been rather dangerous... |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:41 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 I'm not confusing the two women at all. All these people are linked together, by one person Jill Kelley, an immigrant from Lebanon. If you think this went from nothing to a full blown affair in about a month, you are crazy. I don't care what anyone admitted. These two people, Petraeus and Broadwell, had done massive work in counter-terrorism and intelligence. They did monitoring of emails and knew how people got caught. The affair began around September 2011 and according to Petraeus he ended it about 4 months ago. Doing the math that would be an affair that lasted about 10 months. Where are you getting one month from? "I know what a madame is, but that would have been found out during Petraeus' confirmation hearings." What did you mean by this? Why would Jill Kelley have even been known about in 2011 during Petraeu's confirmation hearings? No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. There is vetting done? You mean like the vetting that was done for the Potus? There is no vetting for the POTUS. Petreaus on the other hand was vetted and went through several different Senate Confirmation hearings for his different positions in the military even. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:43 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 I wasn't talking about Benghazi, I was talking about arming Al-Qaeda in Syria. I know what Al-Qaeda is. Yeah, okay. But Benghazi is second only to Saudi Arabia for recruits,,., I'm just telling you what some of the skuttlebutt is, have no idea if there is truth to it or not. There is just talk that the USA was arming Al-Qaeda in Syria and Stevens and Petraeus knew about it. Not the CIA arming, we all know they work outside of what the White House even knows sometimes, but our actual Federal Government arming Al-Qaeda. Well you'd have to tell me what other agency was involved, and why the CIA would be out if the loop. From my reading, yes, Stevens was knowing about the Al Queda presence and was "warning" (unclassified) mails to the State Dept. Was he planning on investigating it on his own? That would have been rather dangerous... The CIA was not out of the loop and there was no other "agency" involved. They are saying our Administration was arming Al-Qaeda in Syria. Stevens knew about the problems with Al-Qaeda in BENGHAZI, LIBYA and I am talking about something completely different than BENGHAZI, LIBYA. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:44 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624 The diplomatic corp has only so much reach. CIA has its own security and wads of cash. They've been in Benghazi since day 1. Stevens was a diplomat,, and hardly trained to deal with the hard core mercenary/military wheelings and dealings going on there. Stevens is being given alot of credit in some circles for organizing the "gun deals and Syria" connections and what not. But I dont believe it, definitely CIA.. Again, what is being talked about is a different issue than the CIA arming the rebels, but rather the US Government arming Al-Qaeda. US Govt = CIA. What other tool does the US govt have for such dealings? The diplomat talks to their opposite numbers in the Libya Transition Council, the Ministry of Interior, etc. Not the wild west: the militias... the warlords... or Al Queda... That's CIA work.,. You obviously aren't familiar with the CIA, no that does not always = USA Govt. Oh come on. Please. CIA prefers to deal with the underbelly,, they know they get the job done. But I guess you could be right that CIA can tactically operate outside top politicians eyes and ears. I dont know. Is that what you mean? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:48 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 Again, what is being talked about is a different issue than the CIA arming the rebels, but rather the US Government arming Al-Qaeda. US Govt = CIA. What other tool does the US govt have for such dealings? The diplomat talks to their opposite numbers in the Libya Transition Council, the Ministry of Interior, etc. Not the wild west: the militias... the warlords... or Al Queda... That's CIA work.,. You obviously aren't familiar with the CIA, no that does not always = USA Govt. Oh come on. Please. CIA prefers to deal with the underbelly,, they know they get the job done. But I guess you could be right that CIA can tactically operate outside top politicians eyes and ears. I dont know. Is that what you mean? Yes that is what I mean and they do it a lot, they always have. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 19700749 11/14/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 23014610 The affair began around September 2011 and according to Petraeus he ended it about 4 months ago. Doing the math that would be an affair that lasted about 10 months. Where are you getting one month from? "I know what a madame is, but that would have been found out during Petraeus' confirmation hearings." What did you mean by this? Why would Jill Kelley have even been known about in 2011 during Petraeu's confirmation hearings? No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. There is vetting done? You mean like the vetting that was done for the Potus? There is no vetting for the POTUS. Petreaus on the other hand was vetted and went through several different Senate Confirmation hearings for his different positions in the military even. There is supposed to be vetting of the Potus. If nobody did it for the Potus what makes you believe in the vetting process for the head of CIA? |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:49 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624 US Govt = CIA. What other tool does the US govt have for such dealings? The diplomat talks to their opposite numbers in the Libya Transition Council, the Ministry of Interior, etc. Not the wild west: the militias... the warlords... or Al Queda... That's CIA work.,. You obviously aren't familiar with the CIA, no that does not always = USA Govt. Oh come on. Please. CIA prefers to deal with the underbelly,, they know they get the job done. But I guess you could be right that CIA can tactically operate outside top politicians eyes and ears. I dont know. Is that what you mean? Yes that is what I mean and they do it a lot, they always have. Not just "top politicians" but all politicians, all the way to the top. The POTUS knows what the CIA wants him to know, about their activities. |
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| Anonymous Coward User ID: 14151487 11/14/2012 12:50 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14151487 No, one month after he was confirmed and the affair beginning. How would she be known? Well first, she was doing all these parties and has know Petraeous and his wife for several years and they had been to her house a lot. She was running around with top brass of the military, two Generals that were over things in Afghanistan and some other big shots. If Petraeous was involved with hookers and Kelley was the madame, then this would have surfaced during the investigation. They don't just appoint someone as CIA Director, there is a vetting done. There is vetting done? You mean like the vetting that was done for the Potus? There is no vetting for the POTUS. Petreaus on the other hand was vetted and went through several different Senate Confirmation hearings for his different positions in the military even. There is supposed to be vetting of the Potus. If nobody did it for the Potus what makes you believe in the vetting process for the head of CIA? There has never been a vetting for the POTUS, ever. |
| Anonymous Coward User ID: 27142624 11/14/2012 12:52 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27142624 Yeah, okay. But Benghazi is second only to Saudi Arabia for recruits,,., I'm just telling you what some of the skuttlebutt is, have no idea if there is truth to it or not. There is just talk that the USA was arming Al-Qaeda in Syria and Stevens and Petraeus knew about it. Not the CIA arming, we all know they work outside of what the White House even knows sometimes, but our actual Federal Government arming Al-Qaeda. Well you'd have to tell me what other agency was involved, and why the CIA would be out if the loop. From my reading, yes, Stevens was knowing about the Al Queda presence and was "warning" (unclassified) mails to the State Dept. Was he planning on investigating it on his own? That would have been rather dangerous... The CIA was not out of the loop and there was no other "agency" involved. They are saying our Administration was arming Al-Qaeda in Syria. Stevens knew about the problems with Al-Qaeda in BENGHAZI, LIBYA and I am talking about something completely different than BENGHAZI, LIBYA. No other agency involved, CIA making sure Al Queda doesnt get arms, but Administration was arming Al Queda directly. Okay.... How did the Administration do that? |