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Outland User ID: 19585845 United States 11/13/2012 09:02 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a great idea!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688150 I hope the Democrats have the balls to do it. It would mean the end of the irresponsible Bush tax cuts and automatic cuts to the bloated military. THEN bargain with the obstructionist assholes in the GOP from a position of strength. DO IT!!!!! Fucking |
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IssueX User ID: 14348632 United States 11/13/2012 09:07 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a great idea!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688150 I hope the Democrats have the balls to do it. It would mean the end of the irresponsible Bush tax cuts and automatic cuts to the bloated military. THEN bargain with the obstructionist assholes in the GOP from a position of strength. DO IT!!!!! be careful what you wish for |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 9648488 United States 11/13/2012 10:11 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | From the article: "That's why Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., and other Democrats have said their party's leaders should seriously consider letting the Jan. 1 deadline pass and then negotiate with Republicans under sharply different circumstances." So, other words, they want to hold the country hostage, bring it to its knees, break fingers on a mass scale, to force their way. "Murray's allies say voters would blame Republicans for refusing to yield" Yet, it is they who would be refusing to yield. "House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., showed no interest in challenging the fiscal cliff. "I want you to be disabused of any notion that there is any widespread thought that it would be a good thing, for our country, for us to go over the cliff," she told reporters Tuesday." Hmm. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22104307 United States 11/13/2012 11:08 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a great idea!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688150 I hope the Democrats have the balls to do it. It would mean the end of the irresponsible Bush tax cuts and automatic cuts to the bloated military. THEN bargain with the obstructionist assholes in the GOP from a position of strength. DO IT!!!!! Tax revenues went up after the 2003 Bush tax cuts you fucking idiot. The only thing "irresponsible" is the bloated government spending - driven by unsustainable entitlement programs passed by DEMOCRATS. |
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Anonymous Coward User ID: 22104307 United States 11/13/2012 11:44 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a great idea!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688150 I hope the Democrats have the balls to do it. It would mean the end of the irresponsible Bush tax cuts and automatic cuts to the bloated military. THEN bargain with the obstructionist assholes in the GOP from a position of strength. DO IT!!!!! Tax revenues went up after the 2003 Bush tax cuts you fucking idiot. The only thing "irresponsible" is the bloated government spending - driven by unsustainable entitlement programs passed by DEMOCRATS. The Bush tax cuts and Bush wars are responsible for 40% of the trillion dollar deficits we're running, moron. Who in the world is stupid enough to make massive tax cuts during expensive wars?? ONLY REPUBLIKANS! "Deficits don't matter." 40%? lol, you've never even looked at the budget numbers have you? You are so off it isn't even funny. |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 1493398 United States 11/13/2012 11:46 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a great idea!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688150 I hope the Democrats have the balls to do it. It would mean the end of the irresponsible Bush tax cuts and automatic cuts to the bloated military. THEN bargain with the obstructionist assholes in the GOP from a position of strength. DO IT!!!!! Tax revenues went up after the 2003 Bush tax cuts you fucking idiot. The only thing "irresponsible" is the bloated government spending - driven by unsustainable entitlement programs passed by DEMOCRATS. The Bush tax cuts and Bush wars are responsible for 40% of the trillion dollar deficits we're running, moron. Who in the world is stupid enough to make massive tax cuts during expensive wars?? ONLY REPUBLIKANS! "Deficits don't matter." We must go over the cliff u ignorant democunt... and stop lying about and blaming Bush for the 20 trill 0blama is racking up |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 25654386 United States 11/13/2012 11:49 PM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | That's a great idea!!! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27688150 I hope the Democrats have the balls to do it. It would mean the end of the irresponsible Bush tax cuts and automatic cuts to the bloated military. THEN bargain with the obstructionist assholes in the GOP from a position of strength. DO IT!!!!! Tax revenues went up after the 2003 Bush tax cuts you fucking idiot. The only thing "irresponsible" is the bloated government spending - driven by unsustainable entitlement programs passed by DEMOCRATS. The Bush tax cuts and Bush wars are responsible for 40% of the trillion dollar deficits we're running, moron. Who in the world is stupid enough to make massive tax cuts during expensive wars?? ONLY REPUBLIKANS! "Deficits don't matter." 40%? lol, you've never even looked at the budget numbers have you? You are so off it isn't even funny. The Pew Fiscal Analysis has looked at the budget numbers. I don't know what bullshit Rush Limbaugh has been telling you. Between 2001 and 2011, about two-thirds (68 percent) of the $12.7 trillion growth in federal debt has been due to new legislation. Forty percent of this legislative growth was the result of tax cuts enacted after January 2001, and 60 percent resulted from spending increases. [link to m.washingtonpost.com] |
Anonymous Coward User ID: 22104307 United States 11/14/2012 12:42 AM Report Abusive Post Report Copyright Violation | ... Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22104307 Tax revenues went up after the 2003 Bush tax cuts you fucking idiot. The only thing "irresponsible" is the bloated government spending - driven by unsustainable entitlement programs passed by DEMOCRATS. The Bush tax cuts and Bush wars are responsible for 40% of the trillion dollar deficits we're running, moron. Who in the world is stupid enough to make massive tax cuts during expensive wars?? ONLY REPUBLIKANS! "Deficits don't matter." 40%? lol, you've never even looked at the budget numbers have you? You are so off it isn't even funny. The Pew Fiscal Analysis has looked at the budget numbers. I don't know what bullshit Rush Limbaugh has been telling you. Between 2001 and 2011, about two-thirds (68 percent) of the $12.7 trillion growth in federal debt has been due to new legislation. Forty percent of this legislative growth was the result of tax cuts enacted after January 2001, and 60 percent resulted from spending increases. [link to m.washingtonpost.com] As I said, you are a fucking idiot. First of all you blame the wars and Bush's tax cuts on 40% of the debt THEN you show an article that includes spending increases/tax cuts enacted all the way through Obama's term in 2011! Do you get it now you fucking retard? And again, stupid shit like that from biased morons like Ezra Klein doesn't show you the hard numbers. Look at the actual tax revenues following Bush's 2003 tax cuts - revenues went UP every year until the housing bubble crash. So explain how rising tax revenues increases the debt you idiot. Again - look at the numbers: [link to www.taxpolicycenter.org] Notice spending goes UP by 500 billion when Obama takes office and revenues decrease 400 billion from the housing bubble crash. This is why I hate democrats. You people are so fucking ignorant and stupid it hurts. |