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Hey management wouldnt leave because of doom and not tell the rest of us ... ahhh, never mind.
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Wanted to say thanks for the karma I received.
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I do not know if this has been said, BUT>>>

it feels like the calm before the storm....you know there is tension...the election has pissed many off...people are still struggling on the east coast,

YET, it is too quiet...almost like everyone and everything is holding their breath...

you can feel it coming, just over the horizon, but you cannot hear it..too peaceful...waiting...

Do not let your guard down...it will come...not sure what IT will be, but it comes...silently....we are being stalked...

I know that sounds weird, but that is the only way I can describe it...

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What's going on you ask? I'll tell you what's going on. We are in the preliminary phases of the greatest financial catastrophe in the history of our planet. An upheaval that will make the Great depression look like a minor blip. The big one is coming and a lot of people are going to suffer immeasurable and often fatal consequences. People know it. People sense it. The only uncertainty is when it will hit full force. We know it will be soon but how soon? This is why you and so many others have palpable feelings of dread. You can sense it but there isn't a damned thing you can do to stop it.
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Is it just financial?

Cuz most of us can do without bucks, we've learned to survive on the cusp.

Or is it something deeper?
 Quoting: Turtles Voice

I believe it will start as a financial disaster and progress from there.

Under the guise of "maintaining law and order", rights we take for granted today will be stripped from us and a total police state will ensue.

We can already see an accelerating erosion of rights and freedoms in the last few years (NDAA for example) and the foundations of a tyrannical police state being laid. This is only going to get worse. Much, much worse.

Remember, we are talking about a collapse so severe it will turn the entire social order upside down. You say you'll "survive on the cusp" and no doubt there will be a few enterprising and well prepared individuals that will.

However, the vast majority of us are in for a world of hurt.

With the collapse of meaningful employment also accelerating of late, there are more and more people on the dole and it has gotten to the point where 47 million now people depend on government handouts to eat and keep a roof over their heads. Multiply this 47 million figure several times and what do you think happens when they're stripped of these entitlements and there's no food in the cupboard?

When people are hungry there is nothing they won't do to eat. There will be thefts, robberies, shootings, rapes, murders, prostitution and drug dealing on a scale never before seen or even contemplated. Unless you are heavily armed or have a safe hiding spot for you, your acquaintances, your family and your food, you will not have any food or even a roof over your head for that matter.

And don't think the police state will make more than a token effort to come to your rescue. They'll have their hands full putting down food riots, looters and insurrections.

By the way, Ohio, just this week has voted to reduce welfare benefits by $50 per month starting soon. This is just the tip of the 'entitlement roll back' iceberg. When will the full scale financial tsunami hit? It will hit when the government becomes totally insolvent and can no longer support the entitlement class. With a national debt that's growing by $40,000 per second it can't be too far off. As sure as night follows day it's coming.
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Great post!!

And yes, I know how to live on the cusp, but I also know most are still getting their nails done (and their toes, too).

As I said, great post, full of info if folks can hear it.
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We are entering a time unlike any other...satan/lucifer is being cast out of heaven to earth (Revelation 12:10). And when he gets here, he's going to be pissed! Thankfully, our accuser will not longer have God's ear at the Heavenly Council but the result is a very dark time for the inhabitants of earth.

Seek Jesus Christ while He may be found!
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I don't necessarily believe the anxious/nervous feelings that so many are reporting can be attributed solely to intuitive feeling of a future event. I think to a large extent the anxious feelings are also the result of the rising levels of consciousness that is impacting so many on a collective level. Emotional energy can be stored in the body much like memories. In the process of experiencing increasing levels of conscious awareness, the more negative (detrimental) and lower vibrational thoughts/emotions/feelings must be expelled from the body - only they must be consciously experienced on their way out. I see this phenomena more as a transitory phase whereby many are experiencing the temporary but gradual purging of certain types of stored emotional energy that has been a product of the type of society we have been living in. I suspect many of you will progress to a point where you find peace of mind within and are no longer experiencing this anxious, uneasy state which you are reporting to be in, now.

hf
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Oh Wow - I so agree with you. But couldn't have written it out so well. I do believe many people who are feeling so bad right now will have that anxious feeling leave them.

Turtle - your mother sounds like an amazing woman. And it's wonderful you have such a close relationship. Great post.

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Coolest photo ever, Sloane, made my heart smile hf

And yeah, Mommy rocks :)
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Been feeling this for awhile. It seems that there's something coming that's going to disrupt everything. Whether it's EMPs, either natural or man-made, earthquakes, or something I can't even comprehend-- something isn't the way it's always been.

I'd been needing to go see my sister for several months. She lives about 5 hours (driving time) away from me. I wanted to go see her, but was almost afraid to go. I kept wondering if I'd be able to walk all the way back home if something (see above) happened so that I couldn't drive home. Weird, huh?
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This is an interview from 2008/09. This woman by the name of Armanda Ramirez, spoke of an event coming this year. She said that souls will be reincarnating and that every person on the earth will feel this when it occurs. She however said that only conscious beings, 3/4 of the earth, will be able to make this transition and they will be chosen according to the level of their vibrations or consciousness. I want to assume that those having this kind of feeling are amongst the conscious ones she speaks of. There are also some other interesting things she speaks of such as the magnetic field reversal and that this field around the earth will be cleansed soon and that there will be snow, ice, floods and possibly a mini ice age. Its funny that what this woman says also resemble what the lady from Japan, Kaoru Nakamaru, says. For some reason, it seems that some people are being contacted about things to come and being given specific details of what will occur around this time. Chris Thomas approaches this subject from another angle and states that before the 21 Dec, 2012, there will be full soul integration across this globe and that 2/3s of the earth are ready on a soul level to make this transition. Its funny that he says the same thing Armanda Ramirez also states.....Just so much interesting stuff going on. Earlier on this year, there was a guy that goes by the name of San who also said he was contacted by these beings who told him that he should pass on a message to certain people. He said that those who live close to their hearts and are able to bring this forth in their lives will soon be contacted to create a new world. Just very fascinating stuff to hear from these people who are more or less saying the same things but due to the limitations of translations and their own vocabulary, they are slightly skewed but are the same nonetheless.

Here is the 2 part video.






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Been feeling this for awhile. It seems that there's something coming that's going to disrupt everything. Whether it's EMPs, either natural or man-made, earthquakes, or something I can't even comprehend-- something isn't the way it's always been.

I'd been needing to go see my sister for several months. She lives about 5 hours (driving time) away from me. I wanted to go see her, but was almost afraid to go. I kept wondering if I'd be able to walk all the way back home if something (see above) happened so that I couldn't drive home. Weird, huh?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27708534


This is an interview from 2008/09. This woman by the name of Armanda Ramirez, spoke of an event coming this year. She said that souls will be reincarnating and that every person on the earth will feel this when it occurs. She however said that only conscious beings, 3/4 of the earth, will be able to make this transition and they will be chosen according to the level of their vibrations or consciousness. I want to assume that those having this kind of feeling are amongst the conscious ones she speaks of. There are also some other interesting things she speaks of such as the magnetic field reversal and that this field around the earth will be cleansed soon and that there will be snow, ice, floods and possibly a mini ice age. Its funny that what this woman says also resemble what the lady from Japan, Kaoru Nakamaru, says. For some reason, it seems that some people are being contacted about things to come and being given specific details of what will occur around this time. Chris Thomas approaches this subject from another angle and states that before the 21 Dec, 2012, there will be full soul integration across this globe and that 2/3s of the earth are ready on a soul level to make this transition. Its funny that he says the same thing Armanda Ramirez also states.....Just so much interesting stuff going on. Earlier on this year, there was a guy that goes by the name of San who also said he was contacted by these beings who told him that he should pass on a message to certain people. He said that those who live close to their hearts and are able to bring this forth in their lives will soon be contacted to create a new world. Just very fascinating stuff to hear from these people who are more or less saying the same things but due to the limitations of translations and their own vocabulary, they are slightly skewed but are the same nonetheless.

Here is the 2 part video.





 Quoting: Ohwell


Here is San's video. try not to focus too much on his tattoos and what have you but the message.

[link to www.youtube.com]

Here is the link to his thread

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I do not know if this has been said, BUT>>>

it feels like the calm before the storm....you know there is tension...the election has pissed many off...people are still struggling on the east coast,

YET, it is too quiet...almost like everyone and everything is holding their breath...

you can feel it coming, just over the horizon, but you cannot hear it..too peaceful...waiting...

Do not let your guard down...it will come...not sure what IT will be, but it comes...silently....we are being stalked...

I know that sounds weird, but that is the only way I can describe it...

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Great post.

I believe you are correct.
"In order to arrive at what you are not,
You must go through the way in which you are not."

-TS Eliot

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OP, you've started a wonderful thread. Thank you for offering me something to read with some meat. Some real feelings mixed with people's thoughts.

My dread is overwhelming these days. My dread is for so many reasons I cannot count them. The most important are:

We have no clue who to believe. This world has become a place where many people say and do for personal gain. We are at a place in lifes path that we can depend on nobody but ourselves and our personal education and dicernment. I have no problem with being self reliant, but it is a lonely place.

When you can see truth all around you it is painful to know that you have been had for an eternity. We really need to stop looking back and live for today. We can only be prepared for anything and everything, watch the skies and earth and watch our Government to the best of our ability. Mayan Calendar? Who the heck knows what it really meant. Is it the end of the world? I don't believe that. I believe it is the end of an age and getting to the next might be damn rough.

Stock up - get prepared? I've done a good deal of prepping. I've had my eyes open for quite a few years now. I've been looking for that safe place for seven years. LOL....my first choice back then was the Virgin Islands. Yep...check out those quakes. Prior to that was Florida....Uh huh. A little while back I was considering the mountains of Virginia. I went there for a vacation, looked around and scouted out some caves. We decided to stop at the beach on the way back home to the north east. I was sitting on that beach when the big VA earthquake hit one day after I was in the very area of the quake seeking a safe haven. I finally got it. There was no safe place. Destiny is what it will be. If I and my family are meant to survive, we will. I will do my best to be prepared so that it will be easier to have less burden while making long term plans. No one knows for sure what we will need until we see what it is that will bring the house of cards down.

My faith in mankind is shot. Few people know how to love and my heart is constantly broken, seeing those that are so self centered taking center stage and the glory. I don't want glory. I just want to live among people who care about their neighbor, their elderly parents, the child who is neglected....you know the drill. I want to stop and breath without feeling I'll get caught with my pants down. I want a day without GLP...without feeling like I might miss important information about the next solar flair or explosion that is being covered up. I don't want to worry the entire country is going to go ka-boom from a huge sink hole in the Gulf, when the methane finally decides it's not going to give two shits about us.

And then I realize, I'm not going to get those things until it does happen. When it does, we will need each other and that will bring about the things this country lacks. I only hope I can find some great fellow GLPers to reminisce about the old times when it comes to pass.

All we can do now that the prepping is done....is live for today.
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OP, you've started a wonderful thread. Thank you for offering me something to read with some meat. Some real feelings mixed with people's thoughts.

My dread is overwhelming these days. My dread is for so many reasons I cannot count them. The most important are:

We have no clue who to believe. This world has become a place where many people say and do for personal gain. We are at a place in lifes path that we can depend on nobody but ourselves and our personal education and dicernment. I have no problem with being self reliant, but it is a lonely place.

When you can see truth all around you it is painful to know that you have been had for an eternity. We really need to stop looking back and live for today. We can only be prepared for anything and everything, watch the skies and earth and watch our Government to the best of our ability. Mayan Calendar? Who the heck knows what it really meant. Is it the end of the world? I don't believe that. I believe it is the end of an age and getting to the next might be damn rough.

Stock up - get prepared? I've done a good deal of prepping. I've had my eyes open for quite a few years now. I've been looking for that safe place for seven years. LOL....my first choice back then was the Virgin Islands. Yep...check out those quakes. Prior to that was Florida....Uh huh. A little while back I was considering the mountains of Virginia. I went there for a vacation, looked around and scouted out some caves. We decided to stop at the beach on the way back home to the north east. I was sitting on that beach when the big VA earthquake hit one day after I was in the very area of the quake seeking a safe haven. I finally got it. There was no safe place. Destiny is what it will be. If I and my family are meant to survive, we will. I will do my best to be prepared so that it will be easier to have less burden while making long term plans. No one knows for sure what we will need until we see what it is that will bring the house of cards down.

My faith in mankind is shot. Few people know how to love and my heart is constantly broken, seeing those that are so self centered taking center stage and the glory. I don't want glory. I just want to live among people who care about their neighbor, their elderly parents, the child who is neglected....you know the drill. I want to stop and breath without feeling I'll get caught with my pants down. I want a day without GLP...without feeling like I might miss important information about the next solar flair or explosion that is being covered up. I don't want to worry the entire country is going to go ka-boom from a huge sink hole in the Gulf, when the methane finally decides it's not going to give two shits about us.

And then I realize, I'm not going to get those things until it does happen. When it does, we will need each other and that will bring about the things this country lacks. I only hope I can find some great fellow GLPers to reminisce about the old times when it comes to pass.

All we can do now that the prepping is done....is live for today.
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Well and eloquently put!
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OP, you've started a wonderful thread. Thank you for offering me something to read with some meat. Some real feelings mixed with people's thoughts.

My dread is overwhelming these days. My dread is for so many reasons I cannot count them. The most important are:

We have no clue who to believe. This world has become a place where many people say and do for personal gain. We are at a place in lifes path that we can depend on nobody but ourselves and our personal education and dicernment. I have no problem with being self reliant, but it is a lonely place.

When you can see truth all around you it is painful to know that you have been had for an eternity. We really need to stop looking back and live for today. We can only be prepared for anything and everything, watch the skies and earth and watch our Government to the best of our ability. Mayan Calendar? Who the heck knows what it really meant. Is it the end of the world? I don't believe that. I believe it is the end of an age and getting to the next might be damn rough.

Stock up - get prepared? I've done a good deal of prepping. I've had my eyes open for quite a few years now. I've been looking for that safe place for seven years. LOL....my first choice back then was the Virgin Islands. Yep...check out those quakes. Prior to that was Florida....Uh huh. A little while back I was considering the mountains of Virginia. I went there for a vacation, looked around and scouted out some caves. We decided to stop at the beach on the way back home to the north east. I was sitting on that beach when the big VA earthquake hit one day after I was in the very area of the quake seeking a safe haven. I finally got it. There was no safe place. Destiny is what it will be. If I and my family are meant to survive, we will. I will do my best to be prepared so that it will be easier to have less burden while making long term plans. No one knows for sure what we will need until we see what it is that will bring the house of cards down.

My faith in mankind is shot. Few people know how to love and my heart is constantly broken, seeing those that are so self centered taking center stage and the glory. I don't want glory. I just want to live among people who care about their neighbor, their elderly parents, the child who is neglected....you know the drill. I want to stop and breath without feeling I'll get caught with my pants down. I want a day without GLP...without feeling like I might miss important information about the next solar flair or explosion that is being covered up. I don't want to worry the entire country is going to go ka-boom from a huge sink hole in the Gulf, when the methane finally decides it's not going to give two shits about us.

And then I realize, I'm not going to get those things until it does happen. When it does, we will need each other and that will bring about the things this country lacks. I only hope I can find some great fellow GLPers to reminisce about the old times when it comes to pass.

All we can do now that the prepping is done....is live for today.
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Oh my!!

What an incredible post. So insightful hf

I love you hearts

You got it and you are correct, there is no safe place and then I guess all we can do is trust and live.

Wow! You rock.
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whoa!!!!
n. shore of Mass. here. my husband and i have been monitoring this stuff up here as well.

have noticed the increase of respiratory illness in humans as well as farm animals as well.
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cool its a nice area! Its a shame if they are actually spraying us with chemtrails, anywhere is a shame to do it. I don't get why they do. I don't trust the local water anymore cause of it.
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Out of all the fantastic crap out there I think the theory about the Earth's core expanding or rotating is most likely. Maybe it is cooling and expanding.

I have zero proof for this, just a feeling or guess.

I think that may have been all those strange noises earlier this yr as well
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Entire countries are going broke. Some say the US is next. What happened in Greece will happen in the US. In Greece, the bankers basically run the country. They cut entitlements, raise taxes, and have lent money that can't be paid back. Loss of sovergnty is going on. I think the bankers are the NWO.
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Hey Turtles,

I was up in Duluth, MN this past weekend & the attitude of the population as a whole was different. Even different from when we were up there a month ago.

More impatient, less friendly, on edge.........

Certainly not like other times I've been up that direction.
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I have noticed this in people too. I live north of Boston, this area is known for cold people. But I know lots of nice people here too. But its been real different the past 2 years. Like you said people seem to be on edge, and I noticed they have no tolerance for other people. 1 example lighting off fireworks this past 4th of July. Some people riding by were yelling at us, just seemed really angry. Never have people been angry for that before. The cops are actually the nice people these days. :/
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OP, you've started a wonderful thread. Thank you for offering me something to read with some meat. Some real feelings mixed with people's thoughts.

My dread is overwhelming these days. My dread is for so many reasons I cannot count them. The most important are:

We have no clue who to believe. This world has become a place where many people say and do for personal gain. We are at a place in lifes path that we can depend on nobody but ourselves and our personal education and dicernment. I have no problem with being self reliant, but it is a lonely place.

When you can see truth all around you it is painful to know that you have been had for an eternity. We really need to stop looking back and live for today. We can only be prepared for anything and everything, watch the skies and earth and watch our Government to the best of our ability. Mayan Calendar? Who the heck knows what it really meant. Is it the end of the world? I don't believe that. I believe it is the end of an age and getting to the next might be damn rough.

Stock up - get prepared? I've done a good deal of prepping. I've had my eyes open for quite a few years now. I've been looking for that safe place for seven years. LOL....my first choice back then was the Virgin Islands. Yep...check out those quakes. Prior to that was Florida....Uh huh. A little while back I was considering the mountains of Virginia. I went there for a vacation, looked around and scouted out some caves. We decided to stop at the beach on the way back home to the north east. I was sitting on that beach when the big VA earthquake hit one day after I was in the very area of the quake seeking a safe haven. I finally got it. There was no safe place. Destiny is what it will be. If I and my family are meant to survive, we will. I will do my best to be prepared so that it will be easier to have less burden while making long term plans. No one knows for sure what we will need until we see what it is that will bring the house of cards down.

My faith in mankind is shot. Few people know how to love and my heart is constantly broken, seeing those that are so self centered taking center stage and the glory. I don't want glory. I just want to live among people who care about their neighbor, their elderly parents, the child who is neglected....you know the drill. I want to stop and breath without feeling I'll get caught with my pants down. I want a day without GLP...without feeling like I might miss important information about the next solar flair or explosion that is being covered up. I don't want to worry the entire country is going to go ka-boom from a huge sink hole in the Gulf, when the methane finally decides it's not going to give two shits about us.

And then I realize, I'm not going to get those things until it does happen. When it does, we will need each other and that will bring about the things this country lacks. I only hope I can find some great fellow GLPers to reminisce about the old times when it comes to pass.

All we can do now that the prepping is done....is live for today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26143620


Oh my!!

What an incredible post. So insightful hf

I love you hearts

You got it and you are correct, there is no safe place and then I guess all we can do is trust and live.

Wow! You rock.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


OP you are pretty damn wonderful yourself. Thank you for showing me that there is still hope in people...

I'm not kidding about the search for the safe place. It did happen that way. The best part of my Virginia trip was when we were visiting caves. I wanted to see how my daughter (five years with sensory processing disorder) would like it, she's such a little earth child and loves solitude and seclusion. Well she didn't like the caves, in fact she hated them. I had to rush her through to the end while my husband and sister explored. I had no idea until the next day that she might have been having a sense of danger of being underground with an impending earthquake.

Funny, now that I stopped looking, I'm in this little area of PA that seems to be protected...far enough away from the beach for tsunamis....far enough away from fault lines to survive a big eastern earthquake.

Some day soom we might want to consider a GLP list of people who are willing to help each other out when or if it's needed. I'd not find any better friends than the people who have their eyes open here.

Thank you again for providing a place to make me feel a little better tonight.
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Wow!

So much truth and love in this thread.

So much more than I expected.

Off to bed feeling a little lighter than I began.
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mother nature is what you feel

you feel the decaying of the earth...



and the rights that are slowly bing taken away from us, but right before our eyes.

you feel the old getting older and the uncertinty of our childrens and grand childrens future.

the changing of the government, the religion, the perverse and insane going to new hights to bring down our faith in ourselves and our fellow man.

you feel the dividing of our states, people and counrties.

Everything good is slipping away...and dividing.

And it truly is awful...
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11/14/2012 12:31 AM

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OP, you've started a wonderful thread. Thank you for offering me something to read with some meat. Some real feelings mixed with people's thoughts.

My dread is overwhelming these days. My dread is for so many reasons I cannot count them. The most important are:

We have no clue who to believe. This world has become a place where many people say and do for personal gain. We are at a place in lifes path that we can depend on nobody but ourselves and our personal education and dicernment. I have no problem with being self reliant, but it is a lonely place.

When you can see truth all around you it is painful to know that you have been had for an eternity. We really need to stop looking back and live for today. We can only be prepared for anything and everything, watch the skies and earth and watch our Government to the best of our ability. Mayan Calendar? Who the heck knows what it really meant. Is it the end of the world? I don't believe that. I believe it is the end of an age and getting to the next might be damn rough.

Stock up - get prepared? I've done a good deal of prepping. I've had my eyes open for quite a few years now. I've been looking for that safe place for seven years. LOL....my first choice back then was the Virgin Islands. Yep...check out those quakes. Prior to that was Florida....Uh huh. A little while back I was considering the mountains of Virginia. I went there for a vacation, looked around and scouted out some caves. We decided to stop at the beach on the way back home to the north east. I was sitting on that beach when the big VA earthquake hit one day after I was in the very area of the quake seeking a safe haven. I finally got it. There was no safe place. Destiny is what it will be. If I and my family are meant to survive, we will. I will do my best to be prepared so that it will be easier to have less burden while making long term plans. No one knows for sure what we will need until we see what it is that will bring the house of cards down.

My faith in mankind is shot. Few people know how to love and my heart is constantly broken, seeing those that are so self centered taking center stage and the glory. I don't want glory. I just want to live among people who care about their neighbor, their elderly parents, the child who is neglected....you know the drill. I want to stop and breath without feeling I'll get caught with my pants down. I want a day without GLP...without feeling like I might miss important information about the next solar flair or explosion that is being covered up. I don't want to worry the entire country is going to go ka-boom from a huge sink hole in the Gulf, when the methane finally decides it's not going to give two shits about us.

And then I realize, I'm not going to get those things until it does happen. When it does, we will need each other and that will bring about the things this country lacks. I only hope I can find some great fellow GLPers to reminisce about the old times when it comes to pass.

All we can do now that the prepping is done....is live for today.
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Oh my!!

What an incredible post. So insightful hf

I love you hearts

You got it and you are correct, there is no safe place and then I guess all we can do is trust and live.

Wow! You rock.
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OP you are pretty damn wonderful yourself. Thank you for showing me that there is still hope in people...

I'm not kidding about the search for the safe place. It did happen that way. The best part of my Virginia trip was when we were visiting caves. I wanted to see how my daughter (five years with sensory processing disorder) would like it, she's such a little earth child and loves solitude and seclusion. Well she didn't like the caves, in fact she hated them. I had to rush her through to the end while my husband and sister explored. I had no idea until the next day that she might have been having a sense of danger of being underground with an impending earthquake.

Funny, now that I stopped looking, I'm in this little area of PA that seems to be protected...far enough away from the beach for tsunamis....far enough away from fault lines to survive a big eastern earthquake.

Some day soom we might want to consider a GLP list of people who are willing to help each other out when or if it's needed. I'd not find any better friends than the people who have their eyes open here.

Thank you again for providing a place to make me feel a little better tonight.
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When that list of GLPers is being drawn up I hope my name can be on it. I can't think of a more insightful and aware group of people to have on my side when the storm hits.
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Those who beat their swords into plowshares usually end up plowing for those who kept their swords. -Benjamin Franklin
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11/14/2012 12:48 AM
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OP, you've started a wonderful thread. Thank you for offering me something to read with some meat. Some real feelings mixed with people's thoughts.

My dread is overwhelming these days. My dread is for so many reasons I cannot count them. The most important are:

We have no clue who to believe. This world has become a place where many people say and do for personal gain. We are at a place in lifes path that we can depend on nobody but ourselves and our personal education and dicernment. I have no problem with being self reliant, but it is a lonely place.

When you can see truth all around you it is painful to know that you have been had for an eternity. We really need to stop looking back and live for today. We can only be prepared for anything and everything, watch the skies and earth and watch our Government to the best of our ability. Mayan Calendar? Who the heck knows what it really meant. Is it the end of the world? I don't believe that. I believe it is the end of an age and getting to the next might be damn rough.

Stock up - get prepared? I've done a good deal of prepping. I've had my eyes open for quite a few years now. I've been looking for that safe place for seven years. LOL....my first choice back then was the Virgin Islands. Yep...check out those quakes. Prior to that was Florida....Uh huh. A little while back I was considering the mountains of Virginia. I went there for a vacation, looked around and scouted out some caves. We decided to stop at the beach on the way back home to the north east. I was sitting on that beach when the big VA earthquake hit one day after I was in the very area of the quake seeking a safe haven. I finally got it. There was no safe place. Destiny is what it will be. If I and my family are meant to survive, we will. I will do my best to be prepared so that it will be easier to have less burden while making long term plans. No one knows for sure what we will need until we see what it is that will bring the house of cards down.

My faith in mankind is shot. Few people know how to love and my heart is constantly broken, seeing those that are so self centered taking center stage and the glory. I don't want glory. I just want to live among people who care about their neighbor, their elderly parents, the child who is neglected....you know the drill. I want to stop and breath without feeling I'll get caught with my pants down. I want a day without GLP...without feeling like I might miss important information about the next solar flair or explosion that is being covered up. I don't want to worry the entire country is going to go ka-boom from a huge sink hole in the Gulf, when the methane finally decides it's not going to give two shits about us.

And then I realize, I'm not going to get those things until it does happen. When it does, we will need each other and that will bring about the things this country lacks. I only hope I can find some great fellow GLPers to reminisce about the old times when it comes to pass.

All we can do now that the prepping is done....is live for today.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26143620


Oh my!!

What an incredible post. So insightful hf

I love you hearts

You got it and you are correct, there is no safe place and then I guess all we can do is trust and live.

Wow! You rock.
 Quoting: Turtles Voice


OP you are pretty damn wonderful yourself. Thank you for showing me that there is still hope in people...

I'm not kidding about the search for the safe place. It did happen that way. The best part of my Virginia trip was when we were visiting caves. I wanted to see how my daughter (five years with sensory processing disorder) would like it, she's such a little earth child and loves solitude and seclusion. Well she didn't like the caves, in fact she hated them. I had to rush her through to the end while my husband and sister explored. I had no idea until the next day that she might have been having a sense of danger of being underground with an impending earthquake.

Funny, now that I stopped looking, I'm in this little area of PA that seems to be protected...far enough away from the beach for tsunamis....far enough away from fault lines to survive a big eastern earthquake.

Some day soom we might want to consider a GLP list of people who are willing to help each other out when or if it's needed. I'd not find any better friends than the people who have their eyes open here.

Thank you again for providing a place to make me feel a little better tonight.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26143620


When that list of GLPers is being drawn up I hope my name can be on it. I can't think of a more insightful and aware group of people to have on my side when the storm hits.
 Quoting: my 2 cents


We really should consider this so we can find people close by to reach out to in the event of a crisis. I wanted to help someone so bad during hurricane sandy, offer a place of refuge...I don't know. Just wanted to help, but there was little I could do. People just don't trust strangers these days with good reason.
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What is being felt is part of the grieving process. What are we feeling grief over? The death of privacy.

Nothing you do or say is private anymore. The most massive amount of data is being collected on individuals at this moment in time.

"To the victor goes the spoils."

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I think Sandy is just the tip of the iceberg.....

Lately I've been taking a close look at what my car needs. Will parts even be available in the near future? Battery still fine but 5.5 yr old so I replaced it.
Also bot spark plugs, air and oil filters, oil etc. I'll have the Blizzak snow tires put on in the next couple of days. I don't drive much anyway...

Get ready, I really believe something is getting ready to smoke this country...
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Great thread OP. Yes something is coming but please don't fear. We are all in this together and will get through it together! I had an awakening a few years back as I had little thoughts here and there of things just not being right. I even mentioned to my wife one day out of the blue, I said isn't it crazy to think about what would happen if the money system went haywire. This was as we sat in traffic thinking look at all these poor sob's going to work just to pay the bills(us included). It's absolutely astonishing how they have pulled the wool over the entire planets eyes and enslaved nearly all civilization! All held together by this thin thread of fiction we call "money". I love you all red_heart
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OP, something for you to read in the morning.

I read your original post and immediately was compelled to respond. The miracle was that by the time I finished my post, I had forgotten why i felt so much despair tonight.

Then I read your OP and remembered why I started my post crying like a baby.

Today, was the day my 79 year old mother moved into a full skilled nursing home to the worst case senerio - a dementia/Alzheimer's unit. This journey was on the top of my worst list. Six months ago my mother was great and living it up in her assisted living arrangement. She had a beautiful efficiency apartment and had more friends than ever. She was respected and loved and as her life was winding down, I felt wonderful that she was having such great experiences so late in her life.

Mom's story book life began to unravel a few month's ago when she started down the path of Louie Body Dementia. Louie Body Dementia is worse than most because a person has a sudden onset of dementia and it is a rapid descent. My mom went from being the pillar of her community to being out of her mind. It was so sudden that she was misdiagnosed with late onset schitzophrenia. Although this diagnosis was recinded/corrected, the stigma was still there and getting her into a skilled care nursing home has been awful.

She has been hospitalized for eight weeks - originally going to get her stablized on medication, which did not help her delusions. However, she could not be released from the hospital because she needed "nursing" home care due to this dementia and delusions. During this time, medication brought my mother back somewhat. I could have great conversations with her, like you described in your OP with your mom. The she would throw me a whammy with something out of the blue to remind me all would never be the same, like, "you know I'm getting married tomorrow - are you going to come?"

I was aprehensive about her going to this nursing home in a dementia unit. She can still physically care for herself, she is just batty as hell, actually she is pretty funny as her medications have stablized her mood beautifully. I just didn't think she fit in. When the process began today of moving her personal items, I started being told, one thing at a time that she could not have....her own sheets, her jewelry, the list kept mounting all day until all she would be allowed was her clothing. When they told me she could not use the colorful bedspread I brought for her bed I freaked out. They were stripping every part of my mother's dignity.

When I read your thread and OP, I was in tears trying to decide if I should go and get her in the morning and bite the bullet and bring her home with me. My husband and I spent the evening discussing this and I had not made a final decision. However, reading your OP and hearing about your mother, I realize a large part of my mother still exists and I want to help her to hold on to that dignity as long as she can. I think I will be bringing her home tomorrow and that nursing home can go pound sand. She is still a very valuable person and she needs to be allowed to be that for as long as she can, which includes wearing her darned jewelry when and if she wants.

So thank you for your thread. It gave me courage to do what I needed to do all along despite the medical world telling me what was best for my mother. She is the one who knows that better than anyone and she wants to come home with me and I will make that happen for as long as it is safe for her to be here. When and if the time comes that she is no longer safe and needs skilled nursing, I can let go. Meanwhile I'm going to spend some time with my mother and getting a kick out of her occasional reminders to me that she is delusional.....Hey maybe we'll have a mock wedding for her, maybe I'll take her for a drive and let her believe she is in the car she just won from QVC...LOL.

Thank you OP and please enjoy your wonderful mother.
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What are the four horsemen of the appcolyps?
War,famine, plaques and economic collapse.

Just as there are signs that spring, summer,fall,and winter are coming,there will be signs that the return of the lord is near.Great earth changes of all types.Earthquakes.,flooding, storms,drouts, general mayhem.Check. Wars and rumors of wars.Check.Potential for famine through drout and economic colapse.Check Different diseases that are showing up throughout the world not to mention the potential of a country like north korea who if attacked and was going to be elimated would have no problem releasing a bio weapon,check.

In my opinion all the pieces are in place and what we are feeling is the begining of the tribulation.Some will agree some will disagree.I liken this to a group of people in a tunnel that see a light some think its a train and some think its the end of the tunnel.We are all in this tunnel and we will all have to make a decission as to what to do.Some will turn back right away others will continue on at least so they can get a little closer to find out what that light is figuring they can turn around if need be .Good luck with that.Others will push ahead thinking its the end of the tunnel and even if its a train its not going to run me out of this tunnel. Just my take.
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