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Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...

 
Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2012 07:29 PM
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Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
Hello GLP!

I want to talk to you about Anonymous Cowards, and how not to be bait on the internet. Some of you may find we're not so bad, and others may realize maybe they could do with being a little more anonymous too.

I notice there's been a lot of hate around here towards GLP's Anonymous Cowards, especially lately in the wake of The Elections (aka Shillsmas, Shilladan, and Shillukah combined).

I can completely understand too, anyone can post as an AC which is precisely why nearly all trolls and shills are ACs. But even before that, I've seen many a debate on these threads abandon all logical arguments and default to "Well you're just a stinkin' AC, what's your opinion matter?"

Well, the answer to that is one of the two reasons many of us choose to be Anonymous Cowards in the first place.


1.) Because there is no identity or floating ego attached to our posts, our opinions are weighed, as they are, individually, with no room for ad hominem or personal attacks. Trolls live on ab hominem and personal attacks.

2.) As soon as you take on a handle, you start to leave a paper trail. A conspiracy forum is not a safe place to give out your name and address.

I know what you're thinking, 'Name and address? I'm not stupid, I'm not giving that away just by having a forum handle.'

Or are you? One of the things I do in my free time as a techie is identity protection. One thing people don't often realize is, if you can get the right piece of info, you can find out everything you want about a person by following the trail. It's very important that, if you do take on a handle, it can't be used to find your other activity on the net.

Let me take an example. This is by no means a how-to-steal-an-identity guide. The people who you have to worry about already know all this. I want you to know it, too.

First of all, any user with a mugshot is already in trouble if they want to stay safe. If you want to use a pic of yourself, make sure it's unique, not too crisp, and isn't taken from a photo on Facebook.
1.) Hacker takes your mugshot, uploads to Google Search.
2.) Google Search finds the pic you cropped your avatar from, be it your Myspace, Facebook, or Photobucket.
3.) From there hacker has your full name, and then your address, and then your phone number, and that is often sufficient to get the names of your families too.

Next, use a unique handle dammit!
1.) Hacker searches your forum name on Google
2.) Hacker finds your Youtube, or Myspace, or any other forum, gets your email address
3.) Hacker searches email addy, gets your Facebook and your name with it. And then address, etc.

Now, many of you already know the above already. Pay attention, we're still not out of the woods yet.

If you take a picture with your iPhone, copy and paste the image into a paint program before you upload! Pretty much any phone or camera with a built-in GPS stamps your coordinates into the image file when you take a picture.
1.) Hacker takes the picture of your dog/grandma/tomato plants you just uploaded
2.) Hacker reads the image metadata, giving them the coordinates of where you took the pic.
3.) Hacker punches those coords into Google Maps, and boom, they have your address and can probably describe your own front yard to you.

Now, that is by no means a complete list either. Let's face the facts, the Internet is chalk-full of trolls. A good number of them will order pizzas and fire trucks to your house if you piss them off enough. Many of us will go so far as to say there are agents on GLP looking to flag dissenters. Do you want to end up on a terror list because you have a controversial opinion? Neither do I.

Remember kids, the Internet is a scary place. You wouldn't wear around a name tag with your address and bank account numbers. Don't do it here either. Google yourself, your avatars, your handle. See what pops up. Change what needs changing so you can't be taken advantage of.

And remember GLP, while you can go ahead and take pains to create a unique user name, capture and upload a unique avatar photo, and make sure you can't be traced right back to Facebook, some of us simply find it easier to stay AC.

Stay safe. karate
Debauchery

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11/13/2012 07:33 PM

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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
I like a lot of the AC's. It's just that there are so many trolls.
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Redpaw360

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11/13/2012 07:36 PM
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Some of the best threads are from AC's....

It's just too bad there are so many that ruin it for others.
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Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/13/2012 07:45 PM
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I like a lot of the AC's. It's just that there are so many trolls.
 Quoting: Debauchery


I've frequented certain parts of the net where everyone is anonymous and almost everyone is a troll. They are a plague, but they do keep you sharp as well.

You're a good example of a safe forum presence. You don't use a mugshot, and nobody's going to find out a damn thing about you by googling 'debauchery' or even 'GLP debauchery'. But then again, I'm not gonna try too hard.

Digging up the personal info of people who reply, even as an example, might give the wrong impression. tounge
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11/13/2012 07:49 PM
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hf
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11/13/2012 07:54 PM
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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
also the fact that the karma system here is ridiculous.Ive seen how dysfuctional that type of system is on other forums.
leaving negative karma/rep with nameless comments and having thtis touted as something you get as a bonus when you become a member is sort of rank and something i personally want nothing to do with.
good points AC canada, many of my own sentiments.
I do agree with the troll aspect, but i know members can not log in, post as an AC to specifically troll someone without an reprise(or so they think, some are a bit sloppy and get called out)
also anyone can use a proxy and troll from a user number not attached to their account if they are a member.
also some of the members are a bit trollish, so its all meh.lol
cheers bud.
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/13/2012 08:09 PM
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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
also the fact that the karma system here is ridiculous.Ive seen how dysfuctional that type of system is on other forums.
leaving negative karma/rep with nameless comments and having thtis touted as something you get as a bonus when you become a member is sort of rank and something i personally want nothing to do with.
good points AC canada, many of my own sentiments.
I do agree with the troll aspect, but i know members can not log in, post as an AC to specifically troll someone without an reprise(or so they think, some are a bit sloppy and get called out)
also anyone can use a proxy and troll from a user number not attached to their account if they are a member.
also some of the members are a bit trollish, so its all meh.lol
cheers bud.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27699920


Yeah, I don't really appreciate the fact that members can (and do) subvert the entire karma system by only going anon to rate. Awfully hypocritical, since many of those are the same ones complaining about the ACs.

I'd create a safe handle if there was an account-only board, accessible only to free and paid accounts, so at least people would have to take responsibility for themselves.
Anonymous Coward
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11/13/2012 08:11 PM
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I swing both ways.

chuckle
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11/13/2012 08:12 PM
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bump
RayGun

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11/13/2012 08:27 PM

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What do you call two gay guys on a motorcycle?


AC and his uncle. s226
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11/13/2012 09:16 PM
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What do you call two gay guys on a motorcycle?


AC and his uncle. s226
 Quoting: RayGun


What do you call a registard who sucks dick?

RayGun.
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11/13/2012 09:39 PM

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What do you call two gay guys on a motorcycle?


AC and his uncle. s226
 Quoting: RayGun


What do you call a registard who sucks dick?

RayGun.
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Good one. tounge
Anonymous Coward (OP)
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11/13/2012 10:37 PM
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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
bumping once for the identity protection stuff, then I'll let er die if she wants to
StormeyGoddess

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11/13/2012 10:47 PM

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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
You know, all of us are going to go google ourselves now! :-) heheheehe
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11/13/2012 10:59 PM
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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
You know, all of us are going to go google ourselves now! :-) heheheehe
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


Good!! I'd reccomend googling yourself as often as it feels good. ;)

But seriously, it's a good thing to do every so often. You'd be surprised how much of a trail you leave just by joining a few websites. Pretend you're trying to dig up dirt on yourself, and you won't have any surprises down the road.
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11/13/2012 11:04 PM
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5* and suggest pin for your internet safety mindedness!

I must recall when CP had his own little internet stalker straight from Tepco's payroll after fukushima and that dude was posting CP's name, address, and all sorts of info. The interwebz is dangerous!!!!
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11/13/2012 11:17 PM
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You know, all of us are going to go google ourselves now! :-) heheheehe
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


I just hope if you're trying to be subtle, your name ain't Heather from Dayton, you're not blonde and you don't look good in a dress.

That's all I'm sayin', but it really is that easy. Could have gone for white pages too. I'd switch a few IDs around.
StormeyGoddess

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11/14/2012 03:36 PM

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You know, all of us are going to go google ourselves now! :-) heheheehe
 Quoting: StormeyGoddess


I just hope if you're trying to be subtle, your name ain't Heather from Dayton, you're not blonde and you don't look good in a dress.

That's all I'm sayin', but it really is that easy. Could have gone for white pages too. I'd switch a few IDs around.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27694035


Well, I certainly am not blonde. :-)
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Blue Skies

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11/14/2012 03:40 PM
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I have no problem with 90% of the AC's......The other 10%, well, they are just looking to cause havok. Those I ignore for the most part.
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StormeyGoddess

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11/14/2012 03:41 PM

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Point made, though...thanks for the rude awakening. Eeek!
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wtf is Moniker
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11/14/2012 03:42 PM
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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
Agreed. Ha. Only reason to have an account is to track your posts easier. But i figured out how to use the Adv. Search today lol.
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11/14/2012 03:45 PM
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Re: Don't talk shit about ACs! Why anonymous ain't so bad...
We aren't GAY like the paid members because we are AC's...(Anti Cocksuckers)!!!!!!!!