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Please consider both passages...


REVELATION 13:


The beast was given a mouth to utter proud words and blasphemies and to exercise its authority for forty-two months. 6 It opened its mouth to blaspheme God, and to slander his name and his dwelling place and those who live in heaven. 7 It was given power to wage war against God’s holy people and to conquer them. And it was given authority over every tribe, people, language and nation. 8 All inhabitants of the earth will worship the beast—all whose names have not been written in the Lamb’s book of life, the Lamb who was slain from the creation of the world.

9 Whoever has ears, let them hear.

10 “If anyone is to go into captivity,
into captivity they will go.
If anyone is to be killed[c] with the sword,
with the sword they will be killed.”[d]

This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.
THESE ARE THE RAPTURED SAINTS..



REVELATION 14:

The Three Angels

6 Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on the earth—to every nation, tribe, language and people. 7 He said in a loud voice, “Fear God and give him glory, because the hour of his judgment has come. Worship him who made the heavens, the earth, the sea and the springs of water.”

8 A second angel followed and said, “‘Fallen! Fallen is Babylon the Great,’[a] which made all the nations drink the maddening wine of her adulteries.”

9 A third angel followed them and said in a loud voice: “If anyone worships the beast and its image and receives its mark on their forehead or on their hand, 10 they, too, will drink the wine of God’s fury, which has been poured full strength into the cup of his wrath. They will be tormented with burning sulfur in the presence of the holy angels and of the Lamb. 11 And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name.” 12



This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.
THESE HAVE TO BE THE TRIBULATION SAINTS, WHO COME TO FAITH AFTER THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH..
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This calls for patient endurance and faithfulness on the part of God’s people.

THESE ARE THE RAPTURED SAINTS..



This calls for patient endurance on the part of the people of God who keep his commands and remain faithful to Jesus.

THESE HAVE TO BE THE TRIBULATION SAINTS, WHO COME TO FAITH AFTER THE RAPTURE OF THE CHURCH..
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Do you ever grow weary of guessing and wondering?
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A door was opened in heaven and a voice said "Come up here".
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Do you ever grow weary of guessing and wondering?
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I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do....
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rapture this butt



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Do you ever grow weary of guessing and wondering?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do....
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Wonderful...

I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does...

I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion.
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Do you ever grow weary of guessing and wondering?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do....
 Quoting: christian


Wonderful...

I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does...

I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Just using spiritual discernment as both scriptures in Revelation 13 and 14 call people of GOD at 2 different times to have Patient Endurance and faithfullness... We do know harder times are coming upon all of us...
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Do you ever grow weary of guessing and wondering?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do....
 Quoting: christian


Wonderful...

I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does...

I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Just using spiritual discernment as both scriptures in Revelation 13 and 14 call people of GOD at 2 different times to have Patient Endurance and faithfullness... We do know harder times are coming upon all of us...
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Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof. God takes care for the birds and the lillys. God will care for His own much more so.

May you be encouraged this evening By His Love and Power and protection.

God Bless.
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IT APPEARS THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ALL COME IN REVELATION 14.



The Bible repeatedly states that Tribulation Saints will face a strong likelihood of being martyred under the Antichrist's demonic rule. Many Tribulation Saints will have to pay the ultimate price and give their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. There are several passages that warn how rough it will be for Christians to endure the Tribulation:

"And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev 13:7).

"He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints" (Rev 13:10).

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Rev 13:15).

"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them" (Rev 14:12-13).

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Rev 20:4).

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I do not guess or wonder... I believe,I pray..I test spirits through spiritual discernment as GOD directs us to do....
 Quoting: christian


Wonderful...

I thought you might be guessing and wondering if this passage relates to what you think it does...

I see alot of that these days and it just leads to more confusion.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370


Just using spiritual discernment as both scriptures in Revelation 13 and 14 call people of GOD at 2 different times to have Patient Endurance and faithfullness... We do know harder times are coming upon all of us...
 Quoting: christian


Sufficient to the day is the evil thereof. God takes care for the birds and the lillys. God will care for His own much more so.

May you be encouraged this evening By His Love and Power and protection.

God Bless.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1194370




GOD BLESS YOU AS WELL...

hfhf
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Im sorry to tell ya dear, there is no rapture... we are at Revelation 17 just after the plague of hail and 3 years of darkness, now comes the war 42 months of great tribulation...

pray that your flight not be in winter!
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IT APPEARS THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ALL COME IN REVELATION 13.



The Bible repeatedly states that Tribulation Saints will face a strong likelihood of being martyred under the Antichrist's demonic rule. Many Tribulation Saints will have to pay the ultimate price and give their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. There are several passages that warn how rough it will be for Christians to endure the Tribulation:

"And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev 13:7).

"He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints" (Rev 13:10).

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Rev 13:15).

"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them" (Rev 14:12-13).

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Rev 20:4).
 Quoting: christian

Thank you you are correct...the delusion is this thing called a rapture that was man made in the early 1900 by a woman in a church...she was wrong. It states that after these things then shall you see the son of God coming in the clouds....After is the Key word...we are going to be here that why God is telling us ahead of time to be ready prepared and strong....

The delusion is that when the tribulation great events begin and christians are not take up in the "Rapture" they will fall away and lose thier faith....please remember this dont fall away when these things begin and your still here just know man was wrong but God's word is right and correct and strong...hold it in your heart so strong and look up because he will help us during it he is faithful to his children.
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you misinterpreted that completely Christian. There is no rapture, there is no church of Jesus. stop believing the thieving thugs who corrupted revelations completely, and left out 90% of the original. You can never make revelations work because most of it is missing and the rest corrupted. It even repeats itself in places.

One truth in it, is MIchael and His angles, but MIchael is NOT Michael the Arch Angel., It s MIchael of Nebadon, OUR Creator Son who came as Jesus. But he is NOT the Eternal Son 2nd person of the Trinity. There are 700,000 creator sons.
The actual Lord's Prayer Given by Jesus 2000 years ago.

"MY SPIRIT, YOU ARE OMNIPOTENT. YOUR NAME IS HOLY. MAY YOUR REALM BE INCARNATE IN ME. MAY YOUR POWER REVEAL ITSELF WITHIN ME, ON EARTH AND IN THE HEAVEN. GIVE ME TODAY MY DAILY BREAD, AND THUS, LET ME RECOGNIZE MY TRANSGRESSIONS AND ERRORS, AND I SHALL RECOGNIZE THE TRUTH. AND DO NOT LEAD ME INTO TEMPTATION AND CONFUSION, BUT DELIVER ME FROM ERROR. FOR YOURS IS THE REALM WITHIN ME AND THE POWER AND THE KNOWLEDGE FOREVER,
AMEN.

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you misinterpreted that completely Christian. There is no rapture, there is no church of Jesus. stop believing the thieving thugs who corrupted revelations completely, and left out 90% of the original. You can never make revelations work because most of it is missing and the rest corrupted. It even repeats itself in places.

One truth in it, is MIchael and His angles, but MIchael is NOT Michael the Arch Angel., It s MIchael of Nebadon, OUR Creator Son who came as Jesus. But he is NOT the Eternal Son 2nd person of the Trinity. There are 700,000 creator sons.
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go back to your other thread you hater...
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pray that your flight not be in winter!
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lol - also when you come down from your roof, don't stop to grab anything. Jebus was definitely speaking to us 2000 years later, and not the folks standing right there in His face when He issued these warnings, right?

=D
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you misinterpreted that completely Christian. There is no rapture, there is no church of Jesus. stop believing the thieving thugs who corrupted revelations completely, and left out 90% of the original. You can never make revelations work because most of it is missing and the rest corrupted. It even repeats itself in places.

One truth in it, is MIchael and His angles, but MIchael is NOT Michael the Arch Angel., It s MIchael of Nebadon, OUR Creator Son who came as Jesus. But he is NOT the Eternal Son 2nd person of the Trinity. There are 700,000 creator sons.
 Quoting: God Loves ALL


GOD has one BEGOTTEN SON and that is Jesus our Christ mwhich means GOD did not create Jesus Christ he is one with GOD..

GOD the Father
GOD the SON
GOD the Holy Spirit...


GOD is 1 not multiples...
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IT APPEARS THE TRIBULATION SAINTS ALL COME IN REVELATION 13.



The Bible repeatedly states that Tribulation Saints will face a strong likelihood of being martyred under the Antichrist's demonic rule. Many Tribulation Saints will have to pay the ultimate price and give their lives for their faith in Jesus Christ as Lord. There are several passages that warn how rough it will be for Christians to endure the Tribulation:

"And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations" (Rev 13:7).

"He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints" (Rev 13:10).

"And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed" (Rev 13:15).

"Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus. And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labors; and their works do follow them" (Rev 14:12-13).

"And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years" (Rev 20:4).
 Quoting: christian

Thank you you are correct...the delusion is this thing called a rapture that was man made in the early 1900 by a woman in a church...she was wrong. It states that after these things then shall you see the son of God coming in the clouds....After is the Key word...we are going to be here that why God is telling us ahead of time to be ready prepared and strong....

The delusion is that when the tribulation great events begin and christians are not take up in the "Rapture" they will fall away and lose thier faith....please remember this dont fall away when these things begin and your still here just know man was wrong but God's word is right and correct and strong...hold it in your heart so strong and look up because he will help us during it he is faithful to his children.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 14227947



I do believe in the RAPTURE...However how the rapture manifests itself I do not know..Meaning I do not believe we will fly in the air, of course we cannot in our physical flesh..Will we be taken by physical death and our spirit raptured? will we change in a twinkling of an eye that we will shed our mortal bodies into immortal ones, making us immune from human harm? will we be enveloped by some kind of magnetic cloud?

I do not know.....
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it is you are evil you spwew much judgment et anger vile perseon you!yakKatcha!!!
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it is you are evil you spwew much judgment et anger vile perseon you!yakKatcha!!!
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If you are expecting some to leave earth for heaven in glorified bodies it takes place at the end of the 1,000 year reign when God is sending Satan and the other fallen angels to the fiery lake.

Isa.51:6
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.
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I love ya Op but prepare yourself really bad times are coming! A very long war! Many will starve, Many will be killed by the sword! The location of Armageddon, where the eagles are gathered... thats right here in the USA!
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Another thread filled with man's OPINIONS about God's Word.

The Bible explains itself. It is its own expositor. The secret rapture is a human invention and not found anywhere in the Word of God.
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I love ya Op but prepare yourself really bad times are coming! A very long war! Many will starve, Many will be killed by the sword! The location of Armageddon, where the eagles are gathered... thats right here in the USA!
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Are you aware that you're part of the problem by spreading contrived BS?
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pray that your flight not be in winter!
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27521009


lol - also when you come down from your roof, don't stop to grab anything. Jebus was definitely speaking to us 2000 years later, and not the folks standing right there in His face when He issued these warnings, right?

=D
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He was speaking to BOTH, NOT EITHER/OR because prophecy has near fulfillments and far fulfillments. In 70a.d. it was partially fulfilled and since history repeats itself, it will happen again when the Man of Sin/Antichrist surrounds Jerusalem and the wise jewish remnant flee to the wilderness to be protected during the time of Jacob's trouble a.k.a .Great Tribulation).
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Cant say I believe this whole rapture deal. If anyone can back this up with scipture please do! Ive already studied it out but I may have missed something.

Also the rapture has never been apparent in scipture until just recently, it was not know about even 200 years ago to scholars. It was made popular with the left behind series in the 80's...
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I love ya Op but prepare yourself really bad times are coming! A very long war! Many will starve, Many will be killed by the sword! The location of Armageddon, where the eagles are gathered... thats right here in the USA!
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Are you considering these scriptures?


1st Corinthians 15:52
n a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.

Matthew 24:31 And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.


John 5:28 "Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice

1 Corinthians 15:23 But each in his own turn: Christ, the firstfruits; then, when he comes, those who belong to him.

1 Thessalonians 4:15 According to the Lord's own word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left till the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep.
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it will happen again when the Man of Sin/Antichrist surrounds Jerusalem and the wise jewish remnant flee to the wilderness to be protected during the time of Jacob's trouble a.k.a .Great Tribulation).
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Can't wait - totally holding my breath on this

rolleyes
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Cant say I believe this whole rapture deal. If anyone can back this up with scipture please do! Ive already studied it out but I may have missed something.

Also the rapture has never been apparent in scipture until just recently, it was not know about even 200 years ago to scholars. It was made popular with the left behind series in the 80's...
 Quoting: McMiller


Well we do know GOD does not appoint his saints to his wrath...


For God did not appoint us to suffer wrath but to receive salvation through our Lord Jesus Christ.

1 Thessalonians 1:10 and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead--Jesus, who rescues us from the coming wrath.


2 Timothy 2:10 Therefore I endure everything for the sake of the elect, that they too may obtain the salvation that is in Christ Jesus, with eternal glory.

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it will happen again when the Man of Sin/Antichrist surrounds Jerusalem and the wise jewish remnant flee to the wilderness to be protected during the time of Jacob's trouble a.k.a .Great Tribulation).
 Quoting: Morganite


Can't wait - totally holding my breath on this

rolleyes
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Well, I won't be holding my breath waiting for you to post scripture.lolsign
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'Rapture/Not Wrath for Christians' Theme In Scripture -

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tp://www.bcrevolution.ca/rapture_facts.htm

[link to unveilingthebride.com]


[link to www.bibleprophesy.org]
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