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North Dakota does not need Secession it did Something Better Years Ago!

 
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Too bad ND is a barren wasteland most of the year.
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Helps to keep out the riff raff.
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Too bad ND is a barren wasteland most of the year.
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Let the stampede to North Dakota begin!!!!!!!!


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Too bad ND is a barren wasteland most of the year.
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Let the stampede to North Dakota begin!!!!!!!!


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I wouldn't encourage a stampede if I were you. There is a major housing shortage because of the boom... and they have cracked down HARD on rogue RV parking. So unless u've been invited by an oil company willing to supply temporary housing... ur screwed. Winters are extremely harsh here... and if ur unprepared you wouldn't last a week. Ur chances of survival would be better if you went to Barrow, AK. Seriously.
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Too bad ND is a barren wasteland most of the year.
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Let the stampede to North Dakota begin!!!!!!!!


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I wouldn't encourage a stampede if I were you. There is a major housing shortage because of the boom... and they have cracked down HARD on rogue RV parking. So unless u've been invited by an oil company willing to supply temporary housing... ur screwed. Winters are extremely harsh here... and if ur unprepared you wouldn't last a week. Ur chances of survival would be better if you went to Barrow, AK. Seriously.
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Last I heard there was 400 apartments available in Dickinson. Although you'll be paying $1200 for a SMALL 1 bed studio. The price for a new house is pretty crazy. 10 years half will be empty. Word is most of the corporate guys ect are buying up property in Fargo / Grand Forks and just commuting for the weekend.
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I like to work, and cold weather is not a big deal
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Be careful. If north dakota is too successful, the unemployed hungry liberal hordes will descend like a swarm of locusts destroying everything around them.

That has been the pattern everywhere. They invaded CA from the northeast and from Mexico and then from CA they invaded the Pacific Northwest, Colorado and New Mexico.

Your bank and your freedoms will then be gone.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


Got some news for you. -45 F with -80 F windchill will shock them to the core. If you didn't grow up in that brutal climate, it's an extremely difficult adjustment. Plus which, the people in that part of the country won't put up with liberal hordes--guaranteed.
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I like to work, and cold weather is not a big deal
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Like to work is good, but if you think Romania is cold, you don't know North Dakota cold.
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Be careful. If north dakota is too successful, the unemployed hungry liberal hordes will descend like a swarm of locusts destroying everything around them.

That has been the pattern everywhere. They invaded CA from the northeast and from Mexico and then from CA they invaded the Pacific Northwest, Colorado and New Mexico.

Your bank and your freedoms will then be gone.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


Got some news for you. -45 F with -80 F windchill will shock them to the core. If you didn't grow up in that brutal climate, it's an extremely difficult adjustment. Plus which, the people in that part of the country won't put up with liberal hordes--guaranteed.
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Thank God there is a place where the liberals are far lesser
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Be careful. If north dakota is too successful, the unemployed hungry liberal hordes will descend like a swarm of locusts destroying everything around them.

That has been the pattern everywhere. They invaded CA from the northeast and from Mexico and then from CA they invaded the Pacific Northwest, Colorado and New Mexico.

Your bank and your freedoms will then be gone.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


Got some news for you. -45 F with -80 F windchill will shock them to the core. If you didn't grow up in that brutal climate, it's an extremely difficult adjustment. Plus which, the people in that part of the country won't put up with liberal hordes--guaranteed.
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Thank God there is a place where the liberals are far lesser
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There's a saying in that neck of the woods:

"Forty below keeps the riff-raff out."

It isn't just a saying.
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I like to work, and cold weather is not a big deal
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Like to work is good, but if you think Romania is cold, you don't know North Dakota cold.
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I could use to it. we had -22F last year. winter was a disaster last year...
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Too bad ND is a barren wasteland most of the year.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Let the stampede to North Dakota begin!!!!!!!!


bikeahhh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787


I wouldn't encourage a stampede if I were you. There is a major housing shortage because of the boom... and they have cracked down HARD on rogue RV parking. So unless u've been invited by an oil company willing to supply temporary housing... ur screwed. Winters are extremely harsh here... and if ur unprepared you wouldn't last a week. Ur chances of survival would be better if you went to Barrow, AK. Seriously.
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Spot on correct. Barrow, AK has some tempering effect from the Arctic Sea. Those Canadian Clipper arctic blasts that rip through the upper Great Plains are another level of hurt. It's American Siberia.
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yep it's fuckin cold up there especially the east side of the state. A whole different level of cold than say Chicago or Milwaukee.
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Too bad ND is a barren wasteland most of the year.
 Quoting: Super Bowl Dave


Let the stampede to North Dakota begin!!!!!!!!


bikeahhh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787


I wouldn't encourage a stampede if I were you. There is a major housing shortage because of the boom... and they have cracked down HARD on rogue RV parking. So unless u've been invited by an oil company willing to supply temporary housing... ur screwed. Winters are extremely harsh here... and if ur unprepared you wouldn't last a week. Ur chances of survival would be better if you went to Barrow, AK. Seriously.
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Last I heard there was 400 apartments available in Dickinson. Although you'll be paying $1200 for a SMALL 1 bed studio. The price for a new house is pretty crazy. 10 years half will be empty. Word is most of the corporate guys ect are buying up property in Fargo / Grand Forks and just commuting for the weekend.
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400 apartments??? Not true. Temporary man camps... outside city limits... for oilfield employees only. Several new motels. Homes around town have been rented/reserved by the oilfield for some upper crust employees who traverse the oilfield. They even have a brand new multi-million dollar corporate headquarters located in the area. But 400 available apartments is NOT TRUE.

NOTHING IS AVAILABLE TO NON-OILFIELD PERSONNEL around here anymore... and won't be for years to come.
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I like to work, and cold weather is not a big deal
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Like to work is good, but if you think Romania is cold, you don't know North Dakota cold.
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I could use to it. we had -22F last year. winter was a disaster last year...
 Quoting: TheRestless


That's a good start. -22F is still snowmobile weather. -40F and below is a punch in the face. It gets down to -65F in northern Minnesota, on the Iron Range.
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yep it's fuckin cold up there especially the east side of the state. A whole different level of cold than say Chicago or Milwaukee.
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True. The average Chicagoan would be stunned by how much colder. The really nasty thing is the wind chill; those arctic blasts roar for hundreds of miles, unchecked. It's not unheard of to get -100F wind chills in parts of North Dakota.
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I like to work, and cold weather is not a big deal
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Like to work is good, but if you think Romania is cold, you don't know North Dakota cold.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9395903


I could use to it. we had -22F last year. winter was a disaster last year...
 Quoting: TheRestless


That's a good start. -22F is still snowmobile weather. -40F and below is a punch in the face. It gets down to -65F in northern Minnesota, on the Iron Range.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 9395903


yeah, my grandfather told me that cold is the problem, the strong winds are the greatest problem, it can be a danger to anybody out there. He was a WW2 veteran and he been through some harsh winters
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sounds like commie bullshit to me.
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Commie bullshit, eh??? Spoken like a true commie shill.
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North Dakota also has a state mill

The mission of the North Dakota Mill is to promote and provide support to North Dakota agriculture, commerce and industry. Provide superior quality, consistency and service to our customers. Grow the business and provide a profit to our owners - the citizens of North Dakota. Conduct our business with the highest integrity so that our employees, customers, suppliers and owners are proud to be associated with the North Dakota Mill.

[link to www.ndmill.com]
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Excuse me, but North Dakota is still dealing in US Dollars right? Backed by absolutely nothing right? Infinitely inflatable right?... *cough*

Nothing to see here folks. Just a bunch of deluded individuals who believe they can beat the system whilst playing by the rules.
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It is no concident that the Dakota's were RED states. They don't need Federal govt overhead.
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Be careful. If north dakota is too successful, the unemployed hungry liberal hordes will descend like a swarm of locusts destroying everything around them.

That has been the pattern everywhere. They invaded CA from the northeast and from Mexico and then from CA they invaded the Pacific Northwest, Colorado and New Mexico.

Your bank and your freedoms will then be gone.
 Quoting: SevenThunders


That's not going to happen. North Dakota is too cold in the winter. The useless eaters don't want to get cold. You can't live under a bridge at 40 below. When I lived in Carpio, the bums didn't even come through in the summer time. I don't know if they were afraid of the weather or the mosquitoes. An insect with a tail number is a sight to see.

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Let the stampede to North Dakota begin!!!!!!!!


bikeahhh
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27229787


I wouldn't encourage a stampede if I were you. There is a major housing shortage because of the boom... and they have cracked down HARD on rogue RV parking. So unless u've been invited by an oil company willing to supply temporary housing... ur screwed. Winters are extremely harsh here... and if ur unprepared you wouldn't last a week. Ur chances of survival would be better if you went to Barrow, AK. Seriously.
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Last I heard there was 400 apartments available in Dickinson. Although you'll be paying $1200 for a SMALL 1 bed studio. The price for a new house is pretty crazy. 10 years half will be empty. Word is most of the corporate guys ect are buying up property in Fargo / Grand Forks and just commuting for the weekend.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 22345387


400 apartments??? Not true. Temporary man camps... outside city limits... for oilfield employees only. Several new motels. Homes around town have been rented/reserved by the oilfield for some upper crust employees who traverse the oilfield. They even have a brand new multi-million dollar corporate headquarters located in the area. But 400 available apartments is NOT TRUE.

NOTHING IS AVAILABLE TO NON-OILFIELD PERSONNEL around here anymore... and won't be for years to come.
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Born in Grand Forks and have been working out of Dickinson for over a year. It might not be 400 (heard through the grape vine) but people aren't willing to pay the rent for a studio. And it does take sometime to sell the houses. $250,000 - $300,000 for just over 1500 sq ft is kind of a shock for most people in the state. South West North Dakota seems to have slowed abit since this summer. Williston/Tioga/Watford City/New Town are still balls to the wall.
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Too bad ND is a barren wasteland most of the year.
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Let the stampede to North Dakota begin!!!!!!!!


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"With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth

And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address

Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."
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The Bank of ND farce as a solution to the nations problem has been going on for awhile. For a good portion of the life of The B of ND, it was a money pit. It cost more to run then to operate. Second, money is NOT given back to the citizens. We may get a slightly better rate on a loan but, it is the credit guidelines are far more strict.

As far as rentals in Dickinson, I own a few properties. A trailer will easily rent for 2500 month in town, and 2000 in the surrounding communties all the way out to hettinger and morton counties.
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The state-owned Bank of North Dakota

Fiscal conservatives often are blind when it comes to alternatives to the "so called" commercial banking system. Many conventional Republicans are ignorant or simply carrying the water for the crony capitalist banking establishment. The fractional reserve banking monopoly that operates under the auspices of the privately owned Federal Reserve System, despises any trace of competition. The bondage from debt created money has doomed Main Street to the fate of contrite beggars in search of securing loans. Useful purposes for business financing are not sufficient reason for the qualifying for commercial credit.
Is there an alternative to the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. and centralized banking dominated by Wall Street investment banksters? Can state chartered commercial banks compete separate from the favoritism shown to the "Not Too Big To Fail" money centered banks? Well, Ellen Hodjson Brown JD, has popularized the subject of the state-owned bank and believes there is a better model for community banking.

"The secret of its success seems to be the state-owned Bank of North Dakota, which was established by the state legislature in 1919 specifically to free farmers and small businessmen from the clutches of out-of-state bankers and railroad men. By law, the state must deposit all its funds in the bank, and the state guarantees its deposits. The bank’s stated mission is to deliver sound financial services that promote agriculture, commerce and industry in North Dakota. The bank operates as a bankers’ bank, partnering with private banks to loan money to farmers, real estate developers, schools and small businesses. It loans money to students (over 184,000 outstanding loans), and it purchases municipal bonds from public institutions."

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"With an eye made quiet by the power of harmony and the deep power of joy, we see into the life of things." William Wordsworth

And yet the same revolutionary beliefs for which our forebears fought are still at issue around the globe—the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God.

John F. Kennedy Inaugural Address

Lincoln's economic advisor Henry C. Carey explained the universal issue in his 1851 Harmony of Interests:

"Two systems are before the world.... One looks to pauperism, ignorance, depopulation, and barbarism; the other to increasing wealth, comfort, intelligence, combination of action, and civilization. One looks towards universal war; the other towards universal peace. One is the English system; the other ... the American system, for ... elevating while equalizing the condition of man throughout the world."