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For gawd's sake...stop the fear mongering.


The "now the gov't knows who you are and are gonna git ya" scare tactic is gettig old.


The American people have the fricken right to voice their concerns. And if they sign a petition to "peacefully secede," they have that right to do so. At least for now they do.
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It's funny...I hate all politicians regardless of their party affiliation. However, at the same time, it would definitely appear that the losers this time around are FAR more immature.

It would be far easier for you just to leave the country/move if you hate it here so much. Stop being whiny bitches and take control of your life if you think the government is controlling it too much. You DO have the power to leave. You could immigrate to another place.
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Why should we leave when we haven't done anything illegal? Obama has done several things worthy of life imprisonment. Since he claims that he has a right to do as he wishes, then the good people of this country demand the right to form our own country for the good of the people. We refuse to live in our country that is ruled by a dictator that has NO interest in obeying the Constitution of the United States!
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You should fly a certain flag at your house if you want to secede. That way, us patriots know which houses to go after. Go 4th amendment!
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Why should we leave when we haven't done anything illegal? Obama has done several things worthy of life imprisonment. Since he claims that he has a right to do as he wishes, then the good people of this country demand the right to form our own country for the good of the people. We refuse to live in our country that is ruled by a dictator that has NO interest in obeying the Constitution of the United States!
 Quoting: 071676


please read the thread

the US Constitution was dissolved in 1871
when Grant signed the Act of 1871.

this is exactly why Clinton remarked
during a press conference during his
administration that

there is a government within this government
that I have no control over


and exactly why Bush stated

the Constitution is just a damn
piece of paper.


read between the lines to understand
WHY these presidents said what they did.

they left you clues in plain site.
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They are just forming a Nixon style enemy list. Better hope your IRS filings are correct. Even if they are,they can still mess with you.
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Don't forget, IRS = Obamacare = Death Panels.

Obamacare was always about control.
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Why should we leave when we haven't done anything illegal? Obama has done several things worthy of life imprisonment. Since he claims that he has a right to do as he wishes, then the good people of this country demand the right to form our own country for the good of the people. We refuse to live in our country that is ruled by a dictator that has NO interest in obeying the Constitution of the United States!
 Quoting: 071676


please read the thread

the US Constitution was dissolved in 1871
when Grant signed the Act of 1871.

this is exactly why Clinton remarked
during a press conference during his
administration that

there is a government within this government
that I have no control over


and exactly why Bush stated

the Constitution is just a damn
piece of paper.


read between the lines to understand
WHY these presidents said what they did.

they left you clues in plain site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


and this is also the reason why Congress
can pass laws which bypass the Constitution.
Anonymous Coward
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I am an Honorably Discharged Veteran of THESE united States...Whom do you think OR Believe is going to "strip" me of my Citizenship? Just in case YOU think I said my Oath of Honor backwards when I Detached.......WELL....you are wrong.
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They are just forming a Nixon style enemy list. Better hope your IRS filings are correct. Even if they are,they can still mess with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 325701

Well, you go on and just keep hiding in the ground; waiting for your "Red Dawn" moment. I don't plan on letting things get that out of hand before I do something to slow this out-of-control horse down.
 Quoting: Éireann


before you start your battles
please be sure you know who
the real enemy is.

any progression toward another
objective is a wasted resource.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941

That made zero sense.
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They are just forming a Nixon style enemy list. Better hope your IRS filings are correct. Even if they are,they can still mess with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 325701

Well, you go on and just keep hiding in the ground; waiting for your "Red Dawn" moment. I don't plan on letting things get that out of hand before I do something to slow this out-of-control horse down.
 Quoting: Éireann


before you start your battles
please be sure you know who
the real enemy is.

any progression toward another
objective is a wasted resource.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941

That made zero sense.
 Quoting: Éireann


any progress made against a false enemy
is a waste of time and manpower

and they will give you a false enemy
in a heart beat.

Hitler was one

Bin Laden was another
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Why should we leave when we haven't done anything illegal? Obama has done several things worthy of life imprisonment. Since he claims that he has a right to do as he wishes, then the good people of this country demand the right to form our own country for the good of the people. We refuse to live in our country that is ruled by a dictator that has NO interest in obeying the Constitution of the United States!
 Quoting: 071676


please read the thread

the US Constitution was dissolved in 1871
when Grant signed the Act of 1871.

this is exactly why Clinton remarked
during a press conference during his
administration that

there is a government within this government
that I have no control over


and exactly why Bush stated

the Constitution is just a damn
piece of paper.


read between the lines to understand
WHY these presidents said what they did.

they left you clues in plain site.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


And that means exactly what to the adverage American? That the President is a nobody, has no power, can not do anything, or that he doesn't give a damn about what is going on as long as he gets what he wants and calls it anything he wants.

I do not buy the bullshit that the president does NOT have any real power. If he had no power, then he could by all rights then allow each and every state remove themselves from this country. Who could stop him? The military is bound to follow his dictates, not any other person.

Or is the President so much of a fucking coward that he refuses to stand up for what is right, and put his life above the good of the country. So what if they have him killed? The next person stands up and gives their life for what is right. The fact that you continue to believe that the president has no right or power, only gives proof that you are a coward, just as much as the President, if he refuses to put his life on the line for the good of the country!
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Time to get some numbers on how many gov't officials are supporting these petitions (locally).

Find out if members of your local gov have signed? Maybe then it will become more then just a joke.
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It's funny...I hate all politicians regardless of their party affiliation. However, at the same time, it would definitely appear that the losers this time around are FAR more immature.

It would be far easier for you just to leave the country/move if you hate it here so much. Stop being whiny bitches and take control of your life if you think the government is controlling it too much. You DO have the power to leave. You could immigrate to another place.
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If you want to live in a two bit dictatorship, move to North Korea. This is our country, and we want it the way it was meant to be.
Scram lumpy, and go play with your Red friends.
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bump
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It's funny...I hate all politicians regardless of their party affiliation. However, at the same time, it would definitely appear that the losers this time around are FAR more immature.

It would be far easier for you just to leave the country/move if you hate it here so much. Stop being whiny bitches and take control of your life if you think the government is controlling it too much. You DO have the power to leave. You could immigrate to another place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26206162


See - we will take our State with us. Another lib falsehood - you own the States.

As soon as one goes - many others will follow.

Not 'moving' for YOUR convenience - there is a consequence to the movement and that is an entire State leaves the union.

FO libtard
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They are just forming a Nixon style enemy list. Better hope your IRS filings are correct. Even if they are,they can still mess with you.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 325701

Well, you go on and just keep hiding in the ground; waiting for your "Red Dawn" moment. I don't plan on letting things get that out of hand before I do something to slow this out-of-control horse down.
 Quoting: Éireann


before you start your battles
please be sure you know who
the real enemy is.

any progression toward another
objective is a wasted resource.

 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941

That made zero sense.
 Quoting: Éireann


No, that made perfect sense.
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And that means exactly what to the adverage American? That the President is a nobody, has no power, can not do anything, or that he doesn't give a damn about what is going on as long as he gets what he wants and calls it anything he wants.

 Quoting: 071676


you have to understand that the President
is not a President of a nation.

He is a President of a Corporation.
The US was incorporated in 1871 and
every election since, the President
has been a puppet.

Stockholders of a corporation appoint
a President, he is not elected by
subsidiary corporations which we
all are.

some Presidents get elected to find this
out and try to change it like JFK

and then he is disposed of and another
puppet takes his place like Johnson did.

the President serves at the will of
the Stockholders.

the Stockholders are Vatican Bankers.

we do not live a Republic anymore.

if you want your Republic back,
you will have to fight for it.
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And that means exactly what to the adverage American? That the President is a nobody, has no power, can not do anything, or that he doesn't give a damn about what is going on as long as he gets what he wants and calls it anything he wants.

 Quoting: 071676


you have to understand that the President
is not a President of a nation.

He is a President of a Corporation.
The US was incorporated in 1871 and
every election since, the President
has been a puppet.

Stockholders of a corporation appoint
a President, he is not elected by
subsidiary corporations which we
all are.

some Presidents get elected to find this
out and try to change it like JFK

and then he is disposed of and another
puppet takes his place like Johnson did.

the President serves at the will of
the Stockholders.

the Stockholders are Vatican Bankers.

we do not live a Republic anymore.

if you want your Republic back,
you will have to fight for it.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


Bullshit! Cut the strings asshole and feel the presence of freedom!

What are the corporations going to do? Stop selling us useless baubles that we don't need? Kill off the President? Start a war? What would happen if they started a war and no one joined? What the hell do you seriously think would happen if the world told the corporations to go to hell; that you are mad as hell and not going to take it anymore? Do you really think they are going to kill the hand that feeds them? Or are you so much of a coward that thinks that their life is worth more than the world? Prove that you have a right to live. Stand up and show that you mean something! Don't coward in the dark corner because of some contrived bullshit that got started to control you. Stand up and be counted as a person that cares! Failure is not an option!
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What would happen if they started a war and no one joined?
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this is why they create false flags.

false flags creates the will of the
masses to support the enemy they give
to them.

9/11 was a prime example

and the new Boogey man was Bin Laden
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What would happen if they started a war and no one joined?
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this is why they create false flags.

false flags creates the will of the
masses to support the enemy they give
to them.

9/11 was a prime example

and the new Boogey man was Bin Laden
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


this was the whole concept behind
the engineering of the false flag
called Operation Blackjack.

an attack on US Soil would give them
the mass support to wage war on an
enemy of their choosing.

even if that enemy was domestic
in origin
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What would happen if they started a war and no one joined?
 Quoting: 071676


this is why they create false flags.

false flags creates the will of the
masses to support the enemy they give
to them.

9/11 was a prime example

and the new Boogey man was Bin Laden
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


Then you really have no interest in trying the change the world for the better. YOU are the sheep that helps perpetrate the corporation's control.

False flags are now so expected that they are seen long before they actually happen. No one believes the bullshit anymore. That is why the great fear of the corporations come back to haunt those that choose to believe. You have become so afraid of the dark that you curse the sun for leaving.
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What would happen if they started a war and no one joined?
 Quoting: 071676


this is why they create false flags.

false flags creates the will of the
masses to support the enemy they give
to them.

9/11 was a prime example

and the new Boogey man was Bin Laden
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


Then you really have no interest in trying the change the world for the better. YOU are the sheep that helps perpetrate the corporation's control.

False flags are now so expected that they are seen long before they actually happen. No one believes the bullshit anymore. That is why the great fear of the corporations come back to haunt those that choose to believe. You have become so afraid of the dark that you curse the sun for leaving.
 Quoting: 071676


071676, you attack this other poster with ad hominems, attempt to marginalize his comment by classifying him as a sheep, misdirect with a crack about corporate fascism and then spend a paragraph trying to dissect the concept of false flag attacks with the effect of muddying the issue and basically casting false doubt on the poster's claims.

Since everything he said is true and since the majority of Americans do not yet know these facts, why obfuscate here?
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Then you really have no interest in trying the change the world for the better. YOU are the sheep that helps perpetrate the corporation's control.
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your assessment of my intentions
are incorrect.

I am here to educate those who are
ignorant of the real strings that
make us debt slaves. I have been
brutally honest in every post.

My whole desire is to see America
a Republic before I die so my children
can be truly free from financial tyranny.
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It's funny...I hate all politicians regardless of their party affiliation. However, at the same time, it would definitely appear that the losers this time around are FAR more immature.

It would be far easier for you just to leave the country/move if you hate it here so much. Stop being whiny bitches and take control of your life if you think the government is controlling it too much. You DO have the power to leave. You could immigrate to another place.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 26206162

Exactly

Fools waste their lives away thinking that they have some kind of control or involvement in these things.

In terms of how short their lifespan is, and if they are not career politicians, well they don't.

The thing that most any person can do to "change" things most distinctly and quickly, is to move.

U.S. citizens used to be known as world travelers. Not anymore. The US propaganda machine is turned on high now to discourage people from traveling too. TPTB want you to stay and "fight it out". Ha! right!

Life is short for an individual. TPTB have the advantage of time, because they are not an individual, they are a meme, and memes usually last far longer than any of us ever will.
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What would happen if they started a war and no one joined?
 Quoting: 071676


this is why they create false flags.

false flags creates the will of the
masses to support the enemy they give
to them.

9/11 was a prime example

and the new Boogey man was Bin Laden
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


Then you really have no interest in trying the change the world for the better. YOU are the sheep that helps perpetrate the corporation's control.

False flags are now so expected that they are seen long before they actually happen. No one believes the bullshit anymore. That is why the great fear of the corporations come back to haunt those that choose to believe. You have become so afraid of the dark that you curse the sun for leaving.
 Quoting: 071676


071676, you attack this other poster with ad hominems, attempt to marginalize his comment by classifying him as a sheep, misdirect with a crack about corporate fascism and then spend a paragraph trying to dissect the concept of false flag attacks with the effect of muddying the issue and basically casting false doubt on the poster's claims.

Since everything he said is true and since the majority of Americans do not yet know these facts, why obfuscate here?
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27636366


Why, because instead of doing something to actually help the country, they go around and exclaim that nothing can be done because it it all out of our control. The control has never left our hands, but the perception that only the corporations have control has become the byword to any that dare challenge the corporations. Instead of expounding on how great the corporations are, shouldn't we be trying to establish just how great WE are, and the scope of our rights, and the power we control.

We can not regain control by complaining about how much we might lose by taking back our control.
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Why, because instead of doing something to actually help the country, they go around and exclaim that nothing can be done because it it all out of our control.
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I have already told you what needs
to be done in this thread if you had
taken the time to read it all.

in order to get America back,
it will require a Revolution
from the masses and then
repeal the Act of 1871
which incorporated the US
and turned it into the property
of the Vatican.

and I also told you exactly how they
will counter that move

they will start a world war

so don't lose sight of the true
objectives when the false flags
erupt, it will be a total distraction
for the masses. stay focused.
071676

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Why, because instead of doing something to actually help the country, they go around and exclaim that nothing can be done because it it all out of our control.
 Quoting: 071676


I have already told you what needs
to be done in this thread if you had
taken the time to read it all.

in order to get America back,
it will require a Revolution
from the masses and then
repeal the Act of 1871
which incorporated the US
and turned it into the property
of the Vatican.

and I also told you exactly how they
will counter that move

they will start a world war

so don't lose sight of the true
objectives when the false flags
erupt, it will be a total distraction
for the masses. stay focused.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


And as I have said on many occasions, revolution only feeds the corporations. The corporations live off of distruction.

Fight them peacefully, but fight them all the time. Never give up. Force Congress to make change. Force the president to stand up for what is right for this country. Become a thorn to the president, congress, to the very corporations.

The best way to do that is to pay attention. False flags mean nothing, that is why they are FALSE FLAGS. If they want to start a war, ride Congress's ass until they refuse to accept it. If they don't, kick them out and replace them with ones that will. Don't tell me that it can't be done.

The thing I have yet to understand about the younger (I know I am older, but young means anyone under 40) people in the world. Don't make waves, don't cause problems, don't disagree, don't stand out. This mentality has created a world ripe for corporation control. Let no one be different, but condemn those that are. This is what the corporations feed on, and the world is spooning it as fast as they can.

I can accept your ideas about staying focused. I have said that for years. But it is not being focused when you say that it is the corporations the control, when the control is really in our hands. Just because we have billions that would rather be a slave than a worker, doesn't mean that we don't have the right of control.
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And as I have said on many occasions, revolution only feeds the corporations. The corporations live off of distruction.
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the Bolshevik Revolution was partially
fought with axes, pitchforks and grain
cultivators.

no purchase required

mainly because the guns were confiscated
before it started.
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And as I have said on many occasions, revolution only feeds the corporations. The corporations live off of distruction.
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the Bolshevik Revolution was partially
fought with axes, pitchforks and grain
cultivators.

no purchase required

mainly because the guns were confiscated
before it started.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27724941


But it still fed the corporations. Maybe not in Russia as much as the rest of the world. But it still fed the corporations. Once the "Reds" won their war, they needed tons of money from Europe and America to rebuild the country in their own style. Russia couldn't afford to do it. They couldn't afford to buy bread. Of course, this only added to the corporations later during war and the cold war, but that is getting off the line.

To defeat the corporations, it must be done legally. Any fighting, war, threat of war, only feed the corporations. Use legal means of force to force the President and Congress to address this. Revolution doesn't do it. Any politician has one major fear. That is being kicked out of office. Use their fear to end yours. The more you create, the less the corporations can control.
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But it still fed the corporations. Maybe not in Russia as much as the rest of the world. But it still fed the corporations. Once the "Reds" won their war, they needed tons of money from Europe and America to rebuild the country in their own style. Russia couldn't afford to do it. They couldn't afford to buy bread. Of course, this only added to the corporations later during war and the cold war, but that is getting off the line.

To defeat the corporations, it must be done legally. Any fighting, war, threat of war, only feed the corporations. Use legal means of force to force the President and Congress to address this. Revolution doesn't do it. Any politician has one major fear. That is being kicked out of office. Use their fear to end yours. The more you create, the less the corporations can control.
 Quoting: 071676


you are disillusioned my friend

the corporations are not the worst enemy here.
the Vatican Bankers who control the money supply are.
You will have to prioritize your objectives.

and there is no way to legally repeal
the Act of 1871. The current regime
in Washington DC will never allow it
to happen.
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But it still fed the corporations. Maybe not in Russia as much as the rest of the world. But it still fed the corporations. Once the "Reds" won their war, they needed tons of money from Europe and America to rebuild the country in their own style. Russia couldn't afford to do it. They couldn't afford to buy bread. Of course, this only added to the corporations later during war and the cold war, but that is getting off the line.

To defeat the corporations, it must be done legally. Any fighting, war, threat of war, only feed the corporations. Use legal means of force to force the President and Congress to address this. Revolution doesn't do it. Any politician has one major fear. That is being kicked out of office. Use their fear to end yours. The more you create, the less the corporations can control.
 Quoting: 071676


you are disillusioned my friend

the corporations are not the worst enemy here.
the Vatican Bankers who control the money supply are.
You will have to prioritize your objectives.

and there is no way to legally repeal
the Act of 1871. The current regime
in Washington DC will never allow it
to happen.
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What you fail to acknowledge is that it doesn't matter who, or what, or anything. Giving up is the problem, not the solution. That is why I say you are the problem, because every time I show how to stop it, you find some other reason to deny it.

The President wants to be a coward, get rid of him. Congress the same way, get rid of them. Just because you refuse to see the light doesn't mean the world is dark.
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To defeat the corporations, it must be done legally.
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the corporations cannot operate without
source capital or bank loans

and where does that source capital come from ??

Vatican Bankers !!!

so you are going after #2
when you should be going after #1

this is why I said prioritize
your objectives.

if you dislodge the bankers,
the corporations will follow
due to lack of capital.

2 birds with 1 stone ;)

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