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General Ham - villain or victim ? YOU decide !

 
SuperNova1
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General Ham - villain or victim ? YOU decide !
Relieved of duty trying to do his duty. But Obama didn't want any distractions during his campaign.

Can not believe this debacle has not gotten more publicity, but then again what do we expect with

the media in the Presidents corner.... Sad ,sad,sad!!!!!



General Carter Ham relieved of duty as Commander of AFRICOM

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta announced on Sunday that General Carter Ham Commander of GOC Africa Command (Africom), headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany has been relieved of his assignment for refusing to obey orders not to assist the US personnel in Benghazi on the night of September 11. Army General David Rodriguez has been appointed by President Obama to replace him. U.S. Africa Command is one of six unified geographic commands within the Department of Defense unified command structure.

Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.

The Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, another official, and two CIA assets and former NAVY SEALS disregarded repeated orders to stand down, and rescued several people from the burning Consulate under heavy fire. They requested assistance at least three times and were summarily denied each time. They had AQ mortars painted with laser pointers and requested a C130 attack on the target or a missile strike with a F-22 or F-35. They had laid the groundwork for a military response that would create minimum collateral damage. In return for their heroism, their urgent requests were denied and they died defending America.

According to our sources, General Ham received copies of the e-mails that had been sent to the White House from Benghazi, requesting military support at the Consulate and the Annex after the attacks began. General Ham had a rapid response unit ready to deploy and communicated that to the Pentagon. He then received the order to stand down. His response to the Pentagon was essentially that he could not do that. Within a few minutes after sending that response, his second in command told General Ham that he was relieved of his command, effective immediately.

On Saturday, October 27, Panetta confirmed that General Ham had been relieved of his assignment.

[link to gerarddirect.com] n-benghazi/



I would say this is a good indicator for how the military views our commander in chief.

Won't have to recount the dangling chads on these votes.
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11/14/2012 12:28 AM

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I believe our victim is the general.
I feel like a victim after this election also.
You don't have a soul. You ARE a soul, you have a body...Not counting the one in the trunk .

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
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11/15/2012 09:05 AM
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Hey OP, I've been saying it for awhile now: General Ham is the KEY!

Notice how the MSM won't even mention his name? Anything BUT "General Ham". He knows. He tried. He was either relieved of duty as some reports state, or what?

Even those investigating this don't seem to want to mention General Ham.

I think he will blow the lid completely off this cover-up of dereliction of duty, trading weapons with our make-believe enemy, Al-CIAda, etc.

I want to hear from General Ham!
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11/15/2012 09:24 AM

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Stickyfoot,i think i stepped in something
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11/15/2012 09:58 AM
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The kettle just bigger and bigger. stir
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11/15/2012 10:17 AM
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I want to personally thank the Democrats for having the best scandals and keeping the news interesting.
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'President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.'

0'bama wasn't lying. His personnel are the one's who were attacking the consulate.
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I agree, I'd like to hear from him too. Unfortunately I have a feeling before anyone can spill the beans, they're going to end up like John P. Wheeler.

Remember him? He was the former Pentagon official and chemical weapons expert whose body was found in a D.C. dumpster.

[link to www.cnn.com]

[link to articles.nydailynews.com]

Apparently they FBI investigation into the Patraeus/Broadwell affair has been going on for 6 months but only yesterday did they raid her house and remove boxes of classified documents? Really? If they had any inclination that this was going on with the D/CIA, they would have swat teamed that house in June to protect unauthorized disclosure of classified material. This smells like a setup- they're shutting her down and putting her away by planting docs in her house.

Keep a close eye on the following people. They all know what really happened in the Benghazi massacre. If anything happens to any of the following people before they have a chance to leak out the truth, you know it's a government coverup:

General Patraeus
General Allen
General Ham
Rear Adm. Gaouette
Paula Broadwell
Jill Kelley(Khawam)
You only hear about SpecOps when they go wrong.
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11/15/2012 10:38 AM

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Relieved of duty trying to do his duty. But Obama didn't want any distractions during his campaign.

Can not believe this debacle has not gotten more publicity, but then again what do we expect with

the media in the Presidents corner.... Sad ,sad,sad!!!!!



General Carter Ham relieved of duty as Commander of AFRICOM

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta announced on Sunday that General Carter Ham Commander of GOC Africa Command (Africom), headquartered in Stuttgart, Germany has been relieved of his assignment for refusing to obey orders not to assist the US personnel in Benghazi on the night of September 11. Army General David Rodriguez has been appointed by President Obama to replace him. U.S. Africa Command is one of six unified geographic commands within the Department of Defense unified command structure.

Gen. Ham refused to take responsibility for the decision not to provide essential air coverage and other support for the beleaguered personnel at the Consulate. After the information was leaked last week that three urgent requests for support were denied to the Americans trapped in the Consulate and the Annex, President Barack Obama said on Sunday, “The minute I found out what was going on, I gave three very clear directives – Number 1, make sure that we are securing our personnel and doing whatever we need to.” According to the highly decorated, four-star General, Carter Ham, the President is lying.

The Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens, another official, and two CIA assets and former NAVY SEALS disregarded repeated orders to stand down, and rescued several people from the burning Consulate under heavy fire. They requested assistance at least three times and were summarily denied each time. They had AQ mortars painted with laser pointers and requested a C130 attack on the target or a missile strike with a F-22 or F-35. They had laid the groundwork for a military response that would create minimum collateral damage. In return for their heroism, their urgent requests were denied and they died defending America.

According to our sources, General Ham received copies of the e-mails that had been sent to the White House from Benghazi, requesting military support at the Consulate and the Annex after the attacks began. General Ham had a rapid response unit ready to deploy and communicated that to the Pentagon. He then received the order to stand down. His response to the Pentagon was essentially that he could not do that. Within a few minutes after sending that response, his second in command told General Ham that he was relieved of his command, effective immediately.

On Saturday, October 27, Panetta confirmed that General Ham had been relieved of his assignment.

[link to gerarddirect.com] n-benghazi/



I would say this is a good indicator for how the military views our commander in chief.

Won't have to recount the dangling chads on these votes.
link :
[link to gerarddirect.com]
 Quoting: SuperNova1


All he had to do was spill out the Blacktube Obama video
taking it by the ass from one of his security staff men at the white house poolside gim .

But no one in CIS have the balls to EXPLOIT obamas Gay porno movies ....

Many still in MIR files (including the one he is sucking Larry sinclair penis in the back seat of a white limmo.

Thoose that seek shall find ....
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I agree, I'd like to hear from him too. Unfortunately I have a feeling before anyone can spill the beans, they're going to end up like John P. Wheeler.

Remember him? He was the former Pentagon official and chemical weapons expert whose body was found in a D.C. dumpster.

[link to www.cnn.com]

[link to articles.nydailynews.com]

Apparently they FBI investigation into the Patraeus/Broadwell affair has been going on for 6 months but only yesterday did they raid her house and remove boxes of classified documents? Really?
If they had any inclination that this was going on with the D/CIA, they would have swat teamed that house in June to protect unauthorized disclosure of classified material. This smells like a setup- they're shutting her down and putting her away by planting docs in her house.

Keep a close eye on the following people. They all know what really happened in the Benghazi massacre. If anything happens to any of the following people before they have a chance to leak out the truth, you know it's a government coverup:

General Patraeus
General Allen
General Ham
Rear Adm. Gaouette
Paula Broadwell
Jill Kelley(Khawam)
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A very good point!
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I wonder how these events will affect our military's top leaders as they begin to question our commander in chief's loyalties.The media manipulation is scary.
You don't have a soul. You ARE a soul, you have a body...Not counting the one in the trunk .

Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
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