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My main issue with it being a cme is solar wind speed is still very low and plasma density is too...
 Quoting: TRIXER


Not huge, but each elevated. I think the real concern is the proton count. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486


Seriously. It is not from the sun...
 Quoting: TRIXER


What do you think it's from then? And I'm not being douchey, I'm being serious. Because I agree with you that based on the available information the recent solar weather shouldn't be impacting us to this degree...
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My main issue with it being a cme is solar wind speed is still very low and plasma density is too...
 Quoting: TRIXER


Not huge, but each elevated. I think the real concern is the proton count. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486


Seriously. It is not from the sun...
 Quoting: TRIXER


It's from betelgeuse.
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11/14/2012 01:33 AM
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Too cloudy here to see anything... :(
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Holy shit, I thought I just smoked too much weed!

The K-index quantifies disturbances in the horizontal component of earth's magnetic field with an integer in the range 0-9 with 1 being calm and 5 or more indicating a geomagnetic storm. It is derived from the maximum fluctuations of horizontal components observed on a magnetometer during a three-hour interval. The label 'K' comes from the German word 'Kennziffer' meaning 'characteristic digit.' The K-index was introduced by Julius Bartels in 1938.
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11/14/2012 01:41 AM
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There are 8 Sun Spots showing. There are two of them that are active right now. We ar currently under a geomagnatic storm from an m class flare. More could be in the ofting.

Go to Spaceweather.com for all the details. They even have an Auora map. Put it into your favorites and go see it everyday then maybe just maybe you won't have to wonderor ask whats going on anymore. You would no or is that to difficult to ask or to do. I find it amazing with all the information on the Internet how ignorant some of you are about things like this. Its not a complicated site. Ignorance is not bliss and it beats coming here and ending up getting misinformed by someone who's guessing.
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Looks like the aurora has retreated into Canada right now. But it can still have sudden impulse at any time.
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Please break the significance of this info down to an elementary level with much appreciation if you can.
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My main issue with it being a cme is solar wind speed is still very low and plasma density is too...
 Quoting: TRIXER


Not huge, but each elevated. I think the real concern is the proton count. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486


So how do you know or when would you know facts re the proton count???
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162346


Here is the current proton flux. It has calmed down a bit. [link to solarham.net]
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Thanks. And the point is, electronics can take elevated amounts of electrons, but too many protons boils the stew.
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11/14/2012 01:49 AM
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This link is cool...

[link to iswa.ccmc.gsfc.nasa.gov]
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11/14/2012 01:51 AM
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[link to astronomynorth.com] Interesting site
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Is this link the one to use?, I'm sure I got it from being on GLP.

[link to solarimg.org]
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Multiple CME's. Bz index WIDE open...

[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#




Sorry for off topic but that is a nice bass! what is that 5 or 6 lbs? good job!
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Please break the significance of this info down to an elementary level with much appreciation if you can.
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This may sum it up:

Thanks. And the point is, electronics can take elevated amounts of electrons, but too many protons boils the stew.
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But the question remains whether the current flux is from the recent solar activity. Or has that been confidently answered in the affirmative?
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Re: We are getting hammered by something...
My main issue with it being a cme is solar wind speed is still very low and plasma density is too...
 Quoting: TRIXER


Not huge, but each elevated. I think the real concern is the proton count. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486


Seriously. It is not from the sun...
 Quoting: TRIXER


What do you think it's from then? And I'm not being douchey, I'm being serious. Because I agree with you that based on the available information the recent solar weather shouldn't be impacting us to this degree...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162346


I am not sure yet.

[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]

As you can see from this chart the bz was way positive. Then turned negative around 21:00.

Spaceweather.com is saying we are flying through a cme that just passed... I don't know. We are not getting HIT with cme. Enlil does not really support that as well. Neutrons are up slightly, so ena ribbon?

But the chart above also shows cosmic ray density dropped sharply.

I would check the gamma ray site, but it uses silverlight, and will not load on my system. Here is the link...
[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
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My main issue with it being a cme is solar wind speed is still very low and plasma density is too...
 Quoting: TRIXER


Not huge, but each elevated. I think the real concern is the proton count. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486


Seriously. It is not from the sun...
 Quoting: TRIXER


It's from betelgeuse.
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I cannot see orion due to the clouds, but that would be sweet. 500 ly from earth.
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11/14/2012 01:57 AM
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Stepped outside and the cloudy sky was a very beautiful shade of light pink. Its pitch black where I am this was looking to the North.

Peace
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Where?
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Southeast WA
 Quoting: AwakenedDude



NE WA sky pink also
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Multiple CME's. Bz index WIDE open...

[link to www.solarham.net]
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#




Sorry for off topic but that is a nice bass! what is that 5 or 6 lbs? good job!
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Only 3. He has a big ass head but no meat in him.
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11/14/2012 01:59 AM
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Precursors to the December 1811 New Madrid Earthquake...


Earthquakes

Ashville, N.C., December 19 [1811]

To the Editors of the Raleigh Star.

Gentlemen, - I take the liberty to transmit the following account of an earthquake, which happened on the night between the 15th and 16th instant. For several nights previous, the [1]Aurora Borealis brilliantly illuminated the the sky with its trembling coruscations; [2] the late appearance of a splendid comet, and the [3]blondlike colour of the sun for several days, had alarmed a great many superstitious people. They taled of war, and when the news of governor Harrison’s dear bought victory arrived, it brought to their recollection all those appearances, which are still believed (as these are now) to have been the awful precuriers of that bloody war, by which we gained our independence.


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[4] On September 17, 1811 there was another solar eclipse—which, again, was predicted by The Prophet ["Tecumseh was a Shawnee Indian leader whose name meant “Shooting Star” or “He who walks across the sky.”].
[link to www.lewisandclarktravel.com]

1) aurora borealis....check
2) splendid comet...(missing- not due until Nov 2013)
3) blondlike color of the sun....check
4) solar eclipse...check

coinkydinks?
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I had the loudest ear ring.
Then here is you thread I thought geeze maybe the ear ring comes from the sun

Who knows, I do know every time I have an ear ring a big EQ happens within a few days.
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11/14/2012 02:04 AM
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Please break the significance of this info down to an elementary level with much appreciation if you can.
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Spaceweather.com. It doesn't get much easier. Read and learn
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Where?
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


Southeast WA
 Quoting: AwakenedDude


Eugene Oregon here..... I swear I saw Aurora towards the west whilst driving to a HS event for mah kid... :)
 Quoting: Scarbedazzles


It's possible. Here you go....


[link to www.swpc.noaa.gov]
 Quoting: #Geomagnetic_Storm#


why spanks!!! ya gotta love a guy who lives in Cali and can still find it prudent to use the word....."hence" roflmao

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Last gamma ray burst: Nov 8th. 20121108a

From constellation Auriga. No information is there for it.
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My main issue with it being a cme is solar wind speed is still very low and plasma density is too...
 Quoting: TRIXER


Not huge, but each elevated. I think the real concern is the proton count. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486


Seriously. It is not from the sun...
 Quoting: TRIXER


It's from betelgeuse.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 13216396


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Not huge, but each elevated. I think the real concern is the proton count. Seriously.
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 1347486


Seriously. It is not from the sun...
 Quoting: TRIXER


What do you think it's from then? And I'm not being douchey, I'm being serious. Because I agree with you that based on the available information the recent solar weather shouldn't be impacting us to this degree...
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 27162346


I am not sure yet.

[link to neutronm.bartol.udel.edu]

As you can see from this chart the bz was way positive. Then turned negative around 21:00.

Spaceweather.com is saying we are flying through a cme that just passed... I don't know. We are not getting HIT with cme. Enlil does not really support that as well. Neutrons are up slightly, so ena ribbon?

But the chart above also shows cosmic ray density dropped sharply.

I would check the gamma ray site, but it uses silverlight, and will not load on my system. Here is the link...
[link to grb.sonoma.edu]
 Quoting: TRIXER


SOHO's been sort of strange lately imo but then again I haven't been following it real close.

earlier in the thread I posted a video from Stereo, I think, via otraLoly that showed several very large CME's
[link to www.youtube.com]

personally that explains the 'conundrum' as far as I'm concerned

btw..saw nothing in the way of an Aurora while I was out but then again it is mostly overcast
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Had these 2 things happen in NC
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11/14/2012 02:16 AM
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Did I not do it properly? Sorry. Just reporting what I see.
 Quoting: TRIXER


You were absolutely right to post it. Not everyone here follows that thread. Sometimes people who otherwise aren't interested in solar activity need to be made aware of what's happening.

Great find and glad you're sharing with us Trixer.

hf
 Quoting: Serendipitous


Ya, thanks OP, I better go eat and jerk off for the last time just in case!
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Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Power grid fluctuations can occur. High-latitude power systems may experience voltage alarms.
Spacecraft - Satellite orientation irregularities may occur; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites is possible.
Radio - HF (high frequency) radio propagation can fade at higher latitudes.
Aurora - Aurora may be seen as low as New York to Wisconsin to Washington state.

Yesterday Bz was +10 pointing straight up
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Yup. And the kp doubled to six. It was fast. I can feel it.
 Quoting: TRIXER


sir, step away from the antenna. now do it
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Please break the significance of this info down to an elementary level with much appreciation if you can.
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Spaceweather.com. It doesn't get much easier. Read and learn
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By the time someone learns everything they see there we'll be in the next solar minimum! Get off your high horse.
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Please break the significance of this info down to an elementary level with much appreciation if you can.
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In short, we are having a geo magnetic storm. Can cause troubles with electrical system. Power, satellites, earthquakes. You may feel some ringing or buzzing in your head.

Story we are going with for now till the experts wake up and tell us...

The sun shot off several m class flares that kinda rippled together and went past us yesterday. This event looks like we (earth) are flying through that path of charged particles which is inducting into the earths magnetic field.

What does it all mean? Keep your eyes open. Something is happening. The end result may be nothing more that lights in the sky. Just keep your eyes open.
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Potential Impacts: Area of impact primarily poleward of 55 degrees Geomagnetic Latitude.
Induced Currents - Power grid fluctuations can occur. High-latitude power systems may experience voltage alarms.
Spacecraft - Satellite orientation irregularities may occur; increased drag on low Earth-orbit satellites is possible.
Radio - HF (high frequency) radio propagation can fade at higher latitudes.
Aurora - Aurora may be seen as low as New York to Wisconsin to Washington state.

Yesterday Bz was +10 pointing straight up
 Quoting: Anonymous Coward 16520598


Yup. And the kp doubled to six. It was fast. I can feel it.
 Quoting: TRIXER


sir, step away from the antenna. now do it
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I put on my foil hat. I will be fine.

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